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Refurb: 12TB HGST Ultrastar He12 7.2K RPM SATA 3.5" Internal Hard Drive + 5yr Warranty Expired

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goHardDrive via eBay has 12TB HGST Ultrastar He12 7.2K RPM 6Gb/s SATA 3.5 Internal Hard Drive (Certified Refurbished, HUH721212ALE601) + 5-Year Seller Warranty on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

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  • Note: Includes a 1-Year Allstate Warranty + a 5-Year Warranty from the Reseller.
Specs:
  • 12TB Internal Capacity
  • Ultrastar He12 Series
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • SATA 6Gb/s Interface
  • 256MB Cache
  • 7.2K RPM Spindle Speed
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For those of us who wanted goHardDrive's 5 year warranty on a 12TB HGST drive, the price has finally dropped to $80 matching what we saw from SPD.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156046813385
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Seriously, so tired of the same garbage being posted in every thread.
Just to get the rest of the nonsense out of the way :
1) Yes, it's a lot of data to potentially lose so don't be a moron and DO have a backup strategy if it's data you care about.
2) These drives potentially support PWDIS so make sure you do the 3.3v mod and tape or snip the pin if you have a drive that supports PWDIS but a PSU that doesn't. You can also use a Molex to SATA adapter, but use the crimped ones and not the molded ones since the molded ones can burn up.
3) Yes, they don't ACTUALLY refurbish the drive. Do you know how many places are equipped with a clean room to take apart drives and do actual refurbishing? I don't, but I do know that I don't want some random third party opening my HDD before they sell it to me. Slapping a sticker on it, doing a format or secure erase, and even blanking SMART is about all the refurbishing I require on an HDD. Or a PC for that matter.
4) Yes, these drives have a good number of hours on them. Yes, enterprise drive MTBF numbers are insanely high but don't necessarily guarantee a long life. Lots of hours doesn't necessarily mean a shorter lifespan either. If you can't handle that and would rather pay retail..... bye.
5) Yeo, these CAN be louder than normal drives. But honestly, the helium drives from WD have been no louder than most non-enterprise air drives I've dealt with in the past. Your enclosure, mounting strategy, closeness to the enclosure, and personal hearing ability are all variables we can't know. FWIW, I don't think these drives are "loud".
He doesn't need a hug. He just needs people to be able to post deals on these drives without someone coming in every single time and commenting that they wouldn't use a used hard drive, followed by pages of arguing on how reliable these are and how much life is left in them. And he's not alone. This gets old
The listing says that is has both a 3 year and 5 year warranty. I sent the seller a message asking for clarity. Ill post back what they say.

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lastwraith
03-20-2024 at 01:54 PM.
03-20-2024 at 01:54 PM.
Quote from megablank :
You say this in every thread.

People buy used cars and if they know what they are buying it can be a decent value.

People have redundant arrays, and things like plex/jellyfin data aren't mission critical data.
For real. awdrifter's "contributions" to these threads could be better served via bot at this point. It's old already.
We get it, you hate used drives and don't think anyone else should use them either. The world doesn't revolve around you.
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avn128
03-20-2024 at 02:31 PM.
03-20-2024 at 02:31 PM.
Quote from kaabob :
Someone mentioned the first year is through square trade and years after till 5year is through seller

So I guess we just gotta trust the sellers ebay account will still be around and the eBay listing? I should probably go a head and take a screenshot of the listing.
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vbgregg
03-20-2024 at 04:22 PM.
03-20-2024 at 04:22 PM.
I bought 6 of these drives. The hours ranged from 16,840 to 27,521 (1.9 to 3.1 years), which was a pleasant surprise compared to the 5 years that was mentioned in the ad. All of mine worked fine out of the box, without the special power cable (in an external disk array connected to my mac). I ran a long test with 3 passes of read/write (using SoftRAID's certification option), which took a little over 4 days. No errors were reported for the first 4 drives (and the other 2 drives are running now).
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awdrifter
03-20-2024 at 06:00 PM.
03-20-2024 at 06:00 PM.
Quote from megablank :
You say this in every thread.

People buy used cars and if they know what they are buying it can be a decent value.

People have redundant arrays, and things like plex/jellyfin data aren't mission critical data.
Yes. Because every thread misrepresent these as "refurbished" hard drives when the only thing the seller did is erasing the data. I do agree that these are fine for non-critical data. If SD staff would put a pinned comment pointing out that these drives are used and no internal parts have been replaced or refurbished, I wouldn't need to post this message in every thread.
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03-20-2024 at 06:25 PM.
03-20-2024 at 06:25 PM.
Quote from awdrifter :
Pretty much this. You're buying a 5 years old USED hard drives that are more than half way through their typical life. So they are likely to fail within the 5 year warranty period.
After buying 6 used enterprise drives. I am never buying new mechanical drives. 2 is better than 1. Chances of 2 drives failing at the same time is much lower than 1 drive.

For SSD and NVME, I wouldn't buy used. These have shorter lifespans and will die much earlier.
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dtphoto
03-20-2024 at 10:44 PM.
03-20-2024 at 10:44 PM.
Quote from lastwraith :
Since you quoted me, did you address item #2 in my rant?
Make sure PWDIS isn't your problem. If the drive is detected, it shouldn't be, but easy enough to be sure of by taping the connector and/or using a molex adapter temporarily.

Edit - Nevermind, I see you're good.
I'm good if I keep using the external USB drive adapter, but I would prefer the drive to be mounted in the tower. After initializing and formatting (18 hours) and transferring 5TB of data from the drive it will be replacing, I mounted it internally...and the computer started crashing with blue or green screens. I am using the SATA to [special] SATA adapter, but I'll try one of my Molex to SATA adapters next. Thanks!
I wasn't sure what was meant by taping a connector. The SATA contacts are so tiny...not sure how I'd isolate one pin with tape.
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dtphoto
03-20-2024 at 10:47 PM.
03-20-2024 at 10:47 PM.
Quote from dtphoto :
I'm good if I keep using the external USB drive adapter, but I would prefer the drive to be mounted in the tower. After initializing and formatting (18 hours) and transferring 5TB of data from the drive it will be replacing, I mounted it internally...and the computer started crashing with blue or green screens. I am using the SATA to [special] SATA adapter, but I'll try one of my Molex to SATA adapters next. Thanks!
I wasn't sure what was meant by taping a connector. The SATA contacts are so tiny...not sure how I'd isolate one pin with tape.
I found more details here...definitely seems like a PWDIS issue, since I have older equipment that is unaware of the newer spec's:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news...36146.html
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megablank
03-20-2024 at 11:13 PM.
03-20-2024 at 11:13 PM.
Quote from theshopper2022 :
After buying 6 used enterprise drives. I am never buying new mechanical drives. 2 is better than 1. Chances of 2 drives failing at the same time is much lower than 1 drive.

For SSD and NVME, I wouldn't buy used. These have shorter lifespans and will die much earlier.
Even ssds can be ok, the best buy samsung refurbs tend to be low write returns.
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lastwraith
03-22-2024 at 10:35 AM.
03-22-2024 at 10:35 AM.
Quote from awdrifter :
Yes. Because every thread misrepresent these as "refurbished" hard drives when the only thing the seller did is erasing the data. I do agree that these are fine for non-critical data. If SD staff would put a pinned comment pointing out that these drives are used and no internal parts have been replaced or refurbished, I wouldn't need to post this message in every thread.
Do you complain about refurbished computers in every thread too? Most computer refurbishers (including Dell btw), simply wipe drives and reload the OS. On their laptops they will also sometimes add a sticker to the lid. That's it.
Does it matter if everything works..... No.

Do you want someone trying to open a helium drive that's welded shut..... Hell no.

Your complaints are ridiculous and tiring.
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lastwraith
03-22-2024 at 10:39 AM.
03-22-2024 at 10:39 AM.
Quote from dtphoto :
I found more details here...definitely seems like a PWDIS issue, since I have older equipment that is unaware of the newer spec's:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news...36146.html
Yes, you would want a crimped (not molded) Molex adapter to "defeat" PWDIS.

Alternatively, you can tape or snip the pin with no special tools. I used a razor blade and blue painter's tape that worked for years until I snipped the pin later. Not a big deal. Google 3.3v pin mod or check this - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www...._page=true
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vivisimonvi
03-22-2024 at 02:09 PM.
03-22-2024 at 02:09 PM.
Pretty sure this drive has PWDIS as it wasn't working in anything until I plugged in the special cable hooked up in my tower. It didn't want to power up on my very old USB dock until I initialized and formatted it. Special cable didn't work through another very old SATAtoUSB device though. Are normal docks supposed to bypass PWDIS? Curious why it wasn't showing up at all at first.

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HDDScan [hddscan.com]
My web browser flagged this download containing malware or a virus (HDDScan.zip). I've never actually seen this before downloading anything but just fyi.
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03-22-2024 at 03:45 PM.
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Quote from vivisimonvi :
Pretty sure this drive has PWDIS as it wasn't working in anything until I plugged in the special cable hooked up in my tower. It didn't want to power up on my very old USB dock until I initialized and formatted it. Special cable didn't work through another very old SATAtoUSB device though. Are normal docks supposed to bypass PWDIS? Curious why it wasn't showing up at all at first.



My web browser flagged this download containing malware or a virus (HDDScan.zip). I've never actually seen this before downloading anything but just fyi.
Initializing and/or formatting the drive have no relation to PWDIS. With a PWDIS mismatch, the drive is essentially continuously powering off and on because that's the signal being relayed by the PSU in the drive's opinion.
They probably should have swapped the PWDIS signal standard, but they didn't, so here we are.

The drive power cycles (or maybe in some configurations doesn't even attempt to spin up - not sure, never seen that particular outcome) and offers the BIOS/UEFI virtually no chance to detect the drive, let alone the OS.
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03-22-2024 at 04:45 PM.
03-22-2024 at 04:45 PM.
Quote from vivisimonvi :
Pretty sure this drive has PWDIS as it wasn't working in anything until I plugged in the special cable hooked up in my tower. It didn't want to power up on my very old USB dock until I initialized and formatted it. Special cable didn't work through another very old SATAtoUSB device though. Are normal docks supposed to bypass PWDIS? Curious why it wasn't showing up at all at first.
Based on the model number, this drive does have Power Disable support. I don't think many USB docks/adapters provide 3.3V, so they're unlikely to be affected by the Power Disable issue.
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03-23-2024 at 09:07 AM.
03-23-2024 at 09:07 AM.
I ordered two. Mine show ~1390 days and 45 start stop cycles. Running through a full surface test now.
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vivisimonvi
03-23-2024 at 11:13 AM.
03-23-2024 at 11:13 AM.
Quote from MWink :
Based on the model number, this drive does have Power Disable support. I don't think many USB docks/adapters provide 3.3V, so they're unlikely to be affected by the Power Disable issue.
There's definitely something preventing this drive from starting up on three different docks. Took about 8 tries for it to register on one after I already formatted it. I at least want to try that tape mod to see if that helps and I'll want to put it a tower without that adapter attached.
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