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Pioneer 12000 BTU 20.8 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump System

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Home Depot has Pioneer 12000 BTU 1-Ton 20.8 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump Variable Speed DC Inverter+ System (110/120V, WYS012AMFI20RL-16) on sale for $708. Select free ship to store for pickup where available.

Home Depot also has Pioneer 12000 BTU 1-Ton 21.4 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump Variable Speed DC Inverter+ System (208/230V, WYS012GMFI20RL-16) on sale for $689. Select free ship to store for pickup where available.

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Home Depot has Pioneer 12000 BTU 1-Ton 20.8 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump Variable Speed DC Inverter+ System (110/120V, WYS012AMFI20RL-16) on sale for $708. Select free ship to store for pickup where available.

Home Depot also has Pioneer 12000 BTU 1-Ton 21.4 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump Variable Speed DC Inverter+ System (208/230V, WYS012GMFI20RL-16) on sale for $689. Select free ship to store for pickup where available.

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iota
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I have purchased and installed multiple Pioneer units from eBay seller HIGHSEER which I suspect is also the seller of these items on home depot.

The pioneer units are great. They are nearly identical to other pre-charged mini splits so I suspect that they are all made in the same factory.

Installation is easy if you are a DIY'er enough to know how to drill a hole all the way through an exterior wall and how to handle wiring up basic 220v electrical. I imagine that the cost to have a pro install would be $500-$1000 depending on your area.

My oldest Pioneer unit has been running for 7 years and started to not cool as much. I had an HVAC guy come out and he said it was low on refrigerant and added some. I would suspect that my DIY install resulted in a minor slow leak somewhere but otherwise my units have all run great without issue. We use them in outbuildings on our large property.

There are multiple versions / editions of wifi controllers available for these units, the latest ones which use the Midea Air app seem to be the best. You can get parts and controllers on Amazon or Highseer eBay.

Install a line hider as you do the initial install or you'll find it's a pain to do later. Also don't forget when measuring your line length that you need to go through the wall and have extra to tuck in around the indoor and outdoor units; a 16' line set should be enough for anything on a standard house as long as the outdoor unit is on the other side of the wall as the indoor unit. You can shorten the line if needed.

You'll need a vacuum pump and an adapter. Adapter can be found on Amazon (forgive me I forgot the size but I want to say 5/16?) and vacuum pump can be rented or borrowed from an auto parts store for free or cheap.

The units come pre charged with refrigerant (Freon or whatever you call it locally). After you connect the indoor and outdoor unit with the supplied line and it's all tight, you attach a vacuum pump to a little service port on the outdoor unit and run it to basically draw out any moisture or air in the line. Run it for 4x as long as the install manual tells you to.

After that you unhook the vacuum pump, turn a valve which releases the stored refrigerant inside of the outdoor unit into the line, and you're ready to go.

These things rule
supremo13
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Amazing info. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this.
Banana_Fly
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It is just to clean the old lineset, flash out old oil… there is no other solution but to go and buy vacuum pump. 3cfm 2 stage Harbor freight vacuum pump pulls as low at 8 microns, in real life it pulled 160 microns while installing a mini split, which is great for a budget $140 pump. For proper installation you will need a torque wrench, flaring tool set, proper HVAC manifold for 410a to measure the final pressures (Pioneer requires to write it down in the manual for warranty), and a digital vacuum gauge for a standing vacuum test. You can sure do a hack job without vacuuming and torque wrench, some people just purge air by releasing R410a (which is illegal), but I'm talking about proper steps that are outlined in the installation manual. Don't forget a dedicated circuit breaker required for mini split and a disconnect that it is installed next to the outdoor unit. It is required by code, 120v or 240v. In general this is why 120v units don't make much sense - 240v are more efficient and require the same effort to install. If what I'm saying makes no sense to you you need to watch more YouTube videos

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jkloisdafoiwdafMar 17, 2024 11:40 AM
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what is the reasonable labor cost to get this installed?
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EagerActivity1630Mar 17, 2024 11:42 AM
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Dont forget Many chase cards have 10% off of $540.

How often do these pioneer units on deal of the day? Or is this so rare that i should jump on it and hold the units for future installation? Thank you sd. Tu
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Quote from EagerActivity1630 :
Dont forget Many chase cards have 10% off of ≈$580.

How often do these pioneer units on deal of the day? Or is this so rare that i should jump on it and hold the units for future installation? Thank you sd. Tu
Max 54 dollars off so will be 658. Seems like a decent price. We have a pool bath and wash room that has an old unit. I can easily replace it but will have to hire someone to do the vaccum.
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EagerActivity1630Mar 17, 2024 12:32 PM
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How is the WYS012GMFI22RL (122) different from the WYS012GMFI20RL (120)? Thank you. Are these pioneers best models?
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GAthensMar 17, 2024 12:32 PM
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We've successfully installed 3 Senville units. How does the Pioneer unit compare to Senville in terms of
- ease of installation
- durability
?

Thanks!
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GAthensMar 17, 2024 12:34 PM
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also how does pioneer compared to off brands on ebay? if anybody knows about the installationand durability on these.
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Pretty good deal. Repped.

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iotaMar 17, 2024 01:32 PM
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank iota

I have purchased and installed multiple Pioneer units from eBay seller HIGHSEER which I suspect is also the seller of these items on home depot.

The pioneer units are great. They are nearly identical to other pre-charged mini splits so I suspect that they are all made in the same factory.

Installation is easy if you are a DIY'er enough to know how to drill a hole all the way through an exterior wall and how to handle wiring up basic 220v electrical. I imagine that the cost to have a pro install would be $500-$1000 depending on your area.

My oldest Pioneer unit has been running for 7 years and started to not cool as much. I had an HVAC guy come out and he said it was low on refrigerant and added some. I would suspect that my DIY install resulted in a minor slow leak somewhere but otherwise my units have all run great without issue. We use them in outbuildings on our large property.

There are multiple versions / editions of wifi controllers available for these units, the latest ones which use the Midea Air app seem to be the best. You can get parts and controllers on Amazon or Highseer eBay.

Install a line hider as you do the initial install or you'll find it's a pain to do later. Also don't forget when measuring your line length that you need to go through the wall and have extra to tuck in around the indoor and outdoor units; a 16' line set should be enough for anything on a standard house as long as the outdoor unit is on the other side of the wall as the indoor unit. You can shorten the line if needed.

You'll need a vacuum pump and an adapter. Adapter can be found on Amazon (forgive me I forgot the size but I want to say 5/16?) and vacuum pump can be rented or borrowed from an auto parts store for free or cheap.

The units come pre charged with refrigerant (Freon or whatever you call it locally). After you connect the indoor and outdoor unit with the supplied line and it's all tight, you attach a vacuum pump to a little service port on the outdoor unit and run it to basically draw out any moisture or air in the line. Run it for 4x as long as the install manual tells you to.

After that you unhook the vacuum pump, turn a valve which releases the stored refrigerant inside of the outdoor unit into the line, and you're ready to go.

These things rule
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Quote from EagerActivity1630 :
How is the WYS012GMFI22RL (122) different from the WYS012GMFI20RL (120)? Thank you. Are these pioneers best models?
20 SEER vs 22 SEER?
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Maz180Mar 17, 2024 01:56 PM
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What refrigerant does this use?
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beervomitMar 17, 2024 01:57 PM
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Can the lines on these things be extended?
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supremo13Mar 17, 2024 01:58 PM
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Quote from iota :
I have purchased and installed multiple Pioneer units from eBay seller HIGHSEER which I suspect is also the seller of these items on home depot.

The pioneer units are great. They are nearly identical to other pre-charged mini splits so I suspect that they are all made in the same factory.

Installation is easy if you are a DIY'er enough to know how to drill a hole all the way through an exterior wall and how to handle wiring up basic 220v electrical. I imagine that the cost to have a pro install would be $500-$1000 depending on your area.

My oldest Pioneer unit has been running for 7 years and started to not cool as much. I had an HVAC guy come out and he said it was low on refrigerant and added some. I would suspect that my DIY install resulted in a minor slow leak somewhere but otherwise my units have all run great without issue. We use them in outbuildings on our large property.

There are multiple versions / editions of wifi controllers available for these units, the latest ones which use the Midea Air app seem to be the best. You can get parts and controllers on Amazon or Highseer eBay.

Install a line hider as you do the initial install or you'll find it's a pain to do later. Also don't forget when measuring your line length that you need to go through the wall and have extra to tuck in around the indoor and outdoor units; a 16' line set should be enough for anything on a standard house as long as the outdoor unit is on the other side of the wall as the indoor unit. You can shorten the line if needed.

You'll need a vacuum pump and an adapter. Adapter can be found on Amazon (forgive me I forgot the size but I want to say 5/16?) and vacuum pump can be rented or borrowed from an auto parts store for free or cheap.

The units come pre charged with refrigerant (Freon or whatever you call it locally). After you connect the indoor and outdoor unit with the supplied line and it's all tight, you attach a vacuum pump to a little service port on the outdoor unit and run it to basically draw out any moisture or air in the line. Run it for 4x as long as the install manual tells you to.

After that you unhook the vacuum pump, turn a valve which releases the stored refrigerant inside of the outdoor unit into the line, and you're ready to go.

These things rule
Amazing info. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this.
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Quote from GAthens :
We've successfully installed 3 Senville units. How does the Pioneer unit compare to Senville in terms of
- ease of installation
- durability
?

Thanks!
I have had my pioneer (I think the same model) for 5 about years and have moved it once and recharged it some before the winter all working fine through this winter and last summer. Pretty easy to install if you have the tools. (Vacuum pump and gauges) You tube has many videos.

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IndigoTexture397Mar 17, 2024 02:16 PM
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Looks like Pioneer has a solution for pulling a vacuum on these units, and it is cheap.

I have not tried it. I don't know if this evacuated can has the volume to pull the correct vacuum on this line set or not. Just found it interesting that is is something HD recommends for the purchase.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pione.../314537728

The Mr Cool DIY system I installed a couple years ago was extremely simple, the lines on those a systems come with the vacuum already pulled, opening the valve pierces the end and allow the freon to charge the line.. (Provided you can cut a hole through the wall and wire a dedicated 220v circuit.)

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