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SABRENT 10 Bay 3.5” SATA Hard Drive Tray Less Docking Station

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Amazon has SABRENT 10 Bay 3.5" SATA Hard Drive Tray Less Docking Station (DS-UCTB) on sale for $398.38 when you apply promo code 200XUCTB during checkout. Shipping is free.

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  • USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C port supports transfer speeds of up to 10 Gbps
  • 10x SATA 6 Gbit/s 3.5" hard drive tray-less bays
  • Hot-Swappable with 10 independent ON/OFF power switches
  • Two 120mm fans for additional cooling capability
  • Note: This multi-bay station does NOT have built in RAID functionality. However, software RAID configurations are possible

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Update: This popular deal is available again with a new promo code.

Amazon has SABRENT 10 Bay 3.5" SATA Hard Drive Tray Less Docking Station (DS-UCTB) on sale for $398.38 when you apply promo code 200XUCTB during checkout. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C port supports transfer speeds of up to 10 Gbps
  • 10x SATA 6 Gbit/s 3.5" hard drive tray-less bays
  • Hot-Swappable with 10 independent ON/OFF power switches
  • Two 120mm fans for additional cooling capability
  • Note: This multi-bay station does NOT have built in RAID functionality. However, software RAID configurations are possible

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Model: SABRENT 10 Bay 3.5” SATA Hard Drive Tray Less Docking Station (USB 3.2 Type C and Type A) (DS-UCTB)

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RelaxedRose979
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The issue is 10 drives sharing the 10Gbps USB 3.1 gen 2 interface. Hardware RAID is no longer recommended as software can keep up and gives the flexibility in not being paired with a specific controller or losing all of your data.

The Mini PCs we normally see listed max out with 2.5Gbps networking. So this would be able to keep up and saturate the pipe. If you needed more bandwidth, having separate direct SATA connections would be needed, likely with some type of external SAS connection.

10 drives is very large, unless you are going for extremely cheap small drives to fill the array. IMO it's better to use larger drives as each drive consumes power to run. UGreen has a Kickstarter going right now that has some really crazy deals for NASes that are supposed to ship in June. You might be more bang for your buck there.

Also, anyone thinking of using this many drives, Go with at least one parity disk, or even better two. The chance of data loss increases as you move to more and more drives. Not caring about movies on a single 10TB drive... fine. Not caring about 180TB, that's going to be a much larger pain to replace everything.
wherestheanykey
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Be sure to throw it on a UPS.

I was checking what level of support it has from Sabrent (zero, they have really gone downhill with firmware updates) and there's a thread about how it doesn't have automatic power recovery to bring the drives back up after power loss.
iconian
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they are sausages, not hot dogs, get it right!


actually, i am not even sure of the reference? but sabrent is very well known in ssd and pc component business for the last 5-10 years

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Apr 01, 2024 03:24 PM
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Nick04263Apr 01, 2024 03:24 PM
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Quote from CyanCorn8418 :
Remember eSATA?
I meant the self contained 10 bay case. Sure there were options but I don't recall a single case for this many drives for a home consumer. I ended up with a 5 bay desktop case where I took over the cdrom bays to stretch it to 8 total drives. Everything was crammed. I was never a fan of eSATA, not even for the external enclosures for NAS devices.
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Nintendo1474Apr 01, 2024 04:09 PM
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Quote from Azrael_the_Cat :
LOL, he cites a guy on youtube as a credible source.
Infinitely better than nothing at all. What, you want a recent, peer-reviewed study on what percentage of enterprise use software RAID?
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ProtistManApr 01, 2024 04:28 PM
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I use an 8-bay and a 12-bay Dell R515 with TrueNas. The Dell R520 looks to be a lot more accessible these days and has better compute performance. eBay has complete servers with drive sleds for $200 shipped. For sure these rack servers use more power. The fans are capable of pushing a ton of air, but spin down after POST and run as quiet as my desktop PC. IMHO, LOTs of benefits that come with enterprise gear.
SAS
ECC
iDRAC
Redundant PSU's

Add in what ever PCIE cards you want. Drop in 10GBE for about $20.

not to mention that the build quality is superior to basically anything in the consumer market.
Its great! Smilie
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Nintendo1474Apr 01, 2024 05:24 PM
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Quote from ProtistMan :
I use an 8-bay and a 12-bay Dell R515 with TrueNas. The Dell R520 looks to be a lot more accessible these days and has better compute performance. eBay has complete servers with drive sleds for $200 shipped. For sure these rack servers use more power. The fans are capable of pushing a ton of air, but spin down after POST and run as quiet as my desktop PC. IMHO, LOTs of benefits that come with enterprise gear.
SAS
ECC
iDRAC
Redundant PSU's

Add in what ever PCIE cards you want. Drop in 10GBE for about $20.

not to mention that the build quality is superior to basically anything in the consumer market.
Its great! Smilie
How about getting 10G networking on client devices? And a 10G router/switch? Or even better, actual links or screenshots or other forms of proof for any of the claims you're making? Even if you're right, just saying something exists doesn't really help most people.
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CyanCorn8418Apr 01, 2024 06:03 PM
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How about getting 10G networking on client devices? And a 10G router/switch? Or even better, actual links or screenshots or other forms of proof for any of the claims you're making? Even if you're right, just saying something exists doesn't really help most people.
The comments on this thread is getting to be pretty entertaining.

What I'm seeing is that this device being featured here is something of a cop out for people who don't want to bother to deal with all the details of dealing with mass storage. The only real benefit behind this thing is that it provides a way to slap 10 disks into a box that has a USB 3.2 interface for the (apparent) deal price of $400.... which I think is still really high for what this is.

To me it's obvious that there's a lot of MUCH better solutions than what this is at this price - like the comment you've replied to points one exact solution out. I also know I can piece something together BRAND NEW for around this price too -- pretty sure I could even use a motherboard that has USB 3.2 and set it up to work similar to this if I really wanted... _maybe_ it'll cost a few bucks more if going brand new.. but still, the point is that I really think this thing is a rip off for what it is -- I really think it's just catering a market of folks that just have a lot of disks laying around and they're not managing their data right or they're just being real stubborn with the machines they're working with - they just want to use a laptop only or run some micro server thing that does not have PCIE available to work with...

I can only think of 1 appropriate use case that I mentioned earlier and that's where you have scratch disks laying around and you're running a studio where you want to let people utilize a 10 disk raid 0 to beat them up for scratch work. Bring in your laptop, plug it into this, and work off it.... and even that is silly because you can also utilize NVME drive.... and then on top of this you can use SAS cards to directly interface with the drives, which would be way cheaper.

This thing is just a weird piece of hardware to me - if you really want it, fine -- but for $400 I just think there's a lot of better ways to apply that money.
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Nintendo1474Apr 01, 2024 10:54 PM
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Quote from CyanCorn8418 :
The comments on this thread is getting to be pretty entertaining.

What I'm seeing is that this device being featured here is something of a cop out for people who don't want to bother to deal with all the details of dealing with mass storage. The only real benefit behind this thing is that it provides a way to slap 10 disks into a box that has a USB 3.2 interface for the (apparent) deal price of $400.... which I think is still really high for what this is.

To me it's obvious that there's a lot of MUCH better solutions than what this is at this price - like the comment you've replied to points one exact solution out. I also know I can piece something together BRAND NEW for around this price too -- pretty sure I could even use a motherboard that has USB 3.2 and set it up to work similar to this if I really wanted... _maybe_ it'll cost a few bucks more if going brand new.. but still, the point is that I really think this thing is a rip off for what it is -- I really think it's just catering a market of folks that just have a lot of disks laying around and they're not managing their data right or they're just being real stubborn with the machines they're working with - they just want to use a laptop only or run some micro server thing that does not have PCIE available to work with...

I can only think of 1 appropriate use case that I mentioned earlier and that's where you have scratch disks laying around and you're running a studio where you want to let people utilize a 10 disk raid 0 to beat them up for scratch work. Bring in your laptop, plug it into this, and work off it.... and even that is silly because you can also utilize NVME drive.... and then on top of this you can use SAS cards to directly interface with the drives, which would be way cheaper.

This thing is just a weird piece of hardware to me - if you really want it, fine -- but for $400 I just think there's a lot of better ways to apply that money.
Thanks for all the links, bro. Appreciate it
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namlookApr 01, 2024 10:55 PM
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Quote from CyanCorn8418 :
The comments on this thread is getting to be pretty entertaining.

What I'm seeing is that this device being featured here is something of a cop out for people who don't want to bother to deal with all the details of dealing with mass storage. The only real benefit behind this thing is that it provides a way to slap 10 disks into a box that has a USB 3.2 interface for the (apparent) deal price of $400.... which I think is still really high for what this is.

To me it's obvious that there's a lot of MUCH better solutions than what this is at this price - like the comment you've replied to points one exact solution out. I also know I can piece something together BRAND NEW for around this price too -- pretty sure I could even use a motherboard that has USB 3.2 and set it up to work similar to this if I really wanted... _maybe_ it'll cost a few bucks more if going brand new.. but still, the point is that I really think this thing is a rip off for what it is -- I really think it's just catering a market of folks that just have a lot of disks laying around and they're not managing their data right or they're just being real stubborn with the machines they're working with - they just want to use a laptop only or run some micro server thing that does not have PCIE available to work with...

I can only think of 1 appropriate use case that I mentioned earlier and that's where you have scratch disks laying around and you're running a studio where you want to let people utilize a 10 disk raid 0 to beat them up for scratch work. Bring in your laptop, plug it into this, and work off it.... and even that is silly because you can also utilize NVME drive.... and then on top of this you can use SAS cards to directly interface with the drives, which would be way cheaper.

This thing is just a weird piece of hardware to me - if you really want it, fine -- but for $400 I just think there's a lot of better ways to apply that money.
I agree at $400 it's on the expensive side and can't imagine who would want to buy this at $600. But for some people this fits a need perfectly for what they want. And for those people it's not weird at all. Even at $400.
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DontTaxBeerApr 02, 2024 01:20 AM
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Is this the same company that makes hot dogs?
how dare you use the wrong pronouns! they are frank/furters.
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A4andrewApr 02, 2024 02:34 AM
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Any best practices in using this as an attachment to DOD wipe drives with Darik nuke or Eraser? (We'd rather have the disks reused than to degauss them).
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rawfishApr 02, 2024 06:33 AM
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Here's my use case, I have 10 14TB Seagate external drives. These 7200rpm drives will cook in their plastic enclosures. This units let's me put all these drives in one enclosure with sufficient cooling and the flexibility to only power on/off the drives I'm using. However, I haven't pulled the trigger yet because of the high cost for the convenience. Probably wait for a deal on the 5 bay.
One more con, what's the throughput copying from one drive to another. I figure it would be horrible with the data moving out and then into the enclosure, thru whatever USB you connect with.
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namlookApr 02, 2024 09:13 AM
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Quote from rawfish :
Here's my use case, I have 10 14TB Seagate external drives. These 7200rpm drives will cook in their plastic enclosures. This units let's me put all these drives in one enclosure with sufficient cooling and the flexibility to only power on/off the drives I'm using. However, I haven't pulled the trigger yet because of the high cost for the convenience. Probably wait for a deal on the 5 bay.
One more con, what's the throughput copying from one drive to another. I figure it would be horrible with the data moving out and then into the enclosure, thru whatever USB you connect with.
I don't have the Sabrent but I'm using Terramaster D5-300 five bay DAS which is USB3.1 (Gen1) and with HGST server drives I'm getting 220-230 MB/s moving files between drives in the DAS. The Sabrent is USB 3.2 Gen 2 which is a faster connection that supports up to 10Gbps while the Terramaster max is 5Gbps.
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rawfishApr 02, 2024 09:28 AM
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Quote from namlook :
I don't have the Sabrent but I'm using Terramaster D5-300 five bay DAS which is USB3.1 (Gen1) and with HGST server drives I'm getting 220-230 MB/s moving files between drives in the DAS.
Wow, that's the native HDD speed on SATA. Are you on 5Gbps or 10Gbps? Also, to confirm, that's the speed transferring between drives in the enclosure.
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namlookApr 02, 2024 10:04 AM
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Quote from rawfish :
Wow, that's the native HDD speed on SATA. Are you on 5Gbps or 10Gbps? Also, to confirm, that's the speed transferring between drives in the enclosure.
Yes, I just put four HGST HC520 drives in the Terramaster DAS and speed is 220-230 moving data between those drives in the enclosure. The Terramaster is 5Gbps.
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samHDApr 02, 2024 01:45 PM
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Thanks for all the links, bro. Appreciate it
dont be lazy. you have google too. stop asking the guy recommending a ceiling fan brand and wiring... to redesign your house and provide blueprints.
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CyanCorn8418Apr 02, 2024 02:13 PM
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Thanks for all the links, bro. Appreciate it
You can search for something like this yourself, I just checked on ebay really quick and found a Dell Poweredge R630 that when configured is a little more than what the device we're talking about is -- with the one configuration I just did you can get 2 10GbE + 2 1GbE connections and is a 10 bay with the trays - it's $10 more than this post. without the 10GbE that price gets to be $20 less than this post...

Personally, I'd rather try to piece something together myself with newer hardware but this is just something I went to look up really quick, like what you could do as well.

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