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MSI [msi.com] has MPG Z690 Edge WiFi DDR4 + 1TB SSD + 32GB DDR4 3200 + MAG A750GL PCIE5 + MPG Sekira 500P Case on sale for $399.99. Shipping is free.

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  • MSI MPG Z690 Edge WiFi DDR4 Gaming Motherboard
  • 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200 Desktop Memory
  • MPG Sekira 500P Mid-Tower Gaming Case
  • 750W MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
  • 1TB MSI Spatium M371 PCIe Gen 3 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
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12-20-2023 at 03:38 PM.

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12-20-2023 at 03:38 PM.
This doesn't seem like that great of a deal.

The motherboard is a midrange last gen ddr4 lga 1700 board (admittedly the z790 chipset is only a marginal improvement). It does have some nice features, such as a pcie gen 5 x16 primary slot (all other pcie slots are gen 3), four gen 4 m.2 slots, and a high end audio chip. However, other features are somewhat outdated, and you can get a ddr5 z690 motherboard of relatively comparable quality for around $130 on a good sale. Getting a ddr4 board for a new intel build makes absolutely no sense, especially considering how cheap ddr5 has gotten. Overall, the motherboard is worth no more than $130, and that's assuming you're willing to neuter your new build on a dead end platform by using ddr4.
Here's a link to the motherboard spec page: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/M...cification
And here's a link to hardware unboxed comparing ddr4 to ddr5 in gaming performance, since I know people will come in here and say there's no point in going ddr5 for a new build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYqpr4Xpg6I

The 1tb msi spatium m371 ssd is absolute bottom tier, it's pcie gen3, uses low quality qlc nand flash (poor speed and reliability, extremely low endurance), has no dram, and uses an old low performance gen 3 controller. There are $35 1tb ssd options (such as the intel 670p or preferably the solidigm p41 plus) available that will absolutely crush this drive in terms of both reliability and performance. Realistically speaking the ssd is worth less than $30.

No additional information (such as timings or model) is given about the ram, but 32gb of decent quality ddr4 3200 goes for $55 or less. If this is cl22 or worse there have been sales on comparable ram as low as $46.

The msi mag A750GL power supply is on sale from multiple retailers at $80. I can't find any professional reviews of this 750w version, but the 850w version shows competent but not exceptional performance. Realistically speaking the power supply is probably worth around $75. Here's a review of the 850w version: https://hwbusters.com/psus/msi-ma...su-review/

The MPG Sekira 500P case has excellent aesthetics, comes with several fans, provides decent cable management, and is of overall good quality. However, reviews indicate the actual airflow and acoustic performance are somewhat low in it's pricerange compared to other options. It's currently on sale from multiple retailers for $110, but disregarding aesthetics there are fairly competitive options that occasionally go on sale around $80.

Tallying up the value for the components:
$130 motherboard (not desirable due to being ddr4)
$30 ssd (low quality and poor value, extremely low endurance, not desirable as a boot drive or for anything except static data storage)
$55 ram (midrange ddr4, once again not desirable, $55 is assuming it's got good timings)
$75 psu (might as well spend a bit more to get a 1000w for a new build)
$100 case (assuming a premium for aesthetics and number of fans included, but if functionality is your primary concern you can get $80 cases with better airflow)

Total value is somewhere around $390 (lower than the $400 cost of this bundle), and you're making tons of compromises. If you wait for good sales, for the same $400 you could build a system with: a similar quality ddr5 motherboard, a significantly better ssd, decent quality ddr5, a similar psu, and a cheaper but functionally similar or superior case. Spending a bit more could get you a good 1000w+ psu (highly recommended for a new build) and high end ddr5. Also, if you live near a Microcenter, when they put their component bundles on sale they're a far better value than this. At $400 this really isn't a good deal.

Edit: A certain individual in this thread has incorrectly claimed multiple times that the msi spatium m371 is a tlc drive rather than a qlc drive. If you have any doubts please refer to the two replies I have given them in this thread, especially this second one: https://slickdeals.net/f/17181775-mpg-z690-edge-wifi-ddr4-1tb-32gb-ddr4-3200-mag-a750gl-pcie5-mpg-sekira-500p-case-400-free-shipping?p=168260989#post168260989
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12-20-2023 at 04:38 PM.
12-20-2023 at 04:38 PM.
Quote from BeigeRoad455 :
This doesn't seem like that great of a deal.

The motherboard is a midrange last gen ddr4 lga 1700 board (admittedly the z790 chipset is only a marginal improvement). It does have some nice features, such as a pcie gen 5 x16 primary slot (all other pcie slots are gen 3), four gen 4 m.2 slots, and a high end audio chip. However, other features are somewhat outdated, and you can get a ddr5 z690 motherboard of relatively comparable quality for around $130 on a good sale. Getting a ddr4 board for a new intel build makes absolutely no sense, especially considering how cheap ddr5 has gotten. Overall, the motherboard is worth no more than $130, and that's assuming you're willing to neuter your new build on a dead end platform by using ddr4.
Here's a link to the motherboard spec page: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/M...cification [msi.com]
And here's a link to hardware unboxed comparing ddr4 to ddr5 in gaming performance, since I know people will come in here and say there's no point in going ddr5 for a new build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYqpr4Xpg6I

The 1tb msi spatium m371 ssd is absolute bottom tier, it's pcie gen3, uses low quality qlc nand flash (poor speed and reliability, extremely low endurance), has no dram, and uses an old low performance gen 3 controller. There are $35 1tb ssd options (such as the intel 670p or preferably the solidigm p41 plus) available that will absolutely crush this drive in terms of both reliability and performance. Realistically speaking the ssd is worth less than $30.

No additional information (such as timings or model) is given about the ram, but 32gb of decent quality ddr4 3200 goes for $55 or less. If this is cl22 or worse there have been sales on comparable ram as low as $46.

The msi mag A750GL power supply is on sale from multiple retailers at $80. I can't find any professional reviews of this 750w version, but the 850w version shows competent but not exceptional performance. Realistically speaking the power supply is probably worth around $75. Here's a review of the 850w version: https://hwbusters.com/psus/msi-ma...su-review/ [hwbusters.com]

The MPG Sekira 500P case has excellent aesthetics, comes with several fans, provides decent cable management, and is of overall good quality. However, reviews indicate the actual airflow and acoustic performance are somewhat low in it's pricerange compared to other options. It's currently on sale from multiple retailers for $110, but disregarding aesthetics there are fairly competitive options that occasionally go on sale around $80.

Tallying up the value for the components:
$130 motherboard (not desirable due to being ddr4)
$30 ssd (low quality and poor value, extremely low endurance, not desirable as a boot drive or for anything except static data storage)
$55 ram (midrange ddr4, once again not desirable, $55 is assuming it's got good timings)
$75 psu (might as well spend a bit more to get a 1000w for a new build)
$100 case (assuming a premium for aesthetics and number of fans included, but if functionality is your primary concern you can get $80 cases with better airflow)

Total value is somewhere around $390 (lower than the $400 cost of this bundle), and you're making tons of compromises. If you wait for good sales, for the same $400 you could build a system with: a similar quality ddr5 motherboard, a significantly better ssd, decent quality ddr5, a similar psu, and a cheaper but functionally similar or superior case. Spending a bit more could get you a good 1000w+ psu (highly recommended for a new build) and high end ddr5. Also, if you live near a Microcenter, when they put their component bundles on sale they're a far better value than this. At $400 this really isn't a good deal.
can you please suggest a deal for me, just need one for large excel data sets and support for 2 4k displays. you seem to know what you are talking about
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Tsumi
12-21-2023 at 12:12 AM.
12-21-2023 at 12:12 AM.
Quote from TheFloppyTaco :
can you please suggest a deal for me, just need one for large excel data sets and support for 2 4k displays. you seem to know what you are talking about
Since you're not gaming, any prebuilt computer or laptop with dual DisplayPort/HDMI (or 1 DisplayPort + 1 HDMI) will work. One of these would work quite well: https://slickdeals.net/f/17165200-minisforum-um690s-mini-pc-barebone-ryzen-9-6900hx-2xddr5-1x-m-2-22...

Check how much RAM you're using when you have your large Excel sheets open to see how much you actually need. You can probably get away with 32 gb RAM.
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12-21-2023 at 01:53 AM.
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Not a deal.
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12-21-2023 at 05:37 AM.
12-21-2023 at 05:37 AM.
Back in my day barebone kits came with a CPU dammit!
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12-21-2023 at 06:27 AM.
12-21-2023 at 06:27 AM.
Here is a sample build that I did that is comparable in specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pcPyHG [pcpartpicker.com]

My build is $25 cheaper, has faster ram with ARGB, a Gen 4 SSD that is TLC (not QLC 3.0), better case IMO (definitely better cooling), and probably the same (or similar PSU). You could use the extra $25 to upgrade a specific part to your tastes.


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12-21-2023 at 06:44 AM.
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Every platform is a dead end.
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12-21-2023 at 10:06 AM.

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Quote from TheFloppyTaco :
can you please suggest a deal for me, just need one for large excel data sets and support for 2 4k displays. you seem to know what you are talking about

If that's all you're using it for you could just use a cheap mini pc... Check out the 5500u/5560u/5600u beelinks on Amazon. There's usually one just over $200 with a coupon, you just need to find the right listing because they have a bunch of similar / duplicate listings.
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12-21-2023 at 10:14 AM.
12-21-2023 at 10:14 AM.
Quote from Tsumi :
Since you're not gaming, any prebuilt computer or laptop with dual DisplayPort/HDMI (or 1 DisplayPort + 1 HDMI) will work. One of these would work quite well: https://slickdeals.net/f/17165200-minisforum-um690s-mini-pc-barebone-ryzen-9-6900hx-2xddr5-1x-m-2-22...

Check how much RAM you're using when you have your large Excel sheets open to see how much you actually need. You can probably get away with 32 gb RAM.

If they really only care about Excel this is overkill. Add in 32gb of ddr5 ram and storage and they're looking at close to $500. Unless we're talking truly massive datasets I think 16gb would be plenty. If the spreadsheets are hundred of thousands of lines then 32gb might be warranted.
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12-21-2023 at 12:07 PM.
12-21-2023 at 12:07 PM.
Quote from BeigeRoad455 :
This doesn't seem like that great of a deal.

The motherboard is a midrange last gen ddr4 lga 1700 board (admittedly the z790 chipset is only a marginal improvement). It does have some nice features, such as a pcie gen 5 x16 primary slot (all other pcie slots are gen 3), four gen 4 m.2 slots, and a high end audio chip. However, other features are somewhat outdated, and you can get a ddr5 z690 motherboard of relatively comparable quality for around $130 on a good sale. Getting a ddr4 board for a new intel build makes absolutely no sense, especially considering how cheap ddr5 has gotten. Overall, the motherboard is worth no more than $130, and that's assuming you're willing to neuter your new build on a dead end platform by using ddr4.
Here's a link to the motherboard spec page: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/M...cification [msi.com]
And here's a link to hardware unboxed comparing ddr4 to ddr5 in gaming performance, since I know people will come in here and say there's no point in going ddr5 for a new build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYqpr4Xpg6I

The 1tb msi spatium m371 ssd is absolute bottom tier, it's pcie gen3, uses low quality qlc nand flash (poor speed and reliability, extremely low endurance), has no dram, and uses an old low performance gen 3 controller. There are $35 1tb ssd options (such as the intel 670p or preferably the solidigm p41 plus) available that will absolutely crush this drive in terms of both reliability and performance. Realistically speaking the ssd is worth less than $30.

No additional information (such as timings or model) is given about the ram, but 32gb of decent quality ddr4 3200 goes for $55 or less. If this is cl22 or worse there have been sales on comparable ram as low as $46.

The msi mag A750GL power supply is on sale from multiple retailers at $80. I can't find any professional reviews of this 750w version, but the 850w version shows competent but not exceptional performance. Realistically speaking the power supply is probably worth around $75. Here's a review of the 850w version: https://hwbusters.com/psus/msi-ma...su-review/ [hwbusters.com]

The MPG Sekira 500P case has excellent aesthetics, comes with several fans, provides decent cable management, and is of overall good quality. However, reviews indicate the actual airflow and acoustic performance are somewhat low in it's pricerange compared to other options. It's currently on sale from multiple retailers for $110, but disregarding aesthetics there are fairly competitive options that occasionally go on sale around $80.

Tallying up the value for the components:
$130 motherboard (not desirable due to being ddr4)
$30 ssd (low quality and poor value, extremely low endurance, not desirable as a boot drive or for anything except static data storage)
$55 ram (midrange ddr4, once again not desirable, $55 is assuming it's got good timings)
$75 psu (might as well spend a bit more to get a 1000w for a new build)
$100 case (assuming a premium for aesthetics and number of fans included, but if functionality is your primary concern you can get $80 cases with better airflow)

Total value is somewhere around $390 (lower than the $400 cost of this bundle), and you're making tons of compromises. If you wait for good sales, for the same $400 you could build a system with: a similar quality ddr5 motherboard, a significantly better ssd, decent quality ddr5, a similar psu, and a cheaper but functionally similar or superior case. Spending a bit more could get you a good 1000w+ psu (highly recommended for a new build) and high end ddr5. Also, if you live near a Microcenter, when they put their component bundles on sale they're a far better value than this. At $400 this really isn't a good deal.
The MSI SSD uses TLC from Toshiba. It is not a cheap QLC NAND flash device like you stated. The controller does not support QLC. See the link below.

https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-s...-2-tb.d570
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12-21-2023 at 12:44 PM.
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No CPU what's this garbage?
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12-21-2023 at 04:56 PM.
12-21-2023 at 04:56 PM.
Any good server deals to build a box to do AI processing? (Like add a Nvidia video card to do some that kinda work). I just did an intro AI course but has to use my CPU instead of GPU to do the coursework
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12-21-2023 at 06:09 PM.
12-21-2023 at 06:09 PM.
Quote from armyofda12mnkeys :
Any good server deals to build a box to do AI processing? (Like add a Nvidia video card to do some that kinda work). I just did an intro AI course but has to use my CPU instead of GPU to do the coursework

Very expensive proposition...you need a card with alot of video memory, especially if you're working with LLMs. This doesn't even include a dedicated card...the 4070ti with 16gb is a good modern solution...or a used 3090.
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