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The Smartest House Home Automation Spring Sale: Zooz 800 Z-Wave Remote Switch Expired

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The Smartest House is hosting their Smartest House Home Automation Spring Sale listed below. Shipping is free on orders $99+, otherwise, shipping starts at ~$10.42 (via USPS Ground Advantage)

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The Smartest House [thesmartesthouse.com] is having their spring sale through 3/26. Many deals on ZWave devices, mostly 800 series LR chips. My particular recommendations are the ZEN34 and ZEN37 remotes ($18 and $24 respectively) which are incredibly handy devices. Also lots of wired switches, relays, and controllers. Free shipping at $99.
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They have never offered free shipping on any order. Granted it used to be $50 like 2 years ago.

I'll let you in on a little secret, companies that offer free shipping just build it into the price of the product.
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Well, it can be argued that since Z-wave is mesh based, there's some value on focusing on one platform (more nodes == stronger mesh with more reliability/range). With that said, most controller platforms (SmartThings, Hubitat, Home Assistant, etc.) all support multiple so running multiple protocols isn't a huge issue.
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eh. Why not run both?

I've got zigbee, zwave, wifi and matter devices. No issues with any of them.
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03-19-2024 at 05:53 PM.
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Sure, but $99 as a threshold is insulting. This always comes up, and fans/shills for this company always defend them.

It's true, Z-Wave is getting killed by the dominant platforms, gotta accept that. The old-timers will keep resisting SmartThings and Matter until...well...ya know.
I mean, you're always free to buy from Amazon and pay a higher price per device but get free shipping if you shell out $140 for prime...

Getting killed doesn't mean inferior product. 4K blurays are getting killed by streaming yet are a far superior A/V experience. Many people don't know any better and set up Google Home or Alexa because they're easy and ubiquitous....much like a Netflix account. But your last sentence doesn't even make sense. SmartThings and Matter aren't competitors to Z-Wave. Z-Wave is a radio technology. SmartThings is an automation hub. And Matter is a "unifying" protocol. It's like saying "these old-timers who keep insisting on watching free OTA TV are being killed by HDMI and OLED."

Z-Wave devices have many advantages for home automation purposes over WiFi. SmartThings was a popular hub but many (superior) alternatives have sprung up in the past decade...and those are superior to Google Home and Alexa. And Matter is...well, a thing that attempts to solve a problem that Z-wave with a good hub doesn't have. Matter's basically engineers throwing in the towel and trying their best to make people who don't know what they're doing and just buy a bunch of random devices happy.
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03-19-2024 at 05:59 PM.
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I need a no neutral 3 way switch .. 3 way means 2 switches controlling 1 light right?

Does that exist on this site?
3way indeed means two switches for one socket. You can email Zooz CS about your question. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of their products but I think they might all require a neutral. You might be able to use one of the relays, however. Zooz is actually really helpful with wiring questions.
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SmartThings almost dominates the entire HA space and old-timey hobbyists are in denial about it, because they like to tinker with old tech.
Uh...what?
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hi, what can I use to bypass my pole light daylight sensor? something that will fit in that outdoor box where I can put a schedule on it would be great. my sensor is covered by some plants so in the summer it doesn't work as intended. thanks
Do you have a home automation hub? If so, you could wire a relay to your pole light and then use the hub to control it ie by setting a schedule or pairing a different light sensor that's not blocked by plants to it.
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Have a combo of zig, wifi, matter all thru St and never had a problem..I'll consider myself lucky since always hearing of headaches. Suppose it depends on size of house, and few dozen or 100+ things.
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Where do they even sell the aeotec version?
Amazon
https://a.co/d/0kWPO7M

Aeotec directly
https://smartmatters.co/collectio...s-aeohubv3
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Have a combo of zig, wifi, matter all thru St and never had a problem..I'll consider myself lucky since always hearing of headaches. Suppose it depends on size of house, and few dozen or 100+ things.
My issue with Samsung/SmartThings is when they changed the frontend years ago and broke 70% of my custom stuff, with no intention of getting any of it working again. The constant threats of the IDE not being supported and shutdown, along with custom devices.
Samsung is a bit to willy nilly with their decision making for my taste, especially when it comes to interfaces and stepping away from them… like with the ST Hub that Aeotec now makes, they could easily just wake up one day and say "nope, don't want it anymore!", and you're left to find another solution because the ST app will no longer work with the hub.

But I totally understand why, for the average Joe, ST and WiFi devices are the way to go… it's just easy to setup and maintain. If you're not doing a lot of custom stuff or aren't an analytics nerd (I do love a good dataset!!!), the IDE level stuff is meaningless.
I'm not one of those "HomeAssistant is easy to setup!!!" guys, cause it ain't… it's all the stupids of Linux, plus OpenSource crap on top. Win, win, win 😂. And yeah, I have HA running in a VM on my Linux server… once setup correctly and chugging, it's fantastic. But getting there, not so much.
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My issue with Samsung/SmartThings is when they changed the frontend years ago and broke 70% of my custom stuff, with no intention of getting any of it working again. The constant threats of the IDE not being supported and shutdown, along with custom devices.
Samsung is a bit to willy nilly with their decision making for my taste, especially when it comes to interfaces and stepping away from them… like with the ST Hub that Aeotec now makes, they could easily just wake up one day and say "nope, don't want it anymore!", and you're left to find another solution because the ST app will no longer work with the hub.

But I totally understand why, for the average Joe, ST and WiFi devices are the way to go… it's just easy to setup and maintain. If you're not doing a lot of custom stuff or aren't an analytics nerd (I do love a good dataset!!!), the IDE level stuff is meaningless.
I'm not one of those "HomeAssistant is easy to setup!!!" guys, cause it ain't… it's all the stupids of Linux, plus OpenSource crap on top. Win, win, win 😂. And yeah, I have HA running in a VM on my Linux server… once setup correctly and chugging, it's fantastic. But getting there, not so much.

"yeah, I have HA running in a VM on my Linux server… once setup correctly and chugging, it's fantastic. But getting there, not so much."

Have any hairs left your head?!! 🙈
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Amazon
https://a.co/d/0kWPO7M

Aeotec directly
https://smartmatters.co/collectio...s-aeohubv3
Odd. I searched for it on Amazon and only got third party sellers.
This listing didn't show up for me.
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Quote from ThirstyCruz :
"yeah, I have HA running in a VM on my Linux server… once setup correctly and chugging, it's fantastic. But getting there, not so much."

Have any hairs left your head?!! 🙈
HA is surprisingly not as hard to setup as people make it out to be.

It's just a little confusing at first but once you figure out where everything is, it's pretty straightforward
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My issue with Samsung/SmartThings is when they changed the frontend years ago and broke 70% of my custom stuff, with no intention of getting any of it working again. The constant threats of the IDE not being supported and shutdown, along with custom devices.
Samsung is a bit to willy nilly with their decision making for my taste, especially when it comes to interfaces and stepping away from them… like with the ST Hub that Aeotec now makes, they could easily just wake up one day and say "nope, don't want it anymore!", and you're left to find another solution because the ST app will no longer work with the hub.

But I totally understand why, for the average Joe, ST and WiFi devices are the way to go… it's just easy to setup and maintain. If you're not doing a lot of custom stuff or aren't an analytics nerd (I do love a good dataset!!!), the IDE level stuff is meaningless.
I'm not one of those "HomeAssistant is easy to setup!!!" guys, cause it ain't… it's all the stupids of Linux, plus OpenSource crap on top. Win, win, win . And yeah, I have HA running in a VM on my Linux server… once setup correctly and chugging, it's fantastic. But getting there, not so much.
Exactly. This is also an issue with Google Home and (less so) Alexa. When you're using a standalone(not cloud-based) hub like HA, Hubitat, the Zooz box, etc, you're not at the whim of a third party company. You have local control and can make backups so if they ever push an update that breaks things, you can just roll back to an earlier version that works. Plus, if your internet goes down, your house still functions. I know ST eventually added local control but it still seems to be a bit wonky in its implementation from what I gather.
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Odd. I searched for it on Amazon and only got third party sellers.
This listing didn't show up for me.
Amazon is super odd with some listings… it's like they hide somethings for whatever reason. I just went to Aeotec's site, then where to buy.
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Sure, but $99 as a threshold is insulting. This always comes up, and fans/shills for this company always defend them.

It's true, Z-Wave is getting killed by the dominant platforms, gotta accept that. The old-timers will keep resisting SmartThings and Matter until...well...ya know.
Matter is Beta, at best. at this point in time.

XKCD already foresaw this:
https://xkcd.com/927/​
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Agreed.... bought the Zen32 on the last sale. It has made it SOOOO much easier for my partner (who just moved in) to control all the various scenes in the kitchen/dining area, that she now wants one in every major room to control all the lights.
I literally just bought 10 to put throughout the house... easy enough to do and you can use the lights to indicate things.

I have one in my kitchen -use the lights to indicate when the home alarm is armed (instant) or armed (home). False alarms are now a thing of the past.
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