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Not only that, but check the stats on Ev's that are totalled after an accident. No one is willing to certify an EV Battery after a repair due to the liability. Of course we also have no real plans on how to dispose of all these batteries which are laced with toxic chemicals....
I love you people like you "hear stories" and then decide that some technology is unworkable. What you're saying is just nonsense. Cars get totaled all the time. Many car models are designed to crumple at speeds over 20mph and that will total them. It has nothing to do with whether the car has a battery or not.
However all EV manufacturers have battery recycling programs. Or… hey, consider this: People steal catalytic converts all the time. Why? Because they contain expensive metals. What else contains expensive metals? Car batteries. Right? The car batteries are more expensive than catalytic converters, because they contain valuable materials which can be recycled, and they are recycled.
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[quote="gmanhdtv2;170106117"]Not only that, but check the stats on Ev's that are totalled after an accident. No one is willing to certify an EV Battery after a repair due to the liability. Of course we also have no real plans on how to dispose of all these batteries which are laced with toxic chemicals....
I love you people like you "hear stories" and then decide that some technology is unworkable. What you're saying is just nonsense. Cars get totaled all the time. Many car models are designed to crumple at speeds over 20mph and that will total them. It has nothing to do with whether the car has a battery or not.
However all EV manufacturers have battery recycling programs. Or… hey, consider this: People steal catalytic converts all the time. Why? Because they contain expensive metals. What else contains expensive metals? Car batteries. Right? You guys say that the car batteries are expensive. That's because they contain valuable materials which can be recycled, and they are recycled.[/quote]
I never said they can't be fixed or compared them to other car part problems. It is a fact EV drivers pay a higher rate for insurance and will continue to do so until insurance companies have enough data to price to market. 99.9% of body shops are unable to touch an EV battery pack for repairs. Lithium is not the future, do your research, it's just a stepping stone.
[quote="gmanhdtv2;170106117"]Not only that but check the stats on Ev's that are totaled after an accident. No one is willing to certify an EV Battery after a repair due to the liability. Of course, we also have no real plans on how to dispose of all these batteries which are laced with toxic chemicals....
I love you people like you "hear stories" and then decide that some technology is unworkable. What you're saying is just nonsense. Cars get totaled all the time. Many car models are designed to crumple at speeds over 20mph and that will total them. It has nothing to do with whether the car has a battery or not.
However all EV manufacturers have battery recycling programs. Or… hey, consider this: People steal catalytic converts all the time. Why? Because they contain expensive metals. What else contains expensive metals? Car batteries. Right? You guys say that the car batteries are expensive. That's because they contain valuable materials which can be recycled, and they are recycled.
I never said they can't be fixed or compared them to other car part problems. It is a fact EV drivers pay a higher rate for insurance and will continue to do so until insurance companies have enough data to price to market. 99.9% of body shops are unable to touch an EV battery pack for repairs. Lithium is not the future, do your research, it's just a stepping stone.
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I live in Massachusetts, what incentives are you talking about? Can you be more specific?
$4k federal used ev rebate + $5k state MOR-EV+ rebate works on used EV's. Went to McGovern Hyundai in Brockton for point of sale discount that reduced sales tax.
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Not only that, but check the stats on Ev's that are totalled after an accident. No one is willing to certify an EV Battery after a repair due to the liability.
False.
Here, for example is a story about the program Tesla has specifically to inspect and certify repaired batteries
Of course we also have no real plans on how to dispose of all these batteries which are laced with toxic chemicals....
As already explained- they are recycled. There's not only "already plans" to do that- Tesla has recycled 100% of batteries that have ever come back them- going back years.
There's multiple large companies who specifically do this work for other car companies as well.
Literally every post you've made here is factually untrue and easily debunked.
What, specifically, are you trying to accomplish doing that so consistently?
$4k federal used ev rebaate + $5k state MOR-EV+ rebate works on used EV's. Went to McGovern Hyundai in Brockton for point of sale discount that reduced sales tax.
And who pays for those rebates? All of us taxpayers.
Roughly 2/3rds of americans, right now, live in detached single family homes or similar.
Add in folks in duplexes with garages or driveways, apartments with garages, apartment buildings with charging options, and work charging options.... and you're pretty near to 80% of the US population having charging options at home or their workplace today
I agree covering the other 20% will require more effort--- but given US market share right now is under 10% (it's expected to hit 10% this year) and 80% of the market COULD charge at home, it's not really an issue right now....and there's plenty of time to cover that remaining 20% before it becomes one.
This is fine if you plan to use your car around home. But for people who need a vehicle to both commute and to drive on trips, this lack of infrastructure is an issue. A $40000 limited utility vehicle is a luxury for some people. I may consider a EV to my next car, albeit I only purchase one every 6-10 years, but will always keep a gas powered one for trips. If I could buy a good EV for around $20k I'd probably have one right now just for the ability to use the hov lanes but I do t trust any used ones that I see on that price range. They are low end models with paltry range or Tesla like ones with high mileage and a fear of having to put in a new battery.
Or they built too many cars and trying to unload them all before bankruptcy lawyers come in. This is Fisker we are talking about. The company can go under literally any moment. Did people forget how his previous company went under?
Or they built too many cars and trying to unload them all before bankruptcy lawyers come in. This is Fisker we are talking about. The company can go under literally any moment. Did people forget how his previous company went under?
I certainly think there is too much risk in buying one of these Fisker's. If they go bankrupt, then you can't get the car repaired and that would be a disaster. I wouldn't buy one of these, not even for $20,000.
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However all EV manufacturers have battery recycling programs. Or… hey, consider this: People steal catalytic converts all the time. Why? Because they contain expensive metals. What else contains expensive metals? Car batteries. Right? The car batteries are more expensive than catalytic converters, because they contain valuable materials which can be recycled, and they are recycled.
However all EV manufacturers have battery recycling programs. Or… hey, consider this: People steal catalytic converts all the time. Why? Because they contain expensive metals. What else contains expensive metals? Car batteries. Right? You guys say that the car batteries are expensive. That's because they contain valuable materials which can be recycled, and they are recycled.[/quote]
I never said they can't be fixed or compared them to other car part problems. It is a fact EV drivers pay a higher rate for insurance and will continue to do so until insurance companies have enough data to price to market. 99.9% of body shops are unable to touch an EV battery pack for repairs. Lithium is not the future, do your research, it's just a stepping stone.
However all EV manufacturers have battery recycling programs. Or… hey, consider this: People steal catalytic converts all the time. Why? Because they contain expensive metals. What else contains expensive metals? Car batteries. Right? You guys say that the car batteries are expensive. That's because they contain valuable materials which can be recycled, and they are recycled.
I never said they can't be fixed or compared them to other car part problems. It is a fact EV drivers pay a higher rate for insurance and will continue to do so until insurance companies have enough data to price to market. 99.9% of body shops are unable to touch an EV battery pack for repairs. Lithium is not the future, do your research, it's just a stepping stone.
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False.
Here, for example is a story about the program Tesla has specifically to inspect and certify repaired batteries
https://teslanorth.com/2022/11/10...rchargers/
There's multiple large companies who specifically do this work for other car companies as well.
Literally every post you've made here is factually untrue and easily debunked.
What, specifically, are you trying to accomplish doing that so consistently?
Add in folks in duplexes with garages or driveways, apartments with garages, apartment buildings with charging options, and work charging options.... and you're pretty near to 80% of the US population having charging options at home or their workplace today
I agree covering the other 20% will require more effort--- but given US market share right now is under 10% (it's expected to hit 10% this year) and 80% of the market COULD charge at home, it's not really an issue right now....and there's plenty of time to cover that remaining 20% before it becomes one.
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