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I have this particular wok. It is REALLY REALLY heavy for a wok. You won't be able to comfortably toss your food unless you have very strong arms. They way this was designed was probably meant to be left stationary.

Also, if you plan to use a carbon steel wok, make sure you have a professional-grade range hood. Because carbon steel wok requires a large amount of oil and high heat to stay non-stick, it will produce a lot of oil vapors which will leave your kitchen greasy.

Lastly, the average family-oriented range tops won't be hot enough to fully utilize carbon steel woks.

So, unless you are actually sure you need it, the average consumers are better off getting a non-stick wok instead.
Use your oven instead of trying to do it on the range. Hopefully the handle is removeable. If not it needs to be protected (i.e. wrapped in a wet rag then wrapped in foil). Here are a couple options for instructions.

https://mammafong.com/blogs/mamma...d-revealed

https://www.vietworldkitchen.com/...a-wok.html
Woks are meant for very high heat, which no nonstick coating can tolerate. Skip any nonstick wok no matter the price. Carbon steel is the perfect material for a wok.

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03-22-2024 at 01:12 PM.
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Well, in one year, I might eat a very tiny amount of teflon, if any at all, you will eat a cup or two worth of carcinogenic acrylamide. I don't know about you, I'd rather have a tiny bit of teflon pass through my body than eat a cup of acrylamide.

I prefer not to cook outside. I have a kitchen and I like to cook in my kitchen. If I regularly cook outside, then I might consider using my CS cookware more often.

I replace my teflon wok every year. You don't replace your CS wok but use much more oil. It will actually come out roughly even money-wise. But then again, it sounds like you don't actually care about cancer risks, so you can save $20 by reusing the same oil each time you heat your wok. Chinese restaurants replace this roughly weekly or biweekly.

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way off, once it's seasoned then food doesn't stick and then you don't have to use a lot of oil. Love to hear people speaking as if they're spent 10 years in university and residency and are now a full fledged doctor. and what things cause cancer? everything, according to the state of california. everytime you eat any food, you are eating things that are poisonous to humans, the majority of those poisons get flushed down the john. They said potatoes, tomatoes and tobacco were all poisons! but they were only right on one of them Big Grin

This just in....everyone in recorded history that has eaten carrots...has died. which is 100 percent true, but it doesn't mean carrots are unhealthy.

and in case you hadn't noticed, that's game set and match: fewlio
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Which teflon wok do you recommend? And interesting point earlier on Chinese chefs being high risk for lung cancer - do you have an article?

Also, what about teflon leeching? Isn't that a concern?

And - here's what I use to coat my wok: https://www.amazon.com/House-Tsan...PDKIKX0DER [amazon.com]
tfal wok is the one I have been using lately. It's nothing fancy, and cheap enough to replace every year. It costs about $15 around black Friday. I replace it often enough that I don't worry about teflon leeching. By the time it's visibly scratched, you should replace.

Relating to lung cancer: you can look up "厨师 肺癌 高危" on any search engine and see plenty of results. This has been extensively studied in China.
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way off, once it's seasoned then food doesn't stick and then you don't have to use a lot of oil. Love to hear people speaking as if they're spent 10 years in university and residency and are now a full fledged doctor. and what things cause cancer? everything, according to the state of california. everytime you eat any food, you are eating things that are poisonous to humans, the majority of those poisons get flushed down the john. They said potatoes, tomatoes and tobacco were all poisons! but they were only right on one of them https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...es/biggrin.gif

This just in....everyone in recorded history that has eaten carrots...has died. which is 100 percent true, but it doesn't mean carrots are unhealthy.

and in case you hadn't noticed, that's game set and match: fewlio
After you season it, each time, you still need to preheat the wok, put oil in, dump out the oil, and put in new oil before cooking to get the non-stick effect. This is common knowledge. I wonder if you actually cook Chinese food or not. Give this video a try: https://youtu.be/Md5VYT1RQSc?si=4...S1QtW&t=98 It will give you a roughly idea. At home cooking doesn't require that much oil, but this is what we do at Chinese restaurants before each dish.

Also, the effects of both Teflon and carcinogenic acrylamide on health have both been extensively studied. You can easily look up studies on them. Google the key terms in google scholar. Even with just a high school diploma, you should be able to understand the articles.

You can obviously buy whatever you want, but please don't spread misinformation.
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After you season it, each time, you still need to preheat the wok, dump out the oil, and put in new oil before cooking to get the non-stick effect. This is common knowledge. I wonder if you actually cook Chinese food or not.

Also, the effects of both Teflon and carcinogenic acrylamide on health have both been extensively studied. You can easily look up studies on them. Google the key terms in google scholar. Even with just a high school diploma, you should be able to understand the articles.

You can obviously buy whatever you want, but please don't spread misinformation.
pretty sure I said less oil, not "no oil"

you are aware that everyone who eats teflon is going to die, right?
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pretty sure I said less oil, not "no oil"

you are aware that everyone who eats teflon is going to die, right?
Did I say no oil? Cooking the same dish, carbon steel woks will consistently use signifcantly more oil each time than non-stick woks. And you'd bring that oil close to smoking point often with carbon steel woks.

Since you seem to have run out of meaningful things to say, let's end it here.
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Carbon steel all day.

Avoid the poisons.
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Did I say no oil? Cooking the same dish, carbon steel woks will consistently use signifcantly more oil each time than non-stick woks. And you'd bring that oil close to smoking point often with carbon steel woks.

Since you seem to have run out of meaningful things to say, let's end it here.
no no let's talk about it. whatever oil sticks to the wok is oil that is not going through your arteries. which is to say if you did put more oil in the wok bc it's getting sucked up by the wok to become more fully seasoned....that is is some greasy crud that is not going down your gizzard. if you put the same amount of oil in a carbon steel and a tefflon, the tefflon batch of food would have more grease in it for precisely this reason. because it's all staying in the food EEK!
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no no let's talk about it. whatever oil sticks to the wok is oil that is not going through your arteries. which is to say if you did put more oil in the wok bc it's getting sucked up by the wok to become more fully seasoned....that is is some greasy crud that is not going down your gizzard. if you put the same amount of oil in a carbon steel and a tefflon, the tefflon batch of food would have more grease in it for precisely this reason. because it's all staying in the food https://static.slickdealscdn.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
1. You don't use the same amount of oil using non-stick vs CS. CS requires significantly more oil than non-stick to stay non-stick.
2. While the CS wok itself will retain a tiny amount of oil; vast majority will go into the food.
3. Unless you wash it with soup each time, carcinogenic acrylamide will build up overtime and be released into your food each time you cook. But if you do wash with soup, you ruin the seasoning.
4. The higher temperature with CS also means you generate more acrylamide.
5. You inhale significantly more oil vapor cooking with carbon steel.

But at this point, I doubt I can change your mind. It would be great if you could stop spreading misinformation though.
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Quote from DavidW7811 :
1. You don't use the same amount of oil using non-stick vs CS. CS requires significantly more oil than non-stick to stay non-stick.
2. While the CS wok itself will retain a tiny amount of oil; vast majority will go into the food.
3. Unless you wash it with soup each time, carcinogenic acrylamide will build up overtime and be released into your food each time you cook. But if you do wash with soup, you ruin the seasoning.
4. The higher temperature with CS also means you generate more acrylamide.
5. You inhale significantly more oil vapor cooking with carbon steel.

But at this point, I doubt I can change your mind. It would be great if you could stop spreading misinformation though.
rinsing and drying is fine, and if you put 2 tbsp of oil in a new teflon and a new cs work...well obviously a lot of that oil will adhere to the cs wok whereas it won't adhere well to the teflon, and thus ss will be greasy and give you more heart attacks

you are aware they used water to move massive bricks and stones over the ground in the ancient world? quit greasing up your food and use some water for heaven's sake
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rinsing and drying is fine, and if you put 2 tbsp of oil in a new teflon and a new cs work...well obviously a lot of that oil will adhere to the cs wok whereas it won't adhere well to the teflon, and thus ss will be greasy and give you more heart attacks

you are aware they used water to move massive bricks and stones in the ancient world? quit greasing up your food and use some water for heaven's sake
Rinsing with water will not effectively wash away all the acrylamide. You need soap for that.
2 tbsp of oil is usually a lot for non-stick, but not enough for CS. Also, only a tiny bit will stick to CS if it's already seasoned. Again, please watch this to get a realistic idea on how much oil Chinese chefs use cooking with CS: https://youtu.be/Md5VYT1RQSc?si=9...dp4K&t=100

You are aware that we are talking about cooking with wok instead of boiling pans, right?
Also, very important, please take note:
1) while your oil is HOT, do NOT put water into your wok.
2) when stir frying Chinese food, please don't add water. That's worse than putting strawberries on Pizza.

Yeah whatever, I'm done. You aren't discussing in good faith anymore.
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Rinsing with water will not effectively wash away all the acrylamide. You need soap for that.
2 tbsp of oil is usually a lot for non-stick, but not enough for CS. Also, only a tiny bit will stick to CS if it's already seasoned.

You are aware that we are talking about cooking with wok instead of boiling pans, right?
Also, very important, please take note:
1) while your oil is HOT, do NOT put water into your wok.
2) when stir frying Chinese food, please don't add water. That's worse than putting strawberries on Pizza.
wrong, put the ingredients in first, and then hit with some water, you'll get an awesome equal distribution of what oil is left after the majority has gone into your lungs

whatever they're using at huhot and the local china buffet...it appears to be mostly water EEK!
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wrong, put the ingredients in first, and then hit with some water, you'll get an awesome equal distribution of what oil is left after the majority has gone into your lungs

whatever they're using at huhot and the local china buffet...it appears to be mostly water https://static.slickdealscdn.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
No thank you. I'd rather use Teflon woks and make healthy delicious Chinese food, than to make whatever abomination you are talking about. If I want soup, I'd make soup. Stirfry isn't soup.
Number 1 thing to keep in mind when stirfrying vegetables is that they are already prone to release water. Success stirfry means cooking them before they release water. Yet you are talking about adding more water?

Holy shit...Bye.
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After you season it, each time, you still need to preheat the wok, put oil in, dump out the oil, and put in new oil before cooking to get the non-stick effect. This is common knowledge. I wonder if you actually cook Chinese food or not. Give this video a try: https://youtu.be/Md5VYT1RQSc?si=4...S1QtW&t=98 [youtu.be] It will give you a roughly idea. At home cooking doesn't require that much oil, but this is what we do at Chinese restaurants before each dish.

Also, the effects of both Teflon and carcinogenic acrylamide on health have both been extensively studied. You can easily look up studies on them. Google the key terms in google scholar. Even with just a high school diploma, you should be able to understand the articles.

You can obviously buy whatever you want, but please don't spread misinformation.
For home cooking where time is not a stress, I use very little oil and I don't dump out the oil after preheat and poor in new oil to cool it down. I simply wait for it to cool down to about 330F. Then I control carefully the power of my induction cooktop (usually 800W) to avoid overheat that will burn out oil and make food stock onto the wok. This way, I can use very little oil with my Lodge cast iron without being sticky.

Also, as fewlio mentioned, I do use little water whenever needed to keep the pan from too hot. This also vastly reduces the chance of sticky and it is usually beneficial to the taste and quality of the cooked food.

From what I read on your posts, your talk is more on commercial cooking and you are right. For daily home cooking, I don't have to do it that way and I much prefer cast iron or carbon steel over non-stick which never last, a huge waste, putting Teflon aside.

I do preheat every time to guarantee non sticky and I do worry about the oil smoke. But on the other hand, natural iron is a very good thing to health, for thousands years.
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This "discussion" is like a microcosm of American society in 2024: two amateurs who've never met each other shouting back and forth about things without expertise or citations.

For the record, I'm no expert, but all these rules being cited are certainly not universal. I "fry" dry-fried string beans in my carbon steel wok with only green beans and salt, at heat levels considered unsafe for Teflon. No oil for the first 15 or so minutes, until after the green beans are cooked and I add the aromatics.
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to be clear, how i like to do it is to put oil in, get it hot, put food items in, then hit it with a few shots of water. water and hot oil aren't a good combination normally, but if you put the food items in and then the water, you get steam and oil popping around in every direction, and it creates a very small particle size. that explosion effect is what makes it work so well, and it's totally safe as long as you do everything in the proper order.
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