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Eco-Worthy Solar Hybrid Inverters w/ Controllers: 600W 12V Inverter

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OhFrugal
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This is only for what is known as an off grid system and you would be connecting your main to charge the battery (if necessary) and power your appliances (through pass circuit) when the solar / battery power is not there. The output of the inverter is isolated from your mains. Of course, that means some rewiring or dedicating some appliances or part of the house to the solar power, making sure your power draw is within the capacity of the solar system and so on. I have posted a link for a system I built a year ago in another post. I paid some $450 for the 24V AIO inverter. The 48V AIOI is tempting but the battery prices are exorbitant. Perhaps with the EV sales slow down, the battery prices would come down.
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Jarred125
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You generally will need a net metering agreement with your utility. They will require the inverter to meet specific requirements to be interconnected (in most cases). Then the inverter needs to have time of use settings. Personally, I wouldn't invest in anything 24V for a house, it would need to be 48V. You also need to make sure the inverter can output the amperage you need to run whatever items you want to power.

Personally, I would isolate things you want to run off a system like this and do not interconnect at all until you are really ready to go down that path. You could run a sub panel off something like this, that has no feed back to the utility and have fun testing. I have a 8.9kW array with a SolArk 15K with 20kWh of storage, in the process of adding another 8kW of solar right now.
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I've got 600w of solar panels we bring when camping without power, i've been itching to put them to use to power some stuff around the house. Seems like that 3kw hybrid inverter would work nicely with a 24v battery.
Anyone know if you can setup so that when power prices increase (time of use) it will really start pulling from the batteries?

Edit: i should have been more clear, i'm not looking to connect to the grid, just run some items off the inverter and recharge the battery, not backfeeding to the grid.

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Mar 05, 2024 03:29 PM
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Danimal86Mar 05, 2024 03:29 PM
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I've got 600w of solar panels we bring when camping without power, i've been itching to put them to use to power some stuff around the house. Seems like that 3kw hybrid inverter would work nicely with a 24v battery.
Anyone know if you can setup so that when power prices increase (time of use) it will really start pulling from the batteries?

Edit: i should have been more clear, i'm not looking to connect to the grid, just run some items off the inverter and recharge the battery, not backfeeding to the grid.
Last edited by Danimal86 March 5, 2024 at 01:07 PM.
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jramirexMar 05, 2024 03:59 PM
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You need to know what your electric company agreement says before thinking about messing with time of use or anything that will cause accidental backfeed. Even the most expensive inverters like Sol-Ark can backfeed in certain situations.
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RobL8161Mar 05, 2024 04:02 PM
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Check out price and your possible setup. Due to hoa and space. I can only hide like max 3 panels. The 12V pricing also made more sense. With deal I got the 12V 280Ah for $420. Still debating if I want to leave the unit outside ( covered) or inside the house... Fire..
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scotts9612Mar 05, 2024 04:25 PM
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I can run my house off this
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Quote from Danimal86 :
I've got 600w of solar panels we bring when camping without power, i've been itching to put them to use to power some stuff around the house. Seems like that 3kw hybrid inverter would work nicely with a 24v battery.
Anyone know if you can setup so that when power prices increase (time of use) it will really start pulling from the batteries?
You generally will need a net metering agreement with your utility. They will require the inverter to meet specific requirements to be interconnected (in most cases). Then the inverter needs to have time of use settings. Personally, I wouldn't invest in anything 24V for a house, it would need to be 48V. You also need to make sure the inverter can output the amperage you need to run whatever items you want to power.

Personally, I would isolate things you want to run off a system like this and do not interconnect at all until you are really ready to go down that path. You could run a sub panel off something like this, that has no feed back to the utility and have fun testing. I have a 8.9kW array with a SolArk 15K with 20kWh of storage, in the process of adding another 8kW of solar right now.
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BudarowMar 05, 2024 05:07 PM
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I like the concept of a charge controller/ inverter combo, but the reviews on them don't seem great (i.e., 3.5 stars no matter what the brand).
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Danimal86Mar 05, 2024 05:10 PM
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Quote from Jarred125 :
You generally will need a net metering agreement with your utility. They will require the inverter to meet specific requirements to be interconnected (in most cases). Then the inverter needs to have time of use settings. Personally, I wouldn't invest in anything 24V for a house, it would need to be 48V. You also need to make sure the inverter can output the amperage you need to run whatever items you want to power.

Personally, I would isolate things you want to run off a system like this and do not interconnect at all until you are really ready to go down that path. You could run a sub panel off something like this, that has no feed back to the utility and have fun testing. I have a 8.9kW array with a SolArk 15K with 20kWh of storage, in the process of adding another 8kW of solar right now.
We already have solar on the roof that the builder installed. I contacted my power company and they said that basically any change to the system i'd loose my legacy NEM agreement.

So i'm thinking about making my home office its own little grid running off a hybrid inverter and a 24/48v battery.

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OhFrugalMar 05, 2024 05:16 PM
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Quote from Danimal86 :
I've got 600w of solar panels we bring when camping without power, i've been itching to put them to use to power some stuff around the house. Seems like that 3kw hybrid inverter would work nicely with a 24v battery.
Anyone know if you can setup so that when power prices increase (time of use) it will really start pulling from the batteries?
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Quote from jramirex :
You need to know what your electric company agreement says before thinking about messing with time of use or anything that will cause accidental backfeed. Even the most expensive inverters like Sol-Ark can backfeed in certain situations.
Quote from Danimal86 :
I've got 600w of solar panels we bring when camping without power, i've been itching to put them to use to power some stuff around the house. Seems like that 3kw hybrid inverter would work nicely with a 24v battery.
Anyone know if you can setup so that when power prices increase (time of use) it will really start pulling from the batteries?
Quote from Danimal86 :
We already have solar on the roof that the builder installed. I contacted my power company and they said that basically any change to the system i'd loose my legacy NEM agreement.

So i'm thinking about making my home office its own little grid running off a hybrid inverter and a 24/48v battery.
This is only for what is known as an off grid system and you would be connecting your main to charge the battery (if necessary) and power your appliances (through pass circuit) when the solar / battery power is not there. The output of the inverter is isolated from your mains. Of course, that means some rewiring or dedicating some appliances or part of the house to the solar power, making sure your power draw is within the capacity of the solar system and so on. I have posted a link for a system I built a year ago in another post. I paid some $450 for the 24V AIO inverter. The 48V AIOI is tempting but the battery prices are exorbitant. Perhaps with the EV sales slow down, the battery prices would come down.
*****A Prof. of ECE&CS with 50 years of R&D experience*****
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BudarowMar 05, 2024 05:54 PM
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Quote from OhFrugal :
This is only for what is known as an off grid system and you would be connecting your main to charge the battery (if necessary) and power your appliances (through pass circuit) when the solar / battery power is not there. The output of the inverter is isolated from your mains. Of course, that means some rewiring or dedicating some appliances or part of the house to the solar power, making sure your power draw is within the capacity of the solar system and so on. I have posted a link for a system I built a year ago in another post. I paid some $450 for the 24V AIO inverter. The 48V AIOI is tempting but the battery prices are exorbitant. Perhaps with the EV sales slow down, the battery prices would come down.
*****A Prof. of ECE&CS with 50 years of R&D experience*****
Ohfrugal... you seem to know all about solar, just curious about your thoughts on having only UL listed solar components? I like the idea for quality purposes, but it seems hard to find reasonably priced components (e.g., charge controller, combiner box, etc.)which are UL listed for a relatively small 12 volt, off the grid solar system (e.g., <5,000 watts) .
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Quote from Danimal86 :
I've got 600w of solar panels we bring when camping without power, i've been itching to put them to use to power some stuff around the house. Seems like that 3kw hybrid inverter would work nicely with a 24v battery.
Anyone know if you can setup so that when power prices increase (time of use) it will really start pulling from the batteries?
Agreed you cannot just intercon to the grid and you must isolate. Depending upon the jurisdiction, you typically need to have permits and the electrical they take VERY seriously because if you accidentally feed back during an outage you can kill people (line) or in your house if not done properly.

Also not sure if this is mentioned but you will likely want a home to have a minimum 48V or 96V because of the gauge of the wiring will be very expensive and for every 2x in voltage the gauge goes down one level (rule of thumb but distant dependent). Of course the input voltage YMMV on the inverter model but the higher the voltage the better. My inverter handles 300+V because that is what my solar panels field but there is also a tradeoff as once you get above 48V now you are getting into personnel issues w/ safety. You are also likely putting LFP in your home while they have lower thermal runaway risk that cobalt-based tech they can still destroy your house so proper installation is paramount. Codes are getting more stringent for fire isolation/sheds etc so they will become even more expensive to build in the futire.

My point being just dont do this on your own, you should consult a professional and do it above board because if you ever get caught or have to sell the home and it is not properly inspected or permitted you can lose you home insurance and/or they will make you remediate it costing many more times than the saving in electrical cost.

Where I live there is no ROI on battery (ever) because I have special TOU rates for my EV but there are other considerations if you are looking to do this for ROI or just for fun.
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Quote from Danimal86 :
I've got 600w of solar panels we bring when camping without power, i've been itching to put them to use to power some stuff around the house. Seems like that 3kw hybrid inverter would work nicely with a 24v battery.
Anyone know if you can setup so that when power prices increase (time of use) it will really start pulling from the batteries?
So, Eco Worthy doesn't make hybrid inverters that backfeed to the grid. With the 3kw hybrid inverter, you connect upstream to the grid, pv, and batteries, and then connect downstream to a sub-panel which contains all your circuits that you want to run off the pv or battery. You'll have to move these circuits from your main panel to the sub-panel.

If you want to backfeed to the grid without the overfeeding the grid, you can connect your batteries to a "grid tie inverter with limited" - look on amazon. With this, you would just need a solar charger controller and some batteries.
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nwtianMar 05, 2024 09:14 PM
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So the 600w has a 30a PWM charge controller. What about the 1100W, any charge controller?

Ok after browsing all the photos, no charge controllers for 1100w and 2000w. So best deals are the 3000 and 5000w with MPPTs.
Last edited by nwtian March 5, 2024 at 02:22 PM.
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TylerJ_COEMar 06, 2024 12:38 AM
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Quote from nwtian :
So the 600w has a 30a PWM charge controller. What about the 1100W, any charge controller?

Ok after browsing all the photos, no charge controllers for 1100w and 2000w. So best deals are the 3000 and 5000w with MPPTs.
Good call. I'm trying to cancel the 600w inverter with pwm. Def want mppt. I asked them to switch to the 1100w one. But now I realize it does not have a controller. Thanks for the heads up.

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Quote from jramirex :
You need to know what your electric company agreement says before thinking about messing with time of use or anything that will cause accidental backfeed. Even the most expensive inverters like Sol-Ark can backfeed in certain situations.
You will never use this device as an invertor connected to the grid, it's strictly for charging batteries (such as an RV or off-grid setup) and plugging in isolated small 120V devices. If you dare use this wired into a house that's connected to the grid, you better have a transfer switch that can only select either grid power or this device's AC output.
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