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Eco-Worthy-US via eBay has select Eco-Worthy LiFePO4 Lithium Iron Phosphate Multi-Purpose Batteries on sale for the prices listed below when you apply Extra 20% Off coupon code SPRINGSAVE20 at checkout. Shipping is free.

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  • About this deal:
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      • eco-worthy-us (8,948 feedback rating)
      • 98.2% Positive feedback
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      • 30 day returns (Buyer pays for return shipping).
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Azrael_the_Cat
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Look, I appreciate you engaging but I've been designing battery charges for a long time.

you are misunderstanding the old school ways of setting charge modes and profiles for lead acid batteries. the charge mode and float mode are legacy methods associated with iron core transformers and liner voltage regulators when you needed to physically switch between current levels and voltage levels.

modern chargers current charge up to a taper voltage level then switch to constance voltage mode which is typically 13.5-13.8v. anyway I am sure your understanding is lost in semantic nuances. it's not your fault but I want to help people in the thread understand how it works enough to have the right perceptions.

I won't get into the chemistry but when you put an SLA cell above about 14 ish volts you start to dissociate hydrogen in the electrolyte. That is gas. You may have noticed flooded batts are vented and SLA batteries have pressure release valves built in for this reason to prevent bad things Smilie. see this great article here
https://www.batteriesplus.com/blo...ry-venting


Don't tell me to stop. I'm just correcting you erroneous statements I'm not trying to pick on you. I think you are just extrapolating wrong statements from some simple misunderstandings of the electronics and battery systems

Trust an EE PhD as hard as that might be.

have a great day. and happy to direct you to good articles if interested.
Ghatid
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They're bare bones batteries (with BMS). Point me to a blue tooth monitoring + low/high temp protection battery at these prices. 100Ah 12v for $160.
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SLA and LiFePO battery chemistries have different charging voltages. An SLA battery has a range from ~11.59-12.46v corresponding to 0% and 100% state of charge. A LiFePO battery's range however is ~10-14.6v.

The charger in a UPS is designed for SLA will cut off charging when the battery reaches 12.46v and shut off the UPS when the battery drops close to 11.59v. That means the LiFePO will never be full charged or discharged. So in that sense it's safe to use in a UPS.

However because it will keep the battery to SLA specs, you'll only be using approximately 23% of the battery's capacity. So that 10ah LiFePO will behave more like a 2.25ah SLA battery in the UPS.

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Mar 05, 2024 04:34 PM
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solomaMar 05, 2024 04:34 PM
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Quote from lpranal :
How long have you been running those for? I had similar experience initially, but after a while they would slowly die.
How long is "after a while"? There are not many papers about lifepo4 longevity if you keep them under charge voltage for a long time.
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solomaMar 05, 2024 04:44 PM
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Quote from cptskippy :
SLA and LiFePO battery chemistries have different charging voltages. An SLA battery has a range from ~11.59-12.46v corresponding to 0% and 100% state of charge. A LiFePO battery's range however is ~10-14.6v.

The charger in a UPS is designed for SLA will cut off charging when the battery reaches 12.46v and shut off the UPS when the battery drops close to 11.59v. That means the LiFePO will never be full charged or discharged. So in that sense it's safe to use in a UPS.

However because it will keep the battery to SLA specs, you'll only be using approximately 23% of the battery's capacity. So that 10ah LiFePO will behave more like a 2.25ah SLA battery in the UPS.
You are probably talking about $500 UPS. I had about 5-6 different models below 1500VA in my hands and they change with 13.8V constant voltage. Non use SLA special process with 14.4 and float voltage.
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lpranalMar 05, 2024 04:52 PM
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Quote from soloma :
How long is "after a while"? There are not many papers about lifepo4 longevity if you keep them under charge voltage for a long time.
Like 3 days. The first one, I woke up to everything I had connected to the UPS powered off, trying to power up and shutting down immediately. Had to manually recharge with a noco genius charger to get it to recognize.
second one, I kept a closer eye on it. It made it through the first night, but the next day I noticed it gradually dropping from 100% throughout the day, by the time I got home from work it was at 23%. At that point I called this experiment, these particular batteries would not work for my use case (<60W draw in a 750VA / 400W UPS )
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RCMIKEMar 05, 2024 05:40 PM
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Quote from desidude2000 :
What is everyone using these for?
I've got their 48v 50 Ah battery for my lawn mower. Not a lot of time on it yet, but it sure does perform better than the lead acid batteries I'd been using.
Mar 05, 2024 06:20 PM
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LeYangMar 05, 2024 06:20 PM
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Quote from iamverycrazy :
I am planning to replace the battery for a Tesla. Will this work for Cybertruck?
Use your warranty, the subsystem is also 48v so you would needed to modify these to even work.
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solomaMar 05, 2024 07:33 PM
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Quote from lpranal :
Like 3 days. The first one, I woke up to everything I had connected to the UPS powered off, trying to power up and shutting down immediately. Had to manually recharge with a noco genius charger to get it to recognize.
second one, I kept a closer eye on it. It made it through the first night, but the next day I noticed it gradually dropping from 100% throughout the day, by the time I got home from work it was at 23%. At that point I called this experiment, these particular batteries would not work for my use case (
Very strange. Not sure what to think. Battery got discharged in a live UPS connected to AC mains???
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HasRaMar 05, 2024 07:50 PM
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have anyone used them for studio lights? that's 14.5V (40 to 300w depending on the light) i believe, and with minimal wire hack you can hook it up, but wany to know if anyone has used it for that purpose.

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Can anyone tell me the physical dimensions of the 12v 30a battery? I looked on eBay could not find them. I have a jnc 660 jump box that needs a replacement battery. I was wondering would this fit inside my jump box. I have very little experience with these types of lithium batteries : would this if it fits be a good replacement in a jump box ?
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Very stupid question time and I will take my lashings as long as I get at least one non stupid answer Smilie

Kids ride-on toys typically use SLA style batteries, vs ebikes which use Lithium Ion batteries.

Where in that spectrum do these LiFePO4 batteries fall? Can you upgrade a kids ride-on car with one of these as long as you match voltage? Similar question for using these on a full fledged e-bike. I have dabbled with both building ebikes as well as modding my kids ride-on toys. But I cannot for the life of me figure out if these LiFePO4 style batteries are similar to either technology.

Alternatively, could these be used to replace the 12v battery in my RV?
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flunderMar 05, 2024 08:23 PM
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Wondering if the 12V 30Ah LiFePO4 Battery for RV / Boat will be a good replacement for Lobster Tennis machine... Physical dimension seems to be OK, but not sure if the application is a good fit to replace the current Lead-acid battery... Any suggestion?
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nwtianMar 05, 2024 08:28 PM
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The best deals are the 100ah and 150ah, about $80 for 50ah.

Anybody hookup the larger 100ah or 150ah to a smaller UPS by adding wirings?

I have used smaller lifepo4 6 ah that fit into existing UPS with original sealed lead acid but they don't last long enough for some power outages. Those portable power stations are alternative I can use but cost more like $150 for 20 to 30 ah or approximately 300watthour.

Will there be any charging, overheat issues connect such a large battery to smaller UPS?
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Tourist1292Mar 05, 2024 08:39 PM
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I almost bought the 100Ah one a few days ago when there was the 20% off Slickdeals coupon which was expired after I checked out other brands with better reviews. Now I am tempted to order this one.
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Quote from Cobalt_Blue_FF :
Very stupid question time and I will take my lashings as long as I get at least one non stupid answer Smilie

Kids ride-on toys typically use SLA style batteries, vs ebikes which use Lithium Ion batteries.

Where in that spectrum do these LiFePO4 batteries fall? Can you upgrade a kids ride-on car with one of these as long as you match voltage? Similar question for using these on a full fledged e-bike. I have dabbled with both building ebikes as well as modding my kids ride-on toys. But I cannot for the life of me figure out if these LiFePO4 style batteries are similar to either technology.

Alternatively, could these be used to replace the 12v battery in my RV?
I know several people that replaced there kids ride on toy batteries with 18v and 20v power tool lithium batteries , I don't see why this would not work also .the 12v 30a is called a rv battery in the description.
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TsumiMar 05, 2024 09:31 PM
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Quote from vnw98 :
Can these be used for a jet ski. In Florida so don't need freeze protection.
Nope, they won't provide the cranking amps needed. Look at Antigravity Batteries for starter LFP batteries- they are very pricey.

Quote from flunder :
Wondering if the 12V 30Ah LiFePO4 Battery for RV / Boat will be a good replacement for Lobster Tennis machine... Physical dimension seems to be OK, but not sure if the application is a good fit to replace the current Lead-acid battery... Any suggestion?
They excel in any situation where surge current doesn't happen and just needs to provide power for a long period of time. Get a proper LFP charger to get the most out of it.

Quote from Cobalt_Blue_FF :
Very stupid question time and I will take my lashings as long as I get at least one non stupid answer Smilie

Kids ride-on toys typically use SLA style batteries, vs ebikes which use Lithium Ion batteries.

Where in that spectrum do these LiFePO4 batteries fall? Can you upgrade a kids ride-on car with one of these as long as you match voltage? Similar question for using these on a full fledged e-bike. I have dabbled with both building ebikes as well as modding my kids ride-on toys. But I cannot for the life of me figure out if these LiFePO4 style batteries are similar to either technology.

Alternatively, could these be used to replace the 12v battery in my RV?
LFP falls towards the Li-Ion side of the spectrum, quite closely in fact. Lower maximum output for the battery size as compared to Li-Ion but almost no fire risk. They are different enough that you need a LFP charger to get the most out of it.

Many people replace their RV deep cycle LA batteries with LFP. It's more than just a simple swap though as you will need charge controllers and isolaters, depending on the setup. Lots of info if you google for it.

Quote from RelaxedPenguin2752 :
I know several people that replaced there kids ride on toy batteries with 18v and 20v power tool lithium batteries , I don't see why this would not work also .the 12v 30a is called a rv battery in the description.
Tool batteries are generally Li-Ion, not LFP.

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carbo5150Mar 05, 2024 09:32 PM
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I recently acquired two 12V 150AH battery packs at a 20% discount through Slickdeals for my 24V solar system and am now contemplating an expansion. This time, I spent approximately $480 to purchase an additional two 150AH battery packs. With this upgrade, my system will comprise a 24V, 300AH battery configuration with a capacity of 7200W, perfectly poised to store the summer sunlight. Furthermore, with the discount on eBay, the price of $480 is a significant saving compared to the $580 Amazon price. Additionally, should I decide to upgrade to a 48V system in the future, these batteries will still be compatible and useful.

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