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Refurb: 12TB HGST Ultrastar He12 7.2K RPM SATA 3.5" Internal Hard Drive + 5yr Warranty Expired

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goHardDrive via eBay has 12TB HGST Ultrastar He12 7.2K RPM 6Gb/s SATA 3.5 Internal Hard Drive (Certified Refurbished, HUH721212ALE601) + 5-Year Seller Warranty on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member ServError for finding this deal
  • Note: Includes a 1-Year Allstate Warranty + a 5-Year Warranty from the Reseller.
Specs:
  • 12TB Internal Capacity
  • Ultrastar He12 Series
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • SATA 6Gb/s Interface
  • 256MB Cache
  • 7.2K RPM Spindle Speed
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For those of us who wanted goHardDrive's 5 year warranty on a 12TB HGST drive, the price has finally dropped to $80 matching what we saw from SPD.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156046813385
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Seriously, so tired of the same garbage being posted in every thread.
Just to get the rest of the nonsense out of the way :
1) Yes, it's a lot of data to potentially lose so don't be a moron and DO have a backup strategy if it's data you care about.
2) These drives potentially support PWDIS so make sure you do the 3.3v mod and tape or snip the pin if you have a drive that supports PWDIS but a PSU that doesn't. You can also use a Molex to SATA adapter, but use the crimped ones and not the molded ones since the molded ones can burn up.
3) Yes, they don't ACTUALLY refurbish the drive. Do you know how many places are equipped with a clean room to take apart drives and do actual refurbishing? I don't, but I do know that I don't want some random third party opening my HDD before they sell it to me. Slapping a sticker on it, doing a format or secure erase, and even blanking SMART is about all the refurbishing I require on an HDD. Or a PC for that matter.
4) Yes, these drives have a good number of hours on them. Yes, enterprise drive MTBF numbers are insanely high but don't necessarily guarantee a long life. Lots of hours doesn't necessarily mean a shorter lifespan either. If you can't handle that and would rather pay retail..... bye.
5) Yeo, these CAN be louder than normal drives. But honestly, the helium drives from WD have been no louder than most non-enterprise air drives I've dealt with in the past. Your enclosure, mounting strategy, closeness to the enclosure, and personal hearing ability are all variables we can't know. FWIW, I don't think these drives are "loud".
He doesn't need a hug. He just needs people to be able to post deals on these drives without someone coming in every single time and commenting that they wouldn't use a used hard drive, followed by pages of arguing on how reliable these are and how much life is left in them. And he's not alone. This gets old
The listing says that is has both a 3 year and 5 year warranty. I sent the seller a message asking for clarity. Ill post back what they say.

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cockadoodle
03-15-2024 at 08:10 PM.
03-15-2024 at 08:10 PM.
Quote from stephentam615 :
Does anyone know if I can use one as a regular SATA hd?
Yes. It is SATA interface.
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BalkiBartokomous
03-15-2024 at 08:49 PM.
03-15-2024 at 08:49 PM.
Quote from stephentam615 :
Does anyone know if I can use one as a regular SATA hd?
Yes, just use the included cable or the drive won't fire up.
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MWink
03-15-2024 at 11:14 PM.
03-15-2024 at 11:14 PM.
Quote from stephentam615 :
Does anyone know if I can use one as a regular SATA hd?
Yes.

Quote from boball :
Do you have a link to the program you use to scan for bad sectors?

HDDScan [hddscan.com]

Victoria [majorgeeks.com]

Quote from lastwraith :
Only anecdotal reports from random users online who had drives with slowly decreasing SMART helium values whose drives still functioned.

And an older BackBlaze report that mentioned one helium drive with decreasing values that still worked. Perhaps they have newer data on their helium drives that shows some with decreasing values, but I didn't look that hard because I'm not worried about this.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/he...ure-rates/

Anecdotal random link =
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoar...ium_level/

Those are the best examples, but there are some other less informative examples online.
Thanks. I had seen the Backblaze page. It sounds like their drive just experienced a limited drop in helium level, not a total loss. The Reddit post, while not authoritative, is much more interesting. It's good to hear that a drive may be able to function even after the SMART value drops to 1 (with 25 being considered a failure). I wonder if that drive still has any helium left in it. Unfortunately, I don't think there's any practical way to know.
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captain-joe
03-16-2024 at 02:58 AM.
03-16-2024 at 02:58 AM.
The 5 year warranty is worthless if all the data is lost due to failure!
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03-16-2024 at 03:40 AM.
03-16-2024 at 03:40 AM.
Quote from AnonyM8611 :
Raid 2 huh? Havent ever heard of anyone eve using that

I use 6x4tb in raidz2 for truenas.
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DreamerbyDesign
03-16-2024 at 05:12 AM.
03-16-2024 at 05:12 AM.
Quote from captain-joe :
The 5 year warranty is worthless if all the data is lost due to failure!

Backup is your friend…. This drive or any can and will fail. If you aren't following good backup procedures, you are just waiting to lose your data.
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greymoose
03-16-2024 at 06:50 AM.
03-16-2024 at 06:50 AM.
Quote from captain-joe :
The 5 year warranty is worthless if all the data is lost due to failure!
The same can be said of any drive with any warranty. Your comment is not unique to this deal. Backup is always a good idea no matter the drive.
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VioletRaccoon567
03-16-2024 at 07:12 AM.
03-16-2024 at 07:12 AM.
Is the warranty from seller or HGST?
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zyberwoof
03-16-2024 at 08:29 AM.
03-16-2024 at 08:29 AM.
Quote from AnonyM8611 :
Raid 2 huh? Havent ever heard of anyone eve using that
raidz2. This is similar to traditional RAID6. The difference being it is software RAID and has extra features provided by ZFS. There is also raidz1 and raidz3. In the case of raidz, the number at the end indicates how many drives can fail without losing the whole array.
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zyberwoof
03-16-2024 at 08:43 AM.
03-16-2024 at 08:43 AM.
Quote from captain-joe :
The 5 year warranty is worthless if all the data is lost due to failure!
The 5 year warranty is fantastic if you have a strong data solution overall.

I've seen plenty argue that these drives may be as reliable or more than new consumer drives. But for the sake of argument, let's just pretend that these are way less reliable. Making up numbers, let's pretend that the new consumer drive has a 1% chance of failing this year and these used drives have a 5% chance each.

We already stated that the new drive has a 1% chance of failing. So you've got a 1% chance of losing all of your data.

These drives are probably half the cost or less than a new consumer drive. So you can realistically purchase 2 of them instead of 1. Now you've got a drive performing backups. The odds of both 5% drives failing this year is 0.25%. This means you are much more likely to lose all of your data with the much more reliable single drive than with 2 less reliable ones.

I made up the 1% and 5% numbers. I suspect, at least for the duration of the warranty, that the odds of failure are much closer together. They might even be better for the used enterprise drive.

If your data is important, I'd suggest you start by looking up the 3-2-1 backup model. That requires at least 3 drives. Or 2 drives and some other cost like a subscription to a cloud provider.
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Amerijapoxicano
03-16-2024 at 08:48 AM.
03-16-2024 at 08:48 AM.
I bought 7 of these. I ain't NEVER scared! All you meek techies who tremble before a refurbished hard drive...I hear platters crunching and I fear not for I have several backups.
If you know your strengths and your weaknesses, in 100 archival pursuits you shall lose no files.
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03-16-2024 at 09:25 AM.
03-16-2024 at 09:25 AM.
Quote from greymoose :
Nothing on the Newegg site mentions the 5-year warranty. It also states no accessories. The Ebay listing mentions warranty and the reviews say that the drive included Power Disable Adapter.

FWIW....

You can email the seller to confirm, but it's 5 years from Newegg too as I've confirmed.
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03-16-2024 at 10:13 AM.
03-16-2024 at 10:13 AM.
Quote from sakaria :
Any suggestions on a dock or enclosure for these?
I would recommend a dock for 3.5 inch drives. This way you can hoard drives and hot swap when needed.

Something like this would do the job if you need a brand name.
SATA External Hard drive Docking [ebay.us]

I personally have this one on my desktop.
USB 3.0 to SATA External Hard drive Docking Station [ebay.us]
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03-16-2024 at 10:50 AM.
03-16-2024 at 10:50 AM.
Quote from BalkiBartokomous :
Yes, just use the included cable or the drive won't fire up.
Thank you! I have another newbie question. Do these drives power down while my computer is on to save energy or do they keep running?
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03-16-2024 at 11:09 AM.
03-16-2024 at 11:09 AM.
Hi MWink!!
Do you know how to scan for bad sectors two drives that are in a RAID 1 mirroring setup? If we run one these programs like HDDScan and Victoria, would they scan both the drives for bad sectors? Or do I have to remove the drives from the RAID setup and scan them individually? Thank you.
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