expiredIzzy138 | Staff posted Mar 08, 2024 03:38 PM
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expiredIzzy138 | Staff posted Mar 08, 2024 03:38 PM
10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished)
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There is a code for 15% off eBay price in an online site that will bring cost to $59.49. Name not allowed to mention here.
Search eBay for:
HGST Ultrastar HE10 HUH721010ALE600 10TB SATA 6Gb/s 7200RPM 3.5" Enterprise HDD
There's also the 12TB for 99.99 from goHardDrive with the 5 year warranty.
Search eBay for:
HGST Ultrastar DC HC520 12TB SATA 6Gb 256MB 3.5" Enterprise HDD- HUH721212ALE601
These hard drives are rated for 2.5 million hours or about 285 years!
These hard drives should work great with the Synology NAS 4-bay DiskStation DS423+ or the 2-bay DS224+
These are essentially HGST, Inc. (Hitachi Global Storage Technologies) hard disk drives and they have a great reputation as very long-lasting hard drives.
I ordered 2 10Tb drives at $60 each.
That vendor also has the HGST 12Tb drives at $99.99 each but $85 each with the coupon.
It's far more important for SD that it makes that penny when you click through its links here than you saving $10 if you have access to another site's coupon link posted by another user, even though that coupon is not available here at SD!
SD can be more flexible in that case, but it's not and it deletes those posts and penalizes anyone posting it.
It's the user's responsibility here to search online for the best prices and coupons.
Such cable will not be compatible with NASs.
Also, has anyone here installed these drives in a newer or older Synology NAS, or any other NAS with or without problems caused by this power disable issue?
I have 1 and 2Tb HGST hard drives working 24/7 in Synology NASs for about 15 years now with zero issues in different locations.
The only thing that concerns me now is this power cable compatibility of these HGST drives, especially with any older NASs.
Such cable will not be compatible with NASs.
Also, has anyone here installed these drives in a newer or older Synology NAS, or any other NAS with or without problems caused by this power disable issue?
If you have a drive that supports PWDIS and a PSU that doesn't, you snip or tape the proper pin on the drive, use a USB dock, or use a crimped Molex connector for power. Or get a PSU that supports PWDIS.
Usually a NAS is fine, but we cannot know how old the particular one you have a question about is. Still, not an issue if you tape or snip the pin on the drive. Google PWDIS or 3.3v mod.
And FWIW, WD owns HGST, there is no HGST anymore. They may use the HGST designs, but the drives are wholly WD at this point.
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If you have a drive that supports PWDIS and a PSU that doesn't, you snip or tape the proper pin on the drive, use a USB dock, or use a crimped Molex connector for power. Or get a PSU that supports PWDIS.
Usually a NAS is fine, but we cannot know how old the particular one you have a question about is. Still, not an issue if you tape or snip the pin on the drive. Google PWDIS or 3.3v mod.
And FWIW, WD owns HGST, there is no HGST anymore. They may use the HGST designs, but the drives are wholly WD at this point.
According to WD Technology brief it depends on the hard drive model # and part #, as some have it and some don't:
https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/col... [westerndigital.com]
It looks as if those drives with the model # HUH721010ALE600 and part # beginning with the # 0F274xx for the 10 Tb, and HUH721212ALE601 and 0F29xxx for the 12Tb have the PWDIS feature that will have to be taken care of or the drive will not spin up.
It looks like the 10Tb HGST drives sold by goHardDrive on eBay have it, and some on Newegg do not have it according to the WD Technology brief.
For instance, a drive shown on Newegg with the model # HUH721010ALE601 and part # 0F27605 does not have it according to the WD Technology brief.
So, it looks like one may get a drive with it or without, depending on the batches these reseller vendors have and ship at the time.
The only thing certain is the drive size, 10Tb or 12Tb depending on one's purchase.
Also, this:
https://www.tomshardwar
Thanks!
SED: Self-Encrypting Drive
ISE: Instant Secure Erase
SE: Secure Erase
It's best to be familiar with these terms to ensure that one always has access to the data and can recover them, and these data are backed up elsewhere.
These are not the run-of-the-mill hard drives, they are Enterprise Hard Drives and are far more sophisticated.
Since all these drives are bulk sales one is not sure which one of these types one may get.
That's why it's important to be familiar with these drives especially if one uses them for data one cannot afford to lose and/or get scrambled with no recovery possibilities.
Most likely these Enterprise Drives were used by companies like AWS, Google, Facebook, and other large companies that have the knowledgeable IT staff to take care of various issues/problems that may arise.
More on these:
SED:
https://www.linkedin.com/advice/1/what-benefits-drawbacks-using-self-encrypting#:~:text=Unlike%20sof... [linkedin.com]
ISE and SE:
https://hardforum.com/threads/wha...s.1891214/
According to WD Technology brief it depends on the hard drive model # and part #, as some have it and some don't:
https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/col... [westerndigital.com]
It looks as if those drives with the model # HUH721010ALE600 and part # beginning with the # 0F274xx for the 10 Tb, and HUH721212ALE601 and 0F29xxx for the 12Tb have the PWDIS feature that will have to be taken care of or the drive will not spin up.
It looks like the 10Tb HGST drives sold by goHardDrive on eBay have it, and some on Newegg do not have it according to the WD Technology brief.
For instance, a drive shown on Newegg with the model # HUH721010ALE601 and part # 0F27605 does not have it according to the WD Technology brief.
So, it looks like one may get a drive with it or without, depending on the batches these reseller vendors have and ship at the time.
The only thing certain is the drive size, 10Tb or 12Tb depending on one's purchase.
Also, this:
https://www.tomshardwar
Or you could get a WD HC530 series drive, which don't support PWDIS.
Thanks!
If you don't need to swap drives regularly, want a built-in cloning feature, or have any number of other requirements (USB-C connection maybe?), there are many viable alternatives that may be better suited.
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Two questions:
1. What's the Synology model and how old is it,
2. Did you try to neutralize Pin 3 as described in posts 114 and 116 here, and then try to see if it works, although that doesn't seem to be necessary with Synology NASs?
There's some discussion on Reddit about this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/synology..._syn
https://www.reddit.com/r/synology...ts_d
https://www.reddit.com/r/synology...ire_
Also, check the Synology Compatibility Lists for the various NAS versions/models and hard drive Firmware (Other NAS companies probably have similar compatibility lists):
https://www.synology.co
For instance for the 10Tb WD HGST drives (Only partial lists below. For complete drive lists check the link above. Bold indicates hard drive Firmware version):
HUH721010ALE600 - 0F27452 (LHGNT384)
Compatible Models
SA series:
SA3600, SA3400
21 series:
RS1221RP+, RS1221+, DS1821+, DS1621xs+, DS1621+
20 series:
RS820RP+, RS820+, DS220j
19 series:
RS1619xs+, RS1219+, DS2419+II, DS2419+, DS1819+, DS1019+, DVA3219
18 series:
RS3618xs, RS2818RP+, RS2418RP+, RS2418+, RS818RP+, RS818+, DS3018xs, DS1618+, DS918+, DS718+, DS418, DS418play, DS418j, DS218+, DS218, DS218play, DS218j, DS118, NVR1218
17 series:
RS18017xs+, RS4017xs+, RS3617xs+, RS3617RPxs, RS217, DS3617xsII, DS3617xs, DS1817+, DS1817, DS1517+, DS1517
16 series:
RS18016xs+, RS2416RP+, RS2416+, DS916+, DS716+II, DS716+, DS416, DS416play, DS216+II, DS216+, DS216, DS216play, DS216j, DS216se, DS116, NVR216
15 series:
RS815RP+, RS815+, DS3615xs, DS2415+, DS2015xs, DS1815+, DS1515+, DS1515, DS715, DS415+, DS415play, DS215+, DS215j, DS115, DS115j
14 series:
RS814RP+, RS814+, RS214, DS214+, DS214, DS214play, DS214se, DS114
13 series:
DS2413+, DS1813+, DS1513+, DS713+, DS213j, DS213air
12 series:
DS3612xs, DS412+, DS212j, DS112+, DS112, DS112j
11 series:
DS211, DS211j, DS111
Incompatible Models
17 series:
RS3617xs
14 series:
RS3614xs+, RS3614RPxs, RS3614xs, RS2414RP+, RS2414+
13 series:
RS10613xs+, RS3413xs+, DS413, DS413j, DS213+, DS213
12 series:
RS3412RPxs, RS3412xs, RS2212RP+, RS2212+, RS812RP+, RS812+, RS812, RS212, DS1812+, DS1512+, DS712+, DS212+, DS212
11 series:
RS3411RPxs, RS3411xs, RS2211RP+, RS2211+, RS411, DS3611xs, DS2411+, DS1511+, DS411+II, DS411+, DS411, DS211+
Notes
This model is advised to be used in the temperature range specified by its original manufacturer.
Please note that the HDD/SSD firmware may be updated or modified by its manufacturer without prior notice. Synology can only ensure that the firmware listed is compatible with Synology products.
AND:
HUH721010ALE600 - 0F27452 (LHGNT21D)
Compatible Models
SA series:
SA3600, SA3400
20 series:
RS820RP+, RS820+
19 series:
RS1219+, RS819, DS1819+, DS1019+, DVA3219
18 series:
RS3618xs, RS818RP+, RS818+, DS918+, DS218j, NVR1218
17 series:
RS18017xs+, RS217, DS1817+, DS1817, DS1517+, DS1517
16 series:
RS18016xs+, RS2416RP+, RS2416+, DS916+, DS716+II, DS716+, DS416, DS416play, DS216+II, DS216+, DS216, DS216play, DS216j, DS216se, DS116, NVR216
15 series:
RS815RP+, RS815+, DS3615xs, DS2415+, DS2015xs, DS1815+, DS1515+, DS1515, DS715, DS415+, DS415play, DS215+, DS215j, DS115, DS115j
14 series:
RS814RP+, RS814+, RS214, DS214+, DS214, DS214play, DS214se, DS114
13 series:
DS2413+, DS1813+, DS1513+, DS713+, DS213j, DS213air
12 series:
DS3612xs, DS412+, DS212j, DS112+, DS112, DS112j
11 series:
DS211, DS211j, DS111
Incompatible Models
17 series:
RS4017xs+, RS3617xs+, RS3617RPxs, RS3617xs, DS3617xsII, DS3617xs
14 series:
RS3614xs+, RS3614RPxs, RS3614xs, RS2414RP+, RS2414+
13 series:
RS10613xs+, RS3413xs+, DS413, DS413j, DS213+, DS213
12 series:
RS3412RPxs, RS3412xs, RS2212RP+, RS2212+, RS812RP+, RS812+, RS812, RS212, DS1812+, DS1512+, DS712+, DS212+, DS212
11 series:
RS3411RPxs, RS3411xs, RS2211RP+, RS2211+, RS411, DS3611xs, DS2411+, DS1511+, DS411+II, DS411+, DS411, DS411j, DS211+
Notes
This drive is compatible to RS3617xs+, RS3617RPxs, RS4017xs+ and DS3617xs only with 384 firmware. Please contact HGST customer service to get the firmware update.
Please note that the HDD/SSD firmware may be updated or modified by its manufacturer without prior notice. Synology can only ensure that the firmware listed is compatible with Synology products.
This drive is only compatible with Synology server models equipped with hard drive trays and shipped after June, 2014.
Also, for just a sample of specific Synology NASs:
https://www.synology.co
Or:
https://www.synology.co
Or:
https://www.synology.co
Or:
https://www.synology.co
As it can be seen from the above, not all Synology NASs are compatible with the HGST 10Tb hard drives. Or the 12Tb ones.
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