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Model: LG Electronics 14x SATA Blu-ray Internal Rewriter without Software, Black (WH14NS40)
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For people like myself that are tired of paying for too many streaming services but like the convenience of opening an app to play my media, I use this drive to rip my DVDs, Blu Rays, and UHD Blu ray and store the media on a NAS to watch on JellyFin.
MKV is a versatile, well supported container. It can hold a large variety of video, audio, and subtitle formats. Other container formats tend to be more restrictive, at least in theory.
In my experience, optical drives of all types do tend to degrade over time, especially when in a PC. It may simply be due to dust getting into the components. I'll also note that I seem to have burned out the Blu-Ray laser in one of these drives. All was fine, then it just stopped reading, right in the middle of a disc. The drive would never recognize another Blu-Ray again. It still works fine for CDs and DVDs. It wasn't that old but did have a fair bit of use.
Technically, Blu-Rays are already compressed with AVC (H.264) or VC-1 at a high bitrate. UHD discs are compressed with HEVC (H.265). But yes, you can use something like Handbrake to further compress them.
There's not much point to uncompressed audio. Something like FLAC gives you compression, while still remaining lossless. FLAC isn't that hard to find.
Unless things have changed, MakeMKV isn't free either (though I still prefer it). The trial version of MakeMKV is free and can be perpetually updated for ripping DVDs but only temporarily allows free ripping of Blu-Rays.
Thank you for such a complete response. I had my Blu-Ray just stop working in my PC and I could not figure out why as it was not used that frequently. If I purchased a replacement and they degrade over time, then the replacement might not be any good when I need it. That is why I was asking. Thanks for the information!
Why a firmware downgrade? Does the latest firmware have a bug?
Theres a trend nowadays to abandon streaming & subscription services and go back to physical media. Esp w/ video games nowadays. Since the big statement from Ubisoft a few weeks ago about their new platform and telling gamers to get comfortable w/ not owning games so that platforms like theirs can succeed. Same w/ streaming services, content comes and goes all the time on Netflix, Hulu, Crunchyroll, etc... Owning media also prevents you from getting locked into platform exclusives and all that. I think companies pulled a trigger when they stopped selling Blu-ray media recently and its caused a lot of backlash and uproar in communities which are now responding more positively toward media ownership. Arguably aggressively removing physical media from major outlets brought life back into the market for it.
Everything has positives and negatives.
It is convenient to download games/movies. The downside to digital purchases is that you can't resale. Physical media can be resold. Don't like the game/movie or want to sell and use the cash to buy other movies/games, you can't do that with digital.
Content can be removed from purchased games. Steam has removed licensed content from games, because the licensing agreement expired. If you legally purchased it, the licensed content should not be removed. New purchases, that's fine. They can't remove licensed content from physical media.
I rip my own movie collection to ISO using AnyDvd or whatever it's called now to break the protection. And then image burn to create the ISO .
If I want the movie to be available on plex, I need to use make MKV to create the MKV file. Otherwise, I just leave it as an ISO and watch it on my media PC using KODI. I don't own enough 4K movies to get this player and rip them, but for someone with a large 4K collection I could see this drive being worth it. Of course, there's also renting them and ripping them, but it's just too much hassle to me to get a movie I didn't pay for. For me at least, having to go on the internet and find out which stream is the correct one is too much of a hassle for the process. But obviously, for many people it's worth the trouble.
Does it support 4k bluray? LG has 4k Bluray support.
It can be flashed using a flasher by billycar11' flasher. Just search on makemkv forums. If you ask me, i won't flash it to "make" it compatible. My experience is, if i flash lg or pio models to read UHDs, then i get more failures on reading BDs. Maybe because of downgrade, i d k.
It can be flashed using a flasher by billycar11' flasher. Just search on makemkv forums. If you ask me, i won't flash it to "make" it compatible. My experience is, if i flash lg or pio models to read UHDs, then i get more failures on reading BDs. Maybe because of downgrade, i d k.
I just want to know, who is buying this in 2024, and what are you doing with it?
Not trolling, just honestly curious about physical media.
Maybe you're backing up home movies, maybe you have years of tv shows you want to store on blu-ray, I don't know.
Sorry you're getting so many downvotes for a perfectly fair question. My personal answer as someone who converts VHS tapes to DVD as a side gig, is that I currently have a customer whose particular DVD player just can't play the discs I'm burning for her. I've had it happen before, and a different DVD burner from a different brand solved that problem. So I'm getting this to see if it happens to produce discs compatible with my customer's player.
These quirks also show up on the VHS side of things — sometimes my Panasonic VHS deck plays a particular tape best for recording, other times I need my Mitsubishi, JVC, or a random el cheapo. Same goes for other equipment in the signal chain.
One more thing is that I do still burn CDs occasionally, because I drive a couple of older vehicles where that's still the best option. Other than that, I'm all in on forgoing external media entirely, and keeping to high-quality digital copies of everything.
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For people like myself that are tired of paying for too many streaming services but like the convenience of opening an app to play my media, I use this drive to rip my DVDs, Blu Rays, and UHD Blu ray and store the media on a NAS to watch on JellyFin.
Yup,
this drive has been a lifesaver. Been on a mission to rip my collection of 1200 movie discs and dump it on a NAS and stream to my Zidoo box. Then next mission will be to sell the discs on eBay lol.
You'll likely pay way more for blu-ray content though.
I can buy about 15 movies on Blu-ray collection per month for the price of just Netflix without ads (1080p). In my area pawn shops sell most Blu-rays for about $1 each (some cheaper, some a little more). Sure, not the latest movies...but I tend to like movies made prior to 2015 more than those after anyway. Although I did just grab "Air" from a pawnshop for $2 the other day.
I can buy about 15 movies on Blu-ray collection per month for the price of just Netflix without ads (1080p). In my area pawn shops sell most Blu-rays for about $1 each (some cheaper, some a little more). Sure, not the latest movies...but I tend to like movies made prior to 2015 more than those after anyway. Although I did just grab "Air" from a pawnshop for $2 the other day.
I plan to raid my library, but it seems they prefer to stock DVDs instead of UHD/4k movies. Some 1080p Blu-rays.
One thing I'll add is that, don't discount the time and effort involved. There's a cost in that too.
That said, if it works for you, great! I like a combination and that works for me. Some prefer just streaming. I'm just glad there are options, and I hope those options stick around longer. In particular, I like 3D blu-rays. Those are more or less not made anymore.
Is there a way to convert this into a USB-connected drive for external use, or is it only usable as an internal drive?
I have it attached to external enclosure and that one has power on/off button in the back, literally acts like an external usb drive and I can take it anywhere I like except the enclosure requires it's own power source.
I rip my own movie collection to ISO using AnyDvd or whatever it's called now to break the protection. And then image burn to create the ISO .
If I want the movie to be available on plex, I need to use make MKV to create the MKV file. Otherwise, I just leave it as an ISO and watch it on my media PC using KODI. I don't own enough 4K movies to get this player and rip them, but for someone with a large 4K collection I could see this drive being worth it. Of course, there's also renting them and ripping them, but it's just too much hassle to me to get a movie I didn't pay for. For me at least, having to go on the internet and find out which stream is the correct one is too much of a hassle for the process. But obviously, for many people it's worth the trouble.
I just want to know, who is buying this in 2024, and what are you doing with it?
Not trolling, just honestly curious about physical media.
Maybe you're backing up home movies, maybe you have years of tv shows you want to store on blu-ray, I don't know.
Same question, the storage limits of optical media seem to have been reached and these are now the new floppy disks. USB thumb drives are dirt cheap and hold way more, do people even use blu-ray players when NAS and streaming are so widespread?
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In my experience, optical drives of all types do tend to degrade over time, especially when in a PC. It may simply be due to dust getting into the components. I'll also note that I seem to have burned out the Blu-Ray laser in one of these drives. All was fine, then it just stopped reading, right in the middle of a disc. The drive would never recognize another Blu-Ray again. It still works fine for CDs and DVDs. It wasn't that old but did have a fair bit of use.
Technically, Blu-Rays are already compressed with AVC (H.264) or VC-1 at a high bitrate. UHD discs are compressed with HEVC (H.265). But yes, you can use something like Handbrake to further compress them.
There's not much point to uncompressed audio. Something like FLAC gives you compression, while still remaining lossless. FLAC isn't that hard to find.
Unless things have changed, MakeMKV isn't free either (though I still prefer it). The trial version of MakeMKV is free and can be perpetually updated for ripping DVDs but only temporarily allows free ripping of Blu-Rays.
Theres a trend nowadays to abandon streaming & subscription services and go back to physical media. Esp w/ video games nowadays. Since the big statement from Ubisoft a few weeks ago about their new platform and telling gamers to get comfortable w/ not owning games so that platforms like theirs can succeed. Same w/ streaming services, content comes and goes all the time on Netflix, Hulu, Crunchyroll, etc... Owning media also prevents you from getting locked into platform exclusives and all that. I think companies pulled a trigger when they stopped selling Blu-ray media recently and its caused a lot of backlash and uproar in communities which are now responding more positively toward media ownership. Arguably aggressively removing physical media from major outlets brought life back into the market for it.
It is convenient to download games/movies. The downside to digital purchases is that you can't resale. Physical media can be resold. Don't like the game/movie or want to sell and use the cash to buy other movies/games, you can't do that with digital.
Content can be removed from purchased games. Steam has removed licensed content from games, because the licensing agreement expired. If you legally purchased it, the licensed content should not be removed. New purchases, that's fine. They can't remove licensed content from physical media.
If I want the movie to be available on plex, I need to use make MKV to create the MKV file. Otherwise, I just leave it as an ISO and watch it on my media PC using KODI. I don't own enough 4K movies to get this player and rip them, but for someone with a large 4K collection I could see this drive being worth it. Of course, there's also renting them and ripping them, but it's just too much hassle to me to get a movie I didn't pay for. For me at least, having to go on the internet and find out which stream is the correct one is too much of a hassle for the process. But obviously, for many people it's worth the trouble.
Not trolling, just honestly curious about physical media.
Maybe you're backing up home movies, maybe you have years of tv shows you want to store on blu-ray, I don't know.
These quirks also show up on the VHS side of things — sometimes my Panasonic VHS deck plays a particular tape best for recording, other times I need my Mitsubishi, JVC, or a random el cheapo. Same goes for other equipment in the signal chain.
One more thing is that I do still burn CDs occasionally, because I drive a couple of older vehicles where that's still the best option. Other than that, I'm all in on forgoing external media entirely, and keeping to high-quality digital copies of everything.
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this drive has been a lifesaver. Been on a mission to rip my collection of 1200 movie discs and dump it on a NAS and stream to my Zidoo box. Then next mission will be to sell the discs on eBay lol.
One thing I'll add is that, don't discount the time and effort involved. There's a cost in that too.
That said, if it works for you, great! I like a combination and that works for me. Some prefer just streaming. I'm just glad there are options, and I hope those options stick around longer. In particular, I like 3D blu-rays. Those are more or less not made anymore.
If I want the movie to be available on plex, I need to use make MKV to create the MKV file. Otherwise, I just leave it as an ISO and watch it on my media PC using KODI. I don't own enough 4K movies to get this player and rip them, but for someone with a large 4K collection I could see this drive being worth it. Of course, there's also renting them and ripping them, but it's just too much hassle to me to get a movie I didn't pay for. For me at least, having to go on the internet and find out which stream is the correct one is too much of a hassle for the process. But obviously, for many people it's worth the trouble.
Not trolling, just honestly curious about physical media.
Maybe you're backing up home movies, maybe you have years of tv shows you want to store on blu-ray, I don't know.
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