expiredStrifeZero posted Feb 01, 2024 08:06 PM
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expiredStrifeZero posted Feb 01, 2024 08:06 PM
3-Pack 5-Qt Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil (5W-40)
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A Mobil 1, Pennzoil Ultra, Castrol EDGE are all proprietary products that these companies spend millions to develop. They use almost 2x the amount of additives, (around 13-16%) Plus Mobil still uses some PAO which is group IV. They also use a cleaner star polymer which lasts longer and burns cleaner.
We test these products in actual fired engine tests for piston deposits, sludge, wear, among others. These are the tests GM approves for dexos for example and in the "market general" product the piston deposits are pretty visible but passing (low dispersant content, dirty OCP viscosity modifier) and in the "premium" products they are almost new looking thanks to much higher dispersant loads, more antioxidants, and of course the star polymer VM which burns cleaner.
Now to a regular person sure they all seem similar as you don't tear your engines apart, and if you trade your car in every 3-5 years, it will not matter to you, but for people with turbos, or keep their cars longer, these "premium" engine oils will make your engines and turbos last longer and maintain their fuel economy and power longer.
I used to make these products before I retired so feel free to ask questions if you're curious.
I don't really want to weigh on on Pennzoil vs Mobil 1, I'll just say both are what I call premium engine oils meaning they use high levels of additives (more than spec min) and clean VM. Pennzoil uses a GTL Group III+ base oil which I know tends to run a little cleaner than regular Group III+ base oil. Mobil 1 however still uses what looks like 20-30% PAO which is very cool in my book as PAO is still my favorite. Personally I'd be fine using either.
For those niche oils like Liqui Moly those meet euro spec it is a very good product and meets all of the top OEM specs like VW, Porsche, BMW, MB etc. so top of the line additive pack and it seems like it could contain 10-30% PAO so definitely a great oil. my old coworker swears by it (has a VW).
Amsoil... I'm not so sure, they're a little like the wild west to me as they do what they want which means crazy additive packs, race oriented products which are vastly different than mass market car engine oil. I'd say good but take it with a grain of salt as if you use a high zddp oil in your new car you might kill the catalytic converter early (ask me how I know lol, rookie mistake).
Hope that helps, FYI that's just my opinion.
oh one last note, if you see a product meets ACEA, MB 229.xx, VW 50x/50x etc. you''ll know it's a top tier engine oil with a very strong additive package and probably uses the expensive, cleaner VM.
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***Derp. Says it right on the front. 20k miles!
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***Derp. Says it right on the front. 20k miles!
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A) This deal: $22.29 per 5qt, plus no rebate to fill out, plus somewhat less sales tax per unit. Con - possibly storing extra jugs of oil for many months depending on your usage
B) Rebate deal (assuming it comes back again): everyday Walmart price @ $27.97 - $6 rebate. ($10 rebate seems to be only for Extended Performance as of 2023.)
C) Wait for Walmart rollback which happens periodically and hope it coincides with a rebate: $24.97ish (??) - rebate
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FYI, the EP High Mileage version of 5W-30 is also available for $72.88. That's what I use for one of my cars.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-.../704494411
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but that's why there's Mobil 1 Formula M
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