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expiredBabyBubba posted Dec 28, 2023 11:59 AM

MSI AEGIS ZS Desktop (Reconditioned): Ryzen 7 5800X, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD

+ Free S/H for Prime Members

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Computers.Woot has MSI AEGIS ZS Desktop (Reconditioned, 5DS-263US) on sale for $799.99. Shipping is free for Amazon Prime Members (must login with your Amazon account and select a shipping address in order for Woot to apply free shipping) or is otherwise $6 per order.

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Specs (source):
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8C/16T 3.8-4.7 GHz 32MB Cache
  • 16GB DDR4 (2 x 8GB) RAM
  • 1TB M.2 NVMe Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • WiFi 5 (802.11ac) Dual Band Wireless-AC 9462 1x1 802.11ac (433 Mbps)
  • Windows 11 Home
  • Ports:
    • Front:
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-C
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-A
    • Rear:
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-A
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-A
      • 4x USB 2.0

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  • About Factory Reconditioned Condition:
    • An Item that was returned, inspected and returned to fully working condition by the original manufacturer or certified partner
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Computers.Woot has MSI AEGIS ZS Desktop (Reconditioned, 5DS-263US) on sale for $799.99. Shipping is free for Amazon Prime Members (must login with your Amazon account and select a shipping address in order for Woot to apply free shipping) or is otherwise $6 per order.

Thanks community member BabyBubba for sharing this deal

Specs (source):
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8C/16T 3.8-4.7 GHz 32MB Cache
  • 16GB DDR4 (2 x 8GB) RAM
  • 1TB M.2 NVMe Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • WiFi 5 (802.11ac) Dual Band Wireless-AC 9462 1x1 802.11ac (433 Mbps)
  • Windows 11 Home
  • Ports:
    • Front:
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-C
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-A
    • Rear:
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-A
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type-A
      • 4x USB 2.0

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About Factory Reconditioned Condition:
    • An Item that was returned, inspected and returned to fully working condition by the original manufacturer or certified partner
  • Warranty:
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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BabyBubba
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Cool. Go ahead and link the better deal you've found that's in the race, so to speak.
WeatherBono
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Just FYI, I just built this machine on PCPartsPicker for $986
BabyBubba
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No offense intended. But I went back a year and found exactly zero Ryzen 7 5800X desktops posted for less than $1000. So this is literally the best price ever posted for this computer, by hundreds of dollars. To say it's not in the race is a bit off the mark, in my opinion. It's not the latest and greatest, but it's also not 2 grand.

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Dec 28, 2023 09:43 PM
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MatthewV1616Dec 28, 2023 09:43 PM
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Quote from BabyBubba :
There are lots of opinions in these comments sections, some well informed and others shooting from the hip. A couple of great resources for factual data on tech like this are YouTube and Amazon reviews, where actual owners discuss their ownership experience, upgrades, performance, and gripes. It's usually also a great opportunity to see interior layout, like RAM slots and SATA/M.2 ports available, hard drive expansion bays, PCIe slots, etc. Some of the tech channels do more in-depth testing and benchmarking with standard programs and while gaming. Sort of gives you an idea of what to expect prior to the cash outlay of a purchase. Since a lot of any desktop's performance is driven by the CPU, there are also CPU benchmarking and comparison websites with in-depth information, as well as GPU data. You probably already know most of what I'm saying here, but if it's posted publicly like this it might help someone make a better informed decision, rather than possibly being misled by opinions that aren't based on facts.
No, actually, this is really helpful. Trying to buy PC parts is so overwhelming the INSTANT I go to the comments section. Oh this looks like a nice card...."Are you kidding you can get 15% more CAFR out of a 2X overdrive Nvidia as long, of course, that you have DDR4 support on the bios without overlooking THR capabilities. Long story short, this card sucks, you suck, and you should feel bad."
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Quote from MatthewV1616 :
No, actually, this is really helpful. Trying to buy PC parts is so overwhelming the INSTANT I go to the comments section. Oh this looks like a nice card...."Are you kidding you can get 15% more CAFR out of a 2X overdrive Nvidia as long, of course, that you have DDR4 support on the bios without overlooking THR capabilities. Long story short, this card sucks, you suck, and you should feel bad."
You have to have thick skin around here. And the last part of your reply made me laugh; I've seen it too many times. I usually read the comments on my deal posts, and I keep my thoughts to myself more often than not. Some people want to argue about the most insignificant things, and bickering at that level serves no purpose. If I posted that they're giving away new Ferraris, someone would whine about having to pay for insurance. At some point it becomes just noise that you try to ignore.
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BabyBubbaDec 28, 2023 11:25 PM
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Quote from Austang :
That assumes someone would want specifically a 5800x CPU. And if you are buying a 5800x prebuilt you probably don't care about what CPU specifically you are getting so a direct comparison is kinda a moot point. Similarly performing computers or betters computers have been at this same price as either new or with a better warranty.

Any pre-built in this performance to cost ratio should at least have DDR5 so you can have upgrade options, this one is a dead-end since the 5800x is the best CPU for that socket short of the 5800x3d

It's not a bad deal at all. It just is not a great deal. It's Meh (pun not intended).
Now we are closer to agreement on your points. DDR5 and a newer socket/CPU are definitely preferable, but those $$$$ add up quick in that space. I just post the low prices I see on this or that. You all get to decide if it's right for you. Somewhere out there is a guy who has decided that this is the one he wants, and is waiting for a good price to come along. Prices for this MSI elsewhere can easily leave you several hundred dollars lighter in the wallet.

Here's an example. Same desktop with 1TB SSD new at Best Buy is on clearance for $1274.99:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-...Id=6489656

Funny thing is, the 5600X posted at the same time, which is measurably less impressive, went Frontpage at $100 less. You never know what people are going to want or like.
Last edited by BabyBubba December 28, 2023 at 03:38 PM.
Dec 29, 2023 12:52 AM
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hmxDec 29, 2023 12:52 AM
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5800 or ~7600. Pcie 4 or 5. Ddr4 or 5. Doesn't really matter much, at least in the gaming space. Not low enough to be considered for the poors, not anywhere near a master race build, not enough of a delta for anyone to brag about. There hasn't been enough of a leap in hardware and developers aren't being hindered on that side because they're developing primarily for weaker console hardware anyway.

And what kind of ddr5 amd refurb deal would exist in 2023 anyway.
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DavidB1977Dec 29, 2023 01:44 AM
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Quote from Austang :
Way too high of prices for a DDR4 refurb with these specs. If it was at least a DDR5 board we could enter the race.
This is also available for $100 less with woot unless I'm missing something in the specs
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Can I play mine sweep with this?
Of course it will run that, Mine Sweeper on the other hand might be too hard on the system. Especially if Clippy is running.
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WeatherBonoDec 29, 2023 06:30 AM
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Quote from BabyBubba :
Literally, or just as an experiment to identify component cost?
I did not actually purchase the parts lol, but was curious so I was able to find all of the correct MSI components on there.
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antipkinDec 29, 2023 10:50 PM
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Quote from deelseaker :
Graphics-wise, this is the RTX 4060 Ti level performance. CPU-wise, it's close to i5-13400F. Funny that your other deal is getting more attention. I would've sprung the extra $100 to get this: The better CPU and the bigger SSD seem to be worth it.
Hi, looks like the was a link to "this: ", but maybe it was removed? I would like to see this other system for $100 more that was mentioned. TY
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Hi, looks like the was a link to "this: ", but maybe it was removed? I would like to see this other system for $100 more that was mentioned. TY
This R7 5800X is the one that's $100 more. The other one was $699 and an R5 5600X in basically the same desktop. It's now sold out. Link:

https://slickdeals.net/f/17197735-reconditioned-msi-aegis-zs-desktop-ryzen-5-5600x-rx-6700-xt-16gb-ram-500gb-ssd-700-free-shipping-w-amazon-prime
Dec 30, 2023 01:19 AM
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GencomDec 30, 2023 01:19 AM
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I bought one of these Aegis models from woot, not this particular one ( i7 12 series, rtx 3080 ) and these things run really hot, even with the AIO cooler this model shown would be even worse because the intake on front is just a little sliver. However amd might run much cooler than nvidia graphics... I have never owned one so i cant say. Personally I think its just a badly designed case for airflow.
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PhatAzzDec 31, 2023 07:34 PM
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Quote from Austang :
That assumes someone would want specifically a 5800x CPU. And if you are buying a 5800x prebuilt you probably don't care about what CPU specifically you are getting so a direct comparison is kinda a moot point. Similarly performing computers or betters computers have been at this same price as either new or with a better warranty.

Any pre-built in this performance to cost ratio should at least have DDR5 so you can have upgrade options, this one is a dead-end since the 5800x is the best CPU for that socket short of the 5800x3d

It's not a bad deal at all. It just is not a great deal. It's Meh (pun not intended).
I generally don't upgrade these badboys.

By the time you're at the upgrade pathway, for 800 dollars, are you going to just put a nice GPU? I generally just buy the next good deal for the cpu/gpu performance. Bottlenecks will always be there, so upgrading one or the other tends to be not helpful.

I generally buy midrange pcs for my kids and forget about them for 4-6 years and just buy a new one at 4-6 years. My kids are now in high school got walmart 4060 deal for 699.

If I didn't get that, I would have got these - specifically because I plan not to upgrade it. They had their first mid level pcs in 4-5th grade. and now they are 10-11th. They were were on 4770 and 6600k, with 1070 / 1070ti.
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BraveStew3923Dec 31, 2023 08:32 PM
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Are there 4 ram slots on this? Also, is there a second m.2 slot to add an extra ssd?
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royoneJan 02, 2024 05:03 PM
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Quote from deelseaker :
Graphics-wise, this is the RTX 4060 Ti level performance. CPU-wise, it's close to i5-13400F. Funny that your other deal is getting more attention. I would've sprung the extra $100 to get this: The better CPU and the bigger SSD seem to be worth it.
Just googled this "rx 6700 xt equivalent to nvidia" and seems this one closes to RTX 3060 only... (no Ti)
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Bouncy_FurbalJan 02, 2024 05:31 PM
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Quote from royone :
Just googled this "rx 6700 xt equivalent to nvidia" and seems this one closes to RTX 3060 only... (no Ti)
6700xt is near/at 3070 performance if not using ray tracing, def above the 3060/ti in most games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...L3E&t=243s
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