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Eco-Worthy LiFePO4 Batteries: 12V 30Ah Battery $60.30, 12V 50Ah Battery

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Eco-Worthy-US via eBay has select Eco-Worthy LiFePO4 Lithium Iron Phosphate Multi-Purpose Batteries on sale for the prices noted below when you apply Extra 20% Off coupon code PRESIDENT20 at checkout. Shipping is free.

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  • About this deal:
    • Coupon offer valid through February 19, 2024 at 11:59PM Pacific Time while supplies last.
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djsvetljo
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Be careful with the 48v 4pack. It's misleading, you get 4x 12v battery to make your own 48v.
MuddyBottoms
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I use lifepo4 batteries for my trolling motor. Two connected in series for 24v. They perform amazing because they stay at full voltage until their dead unlike lead acid which will stop turning the prop at about 50%

These are not the same as the lithium batteries found in small electronics.

Small note, these can't be charged when below the freezing point, it will damage them. Without looking I highly doubt these have cold temperature protection. It's not a big deal unless you plan to use these in the cold.
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I am replacing my batteries in a Cyberpower UPS that is 12v 9ah and F2 connectors. Anyone have experience replacing traditional batteries with these in a UPS?

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Feb 18, 2024 08:00 PM
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GregrySFeb 18, 2024 08:00 PM
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I don't know if they change the technology much but I used to use his a lot on my Ducati motorcycles and one complete discharge and they just never recover. There's no real reason to utilize something like this. When you can just stay with a light acid battery. I take a look at penn manufacturing deka battery save been made in Pennsylvania forever and for talking about UPS batters I definitely would not use a lithium phosphate battery... Way too pricey
Feb 18, 2024 08:04 PM
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CaminanteFeb 18, 2024 08:04 PM
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Quote from zygomatic :
What's a good charger for a 12V LiFePO4 battery?
I'm a little mystified by all of the "12V" LFP batteries on the market, as it's not a nominal voltage for LFP cells. Each cell typically fully charges at ~3.65V, so four in series is usually 14.6V with 100% SOC. When I look at the specification [eco-worthy.com] for this battery, it does indeed say full charge at 14.6V. Given that, I don't see how you can do a drop-and-replace with a lead-acid 12.4V battery since whatever is charging it will charge too low and with the wrong profile for LFP.

Having said all that, and to answer your question, I am using a Power Queen [amazon.com] charger ($80) for a DIY 280Ah battery I built for my travel trailer. 95% of the time I charge through solar or my truck, but I've used the Power Queen a few times and it works fine.
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CaminanteFeb 18, 2024 08:07 PM
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Quote from GregryS :
I don't know if they change the technology much but I used to use his a lot on my Ducati motorcycles and one complete discharge and they just never recover. There's no real reason to utilize something like this. When you can just stay with a light acid battery. I take a look at penn manufacturing deka battery save been made in Pennsylvania forever and for talking about UPS batters I definitely would not use a lithium phosphate battery... Way too pricey
LFP is lighter and more resilient to deep discharge than lead-acid. However, their nominal voltage is typically ~14.6V and has a completely different charge profile from lead-acid, so if you do a drop-and-replace without considering how the battery is being charged, you'll likely be disappointed. A lot of folks, myself included, use a DC-DC converter for charging from an alternator.
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nicedogFeb 18, 2024 08:12 PM
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Quote from JollyMorning9996 :
I have two of this brand's 12V 260Ah in parallel in my van. No complaints on quality.
Can you recommend me a good 12v pure sine wave inverter that works with two 12V 260Ah batteries? Is that all I need to power my fridge and other stuff during the outage?
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Quote from thatswhatshesaid :
I am replacing my batteries in a Cyberpower UPS that is 12v 9ah and F2 connectors. Anyone have experience replacing traditional batteries with these in a UPS?
If you read the data sheet for the 10AH batteries you will see the following:

Charging: "A Lead Acid Batteery charger will do just fine"

However

"Max sustained output current 10A". This means you could only safely get 128W out of your UPS. If you have a 750VA 1000VA 1350VA UPS then this will likely be "bad (the short circuit protection trigger is at 50A or 600 ish Watts) if you actually use this to keep a modest computer system powered.

would be cautious. I have also been hunting for a Lithium replacement solution for UPS and haven't found one that checks all the boxes from an electronics specs standpoint.
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Feb 18, 2024 08:21 PM
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BeautifulSeagull986Feb 18, 2024 08:21 PM
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Would be a nice replacement for Prius auxiliary 12V battery..
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Feb 18, 2024 08:23 PM
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Azrael_the_CatFeb 18, 2024 08:23 PM
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Quote from Caminante :
I'm a little mystified by all of the "12V" LFP batteries on the market, as it's not a nominal voltage for LFP cells. Each cell typically fully charges at ~3.65V, so four in series is usually 14.6V with 100% SOC. When I look at the specification [eco-worthy.com] for this battery, it does indeed say full charge at 14.6V. Given that, I don't see how you can do a drop-and-replace with a lead-acid 12.4V battery since whatever is charging it will charge too low and with the wrong profile for LFP.

Having said all that, and to answer your question, I am using a Power Queen [amazon.com] charger ($80) for a DIY 280Ah battery I built for my travel trailer. 95% of the time I charge through solar or my truck, but I've used the Power Queen a few times and it works fine.
I haven't done the analysis but I suspect that the internal BMS protection keeps it safe and that the lead acid charging (which is a constant voltage / current limit combo typically) is close enough. The final float voltage for a lead acid is often 13.8V and that is likely 90% charged on a 14.6V LFP battery.

In fact, quickly checking here: https://www.evlithium.com/Blog/li...chart.html
3.45V per cell is 95% charged and that corresponds to a normal lead acid float voltage of 13.8V

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Feb 18, 2024 08:25 PM
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dhval29Feb 18, 2024 08:25 PM
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Quote from Fwumply :
This is a great application for this. They are deeper cycle than lead acid and have a more consistent voltage. What they lack vs lead acid is the crank amps which you wouldn't need for this application.
Traditional UPS batteries are different than car batteries as car batteries use more and thinner plates, so they can not be deep discharged. PO4 is not for constant standby, and charging must account for temperature and vary as batteries reach various levels. The challenge is knowing battery level, which is simpler in acid battery as they change voltage based on capacity.
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Feb 18, 2024 08:26 PM
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ygatorFeb 18, 2024 08:26 PM
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What is with the coupon being applied AFTER tax is calculated?
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JollyMorning9996Feb 18, 2024 08:35 PM
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Quote from nicedog :
Can you recommend me a good 12v pure sine wave inverter that works with two 12V 260Ah batteries? Is that all I need to power my fridge and other stuff during the outage?
That would be all you need, assuming you have a charging solution already worked out. I have a 3000w sine wave inverter in my system but I (rarely) only ever use it for induction cooking. All my electronics are 12V.
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SlickCrayon1512Feb 18, 2024 08:55 PM
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Quote from GregryS :
I don't know if they change the technology much but I used to use his a lot on my Ducati motorcycles and one complete discharge and they just never recover. There's no real reason to utilize something like this. When you can just stay with a light acid battery. I take a look at penn manufacturing deka battery save been made in Pennsylvania forever and for talking about UPS batters I definitely would not use a lithium phosphate battery... Way too pricey
Take a look at the warnings. DO NOT USE AS ENGINE START BATTERIES
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robasha4Feb 18, 2024 08:55 PM
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Quote from zygomatic :
What's a good charger for a 12V LiFePO4 battery?
Probably a 12v lifepo4 battery charger but I'm not a biologist.
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robasha4Feb 18, 2024 08:57 PM
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What is with the coupon being applied AFTER tax is calculated?
Because the tax man/woman NEVER GETS SHORTED!
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TenseCrown318Feb 18, 2024 08:57 PM
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Quote from MuddyBottoms :
I use lifepo4 batteries for my trolling motor. Two connected in series for 24v. They perform amazing because they stay at full voltage until their dead unlike lead acid which will stop turning the prop at about 50%

These are not the same as the lithium batteries found in small electronics.

Small note, these can't be charged when below the freezing point, it will damage them. Without looking I highly doubt these have cold temperature protection. It's not a big deal unless you plan to use these in the cold.
Thank you for the comment! That was the exact reason I was looking for batteries.

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kaza456Feb 18, 2024 09:01 PM
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Is it good for a 12v sump pump backup?

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