Costco Wholesale has for its Members:
Dell XPS 8960 Desktop (XPS8960-7203BLK-PCA) on sale for
$699.99. Shipping and handling is $14.99.
Thanks to Community Member
GaryG3465 for finding this deal..
Specs:- 13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700 16-Core Processor
- 16GB DDR5 4800MHz RAM
- 512GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
- Integrated Intel UHD 770 Graphics
- Killer 1675 Wi-Fi 6E AX1675+ and Bluetooth 5.3
- Dell Multimedia Keyboard & Wired Mouse
- Microsoft Windows 11 Home (64-bit)
- Ports:
- 5x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
- 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C
- ​2x USB 2.0 Type-A
- 1x Display Port 1.4
- 1x SD Card Reader
- 1x Headphone/Microphone Combination Jack
- 1x RJ-45 LAN
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This power supply is a 12 Volt Only style model. That style distinction is significant since although OEMs have started implementing their own versions of ATX 12VO for cost-savings as well as to meet certain efficiency requirements, what is being sold in OEM systems isn't really standardized in the retail space. So if the power supply needs replacement (outside of warranty) or upgrading, this challenge alone will create some issues well beyond a simple drive to Micro Center.
On top of that, the motherboard also integrates the front panel connections such as the USB sockets directly onto the motherboard. Though typical for many OEM systems such as those from HP, this also complicates replacement of the motherboard and/or case.
About the only offset here is that unlike many comparable systems this XPS power supply in this deal does incorporate a 6-pin and 8-pin GPU connector. However, the usefulness of this connectivity is limited by the capacity of the supply vs the power budget of the CPU. As such this system has a slightly greater range of GPU upgrade options vs some eve more restrictive OEM systems shipped with sub-300W power supplies that lack a GPU connector.
Ultimately, this recommends at least three possible approaches:
Operate this system as a sealed box with limited to power-neutral upgrades for its lifetime (so only swapping in CPUs or GPUs which are supported within the existing power budget). This works for a large group of users and represents the target audience of this kind of pre-built.
Be the kind of DIY-er who cuts into power supply wires, uses custom power supply wire harnesses, or runs dual power supplies in a PC as part of any significant GPU upgrade (nothing unimaginable, but definitely a niche group).
Ignore this kind of highly custom OEM system in favor of a PC which utilizes standardized motherboards and power supplies.
Good luck!
Jon
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This power supply is a 12 Volt Only style model. That style distinction is significant since although OEMs have started implementing their own versions of ATX 12VO for cost-savings as well as to meet certain efficiency requirements, what is being sold in OEM systems isn't really standardized in the retail space. So if the power supply needs replacement (outside of warranty) or upgrading, this challenge alone will create some issues well beyond a simple drive to Micro Center.
On top of that, the motherboard also integrates the front panel connections such as the USB sockets directly onto the motherboard. Though typical for many OEM systems such as those from HP, this also complicates replacement of the motherboard and/or case.
About the only offset here is that unlike many comparable systems this XPS power supply in this deal does incorporate a 6-pin and 8-pin GPU connector. However, the usefulness of this connectivity is limited by the capacity of the supply vs the power budget of the CPU. As such this system has a slightly greater range of GPU upgrade options vs some eve more restrictive OEM systems shipped with sub-300W power supplies that lack a GPU connector.
Ultimately, this recommends at least three possible approaches:
- Operate this system as a sealed box with limited to power-neutral upgrades for its lifetime (so only swapping in CPUs or GPUs which are supported within the existing power budget). This works for a large group of users and represents the target audience of this kind of pre-built.
- Be the kind of DIY-er who cuts into power supply wires, uses custom power supply wire harnesses, or runs dual power supplies in a PC as part of any significant GPU upgrade (nothing unimaginable, but definitely a niche group).
- Ignore this kind of highly custom OEM system in favor of a PC which utilizes standardized motherboards and power supplies.
Good luck!Jon
This power supply is a 12 Volt Only style model. That style distinction is significant since although OEMs have started implementing their own versions of ATX 12VO for cost-savings as well as to meet certain efficiency requirements, what is being sold in OEM systems isn't really standardized in the retail space. So if the power supply needs replacement (outside of warranty) or upgrading, this challenge alone will create some issues well beyond a simple drive to Micro Center.
On top of that, the motherboard also integrates the front panel connections such as the USB sockets directly onto the motherboard. Though typical for many OEM systems such as those from HP, this also complicates replacement of the motherboard and/or case.
About the only offset here is that unlike many comparable systems this XPS power supply in this deal does incorporate a 6-pin and 8-pin GPU connector. However, the usefulness of this connectivity is limited by the capacity of the supply vs the power budget of the CPU. As such this system has a slightly greater range of GPU upgrade options vs some eve more restrictive OEM systems shipped with sub-300W power supplies that lack a GPU connector.
Ultimately, this recommends at least three possible approaches:
- Operate this system as a sealed box with limited to power-neutral upgrades for its lifetime (so only swapping in CPUs or GPUs which are supported within the existing power budget). This works for a large group of users and represents the target audience of this kind of pre-built.
- Be the kind of DIY-er who cuts into power supply wires, uses custom power supply wire harnesses, or runs dual power supplies in a PC as part of any significant GPU upgrade (nothing unimaginable, but definitely a niche group).
- Ignore this kind of highly custom OEM system in favor of a PC which utilizes standardized motherboards and power supplies.
Good luck!Jon
Here's something I came up with in a couple of minutes.
https://pcpartpicker.co
This spud guy sounds like ChatGPT.
"Good luck! Jon"
Here's something I came up with in a couple of minutes.
https://pcpartpicker.co
If you're going to build it yourself, at least choose components you actually like.
PC Part Picker is good as a reference, but they are hardly a monolith for what you should end up with. They have been wildly inaccurate in the past and tend to steer uniformed users toward components that make little sense in terms of bang for your buck.
They also don't represent every component on the market since they only source data from a few websites, which presents a bias ahead of some other biases they've been accused of in the past.
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things that do not depreciate in value much is the power supply over time unless its being used.
you want a 1000 w power supply back in the day now these 500 watt are weak its like worth 50 bucks for that power supply or less.
GPU is of course going to cost extra premium
anyway its not a bad build if you want the bare min but if I'm going i7 i better get a GPU as well else I may as well use a 200 dollar system for basics.
only reason to buy a higher end machine is really for gaming or gpu intensive processes.
Everyone has to know that by now.
or Crypto mining thats been deader than dead now its AI mining processes that have existed for 100 yrs but used as a pump and dump justification for NVDA and AI stonks. duh. everyone in the industry knows this. except wall street actually they know but selling to idiot sheep for more p n d until they cant anymore. fomo sheep.
anyway if you need a GPU look elsewhere you need to replace the PSU and have a slot for GPU.
If you're going to build it yourself, at least choose components you actually like.
PC Part Picker is good as a reference, but they are hardly a monolith for what you should end up with. They have been wildly inaccurate in the past and tend to steer uniformed users toward components that make little sense in terms of bang for your buck.
They also don't represent every component on the market since they only source data from a few websites, which presents a bias ahead of some other biases they've been accused of in the past.
I am thinking of this build as a home server, or people can wait for a GPU deal.
things that do not depreciate in value much is the power supply over time unless its being used.
you want a 1000 w power supply back in the day now these 500 watt are weak its like worth 50 bucks for that power supply or less.
GPU is of course going to cost extra premium
anyway its not a bad build if you want the bare min but if I'm going i7 i better get a GPU as well else I may as well use a 200 dollar system for basics.
only reason to buy a higher end machine is really for gaming or gpu intensive processes.
Everyone has to know that by now.
or Crypto mining thats been deader than dead now its AI mining processes that have existed for 100 yrs but used as a pump and dump justification for NVDA and AI stonks. duh. everyone in the industry knows this. except wall street actually they know but selling to idiot sheep for more p n d until they cant anymore. fomo sheep.
anyway if you need a GPU look elsewhere you need to replace the PSU and have a slot for GPU.
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