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Then you know Pinarello is a well regarded maker!
If that's the case maybe showing people example(s) where one can spend a lot less for less weight would be helpful?
Don't know about anyone else but boat anchor paints a pretty awful picture!
I love bike deal discussions. I don't know anything about bikes so I end up getting a lot of previously unknown information. Also, next to oil threads (and a recent thread about SS flasks which turned way more contentious than than it should have) these threads produce some of the most interesting discussions.
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Being able to ride in rain is nice, I never ride my rim brake road bike if it's remotely wet after losing braking power after hitting a puddle
If you lose braking after hitting a puddle its something is wrong. I ride in the rain, my ultegra rim brakes do just as well as my rival hydro setup does. Maybe even better with less squeal in the rain.
If you lose braking after hitting a puddle its something is wrong. I ride in the rain, my ultegra rim brakes do just as well as my rival hydro setup does. Maybe even better with less squeal in the rain.
Carbon wheels, it was a big puddle and I almost ran a red light cuz of it
If you lose braking after hitting a puddle its something is wrong. I ride in the rain, my ultegra rim brakes do just as well as my rival hydro setup does. Maybe even better with less squeal in the rain.
My bike has a rim brake in the rear and a disc brake up front. Certainly the rim brake has never been in a situation where it didn't have sufficient power to lock up the rear wheel.
That said...modern discs are clearly better and are the way forward. Going with rim brakes today really limits wheel/tire choice and upgrade compatibility. Pure carbon rims don't brake very well with rim brakes, especially if wet...and it limits the shape/design of the rim.
I would not be investing much money in a new rim brake bike today.
My bike has a rim brake in the rear and a disc brake up front. Certainly the rim brake has never been in a situation where it didn't have sufficient power to lock up the rear wheel.
That said...modern discs are clearly better and are the way forward. Going with rim brakes today really limits wheel/tire choice and upgrade compatibility. Pure carbon rims don't brake very well with rim brakes, especially if wet...and it limits the shape/design of the rim.
I would not be investing much money in a new rim brake bike today.
All accurate. That said, if you are the average weekend rider, all of this is mostly irrelevant to you, unless you are the dentist who needs a Pinarello to keep up with his dentist friends (no offense to dentists)
My bike has a rim brake in the rear and a disc brake up front. Certainly the rim brake has never been in a situation where it didn't have sufficient power to lock up the rear wheel.
That said...modern discs are clearly better and are the way forward. Going with rim brakes today really limits wheel/tire choice and upgrade compatibility. Pure carbon rims don't brake very well with rim brakes, especially if wet...and it limits the shape/design of the rim.
I would not be investing much money in a new rim brake bike today.
My Ultegra-equipped road bike has the reverse setup; disc brake in the back and rim brake up front. If I wanted to "lock up" either wheel, it would certainly be the back one. But I don't have carbon rim wheels either, which seems to be a driver for disc brakes here.
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Disc brakes are ridiculous on a light weight road bike that will see only pavement. Unless (possibly) you ride mainly when it's raining, lol.
It's not about disc versus rim for better stopping. It's about rim brakes on carbon wheels. I can spend $200 changing some disc brakes and pads or I can spend $2000 changing my entire carbon wheelset for rim brakes once they go. Kind of a no brainer to me.
The pro peloton all use disc brakes now, so unless you already have rim brakes, you're not really going to find any new bikes with them anymore, and in a few years they'll all have switched over to disc.
I raced juniors, collegiate, and after with several friends going to Europe to be pros. My life has mostly been surrounded by cycling so I'm not coming to this saying 19lbs awful. I'm saying spending $3300 for 19lbs is excessive when you can spend a lot less for less weight. And weight does matter in certain situations.
Modern bikes are designed primarily for aerodynamics, and this is an aero bike. They add more materials to accomplish it. You can find a sub 12lb bike if you want. You should know that if you were actually a cyclist.
Because you are old. 105 Di2 12 speed is not "low end".
105 is lower-mid range. This seems like an ok deal. No way it was ever worth close to $6k. I'd go for something lighter at this price. Pinarello makes some nice bikes, but this ain't one of them.
105 is lower-mid range. This seems like an ok deal. No way it was ever worth close to $6k. I'd go for something lighter at this price. Pinarello makes some nice bikes, but this ain't one of them.
105 Di2 12 Speed is not low end. It's a $1900 groupset.
The kitchen and folding/pocket knife discussions can get pretty tense as well. A lot of ignorance in all these threads.
In reading through this thread so far, it is NOT disappointing. 😂. Bike people have so many differing opinions and takes on technologies and what is best. Again, I don't know crap from Shinola about bikes and after reading these bike threads, I know enough to stay far away from offering any opinion about bikes when around bike people. 😝 I could ride a $500 bike and a $5000 bike and not be able to tell them apart.
This is an awesome deal if you're good with the color and sizing.
When I ordered, all the sizes were available. I found that the .5 sizing (1.5 increments) gives more options to find a better fit. Most bikes said I ride a 52 or a 53. However, this fits me very well at 51.5.
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105 Di2 12 Speed is not low end. It's a $1900 groupset.
I test rided it and the electrical shifting is smooth and quick! I was thought it was a gimmick but feel in love with it. I plan to upgrade the gears as they wear out.
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If that's the case maybe showing people example(s) where one can spend a lot less for less weight would be helpful?
Don't know about anyone else but boat anchor paints a pretty awful picture!
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That said...modern discs are clearly better and are the way forward. Going with rim brakes today really limits wheel/tire choice and upgrade compatibility. Pure carbon rims don't brake very well with rim brakes, especially if wet...and it limits the shape/design of the rim.
I would not be investing much money in a new rim brake bike today.
That said...modern discs are clearly better and are the way forward. Going with rim brakes today really limits wheel/tire choice and upgrade compatibility. Pure carbon rims don't brake very well with rim brakes, especially if wet...and it limits the shape/design of the rim.
I would not be investing much money in a new rim brake bike today.
That said...modern discs are clearly better and are the way forward. Going with rim brakes today really limits wheel/tire choice and upgrade compatibility. Pure carbon rims don't brake very well with rim brakes, especially if wet...and it limits the shape/design of the rim.
I would not be investing much money in a new rim brake bike today.
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The pro peloton all use disc brakes now, so unless you already have rim brakes, you're not really going to find any new bikes with them anymore, and in a few years they'll all have switched over to disc.
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