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Imagine a 150 inch TV(how many pounds ?) vs a 10 pound projector that could project anywhere.

Close. https://youtu.be/d8dlz5LWq3E?si=bYxFxZM7s8l5KHZY

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FWIW I prefer a projector to having a large black rectangle on my wall when not watching.

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Close. https://youtu.be/d8dlz5LWq3E?si=bYxFxZM7s8l5KHZY

Yea, and soon we will have homes with helipads to take delivery of 150 inch utopian TVs

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They call it "True 4k" super annoying cause it's not. It's more pixel shifting bs. Not a knock on op, just the marketing crap

4K UHD (3840 x 2160) resolution from pixel shifting with TI's .47-inch chip; supports HDR10 and HLG

But it is 4K right? All of the pixels are there. The more apt comparison is whether you want a low-mid range 4k TV or a mid-high range 1080p TV. It's image quality that takes a hit when they do a 4-way pixel shift.

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would rather spend the same money on 85 inch TV

I would take 135" over oled 85" any day. And I would definitely splurge the cash for a 120"+ OLED. I'll admit that tge color on my projector is crap compared to regular TV. However, I find no enjoyment in watching any movies with a screen less than 120", the sense of immersion is very important to me. To each their own, we have different priority in terms of leisure activities.

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Dunno about this one, but for a while there was a pseudo 4K going around where they took a 1080p image and shifted the pixels around to claim a 4K image. A lot of people seem to be OK with 1080p vs 4K (hard to tell the difference unless up close) with HDR being valued as a more desirable feature.

It is 2 1080P chips displaying over each other to create a "4K" image, aka pixel shifting.

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And how much for a TV that is 150 inch size? Sorry, I differ on the market opinion, especially when there a lot of people like me, who are all into projectors for life.

I have a Sony native 4k projector and I will watch my 77 inch oled over it any day. Picture quality trumps immersive experience any day. You will get to a point in size where it will make you dizzy depending on how close you are. Sure you can sit farther away but then what's the point? Might as well sit closer to a smaller tv. And if you are going to bring up price, how much do you think a projector that will actually rival the pq of a say $2500-4000 oled tv? We are talking probably $10-20k. That's not including the high quality screen to go with it. These budget projectors are ok but nothing close to oled. Not even close to high end qled. The only advantage a humongous screen has is for watching the game with 8+ people. You have to ask yourself how often you will do that. After having a custom built home theater and projector for 15 years, if I was to do it again, I would not do a projector and just get a really big tv.

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FWIW I prefer a projector to having a large black rectangle on my wall when not watching.

So you want a large white rectangle instead lol? Don't tell me you are one of those project on the wall type people.

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I would take 135" over oled 85" any day. And I would definitely splurge the cash for a 120"+ OLED. I'll admit that tge color on my projector is crap compared to regular TV. However, I find no enjoyment in watching any movies with a screen less than 120", the sense of immersion is very important to me. To each their own, we have different priority in terms of leisure activities.

And how far do you sit from the 120 inch screen?

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And how far do you sit from the 120 inch screen?

I currently has a 135" setup with a vava projector, sitting 10-11 feet away. I dont think its too much, my field of view capture the entire screen. I can see all corner without turning left or right.

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I currently has a 135" setup with a vava projector, sitting 10-11 feet away. I dont think its too much, my field of view capture the entire screen. I can see all corner without turning left or right.

You can have a similar point of view and immersion on an 85 inch screen sitting 6-8 feet away. There are charts and tables out there that can tell you the equivalency.

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I have a Sony native 4k projector and I will watch my 77 inch oled over it any day. Picture quality trumps immersive experience any day. You will get to a point in size where it will make you dizzy depending on how close you are. Sure you can sit farther away but then what's the point? Might as well sit closer to a smaller tv. And if you are going to bring up price, how much do you think a projector that will actually rival the pq of a say $2500-4000 oled tv? We are talking probably $10-20k. That's not including the high quality screen to go with it. These budget projectors are ok but nothing close to oled. Not even close to high end qled. The only advantage a humongous screen has is for watching the game with 8+ people. You have to ask yourself how often you will do that. After having a custom built home theater and projector for 15 years, if I was to do it again, I would not do a projector and just get a really big tv.

Thats where individual user experience and compromise come in. Picture quality from my 135" projector definitely cant compared to my dad's 65" OLED. But I value immersion that much more. Until some manufacture can produce a 120" oled for less than $10k, I will drop my projector without a heart beat, until then, I will stick with projector for now. I will compromise on color/quality/convenient for big screen. Just like you compromise on screen size for everything else. Your priority is not the same for everyone.

Having seen oled, i do understand why you prefer oled over projector. However, sitting 6' from a TV to get the same view as a projector is just weird. I tried that and it just doesnt work. The feeling is not the same. There is no space, cant stretch or lying fown with 6 feet from the TV, it also messes with furnitures arrangement.

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You can have a similar point of view and immersion on an 85 inch screen sitting 6-8 feet away. There are charts and tables out there that can tell you the equivalency.

That sounds great for a man cave setup. But it would not work in my family room of 17 by 25 feet. It would take an awkward chunk of the space and messes with all furnitures arrangement; whereas my projector setup is perfectly aligned in the center and my sofa is set around 2/3 of the room. If I only have a man cave/basement, I wouldnt pursue a projector setup in the first place, Oled all the way for 85" and below.

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So you want a large white rectangle instead lol? Don't tell me you are one of those project on the wall type people.

Pull-down screens don't exist??!!

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I have a Sony native 4k projector and I will watch my 77 inch oled over it any day. Picture quality trumps immersive experience any day. You will get to a point in size where it will make you dizzy depending on how close you are. Sure you can sit farther away but then what's the point? Might as well sit closer to a smaller tv. And if you are going to bring up price, how much do you think a projector that will actually rival the pq of a say $2500-4000 oled tv? We are talking probably $10-20k. That's not including the high quality screen to go with it. These budget projectors are ok but nothing close to oled. Not even close to high end qled. The only advantage a humongous screen has is for watching the game with 8+ people. You have to ask yourself how often you will do that. After having a custom built home theater and projector for 15 years, if I was to do it again, I would not do a projector and just get a really big tv.

Although it comes down to individual choice, I will say this. All of my friends who've tried a projector, never wants to go back to a TV, ALL! This is regardless of how much more perfect the image on a TV could get. I am in the same boat, the experience of big screen offered by projectors is unmatched by anything else available yet in TV form(OLED included). For anything and everything I use my projector. The TV just sits there, pretty much unused to the point that we moved it to our garage, none of the family members are now interested in it anymore. I totally get it when one goes for a TV due to room constraints, but otherwise it's a lifetime "NO" for me and those I know. Not saying for argument's sake, but for me immersive experience offered by projector(even a quality 1080P model) on a 120/150 inch (even if it's just a wall)trumps PQ offered by OLED TV

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