SABRENT 10 Bay 3.5” SATA Hard Drive Tray Less Docking Station Expired

I should have noted, if you only have 2 10g devices in your home, you could just add a 10g card to each one and connect a supported cable directly between them to accelerate that one connection (while plugging internet into the 1g ports). you can then set an ip address manually on each machine (perhaps 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2) and the 2 machine will be able to connect to one another at high speeds while connecting to everything else at 1g. this works great if you have a single workstation and a single file server, or a situation where you want all your 1g devices to be able to access the server AND you want your 10g workstation to connect to the server at those higher speeds. I ran a direct 10g connection between my primary server and workstation for a few years before I decided to throw money at a full 10g network upgrade.

That's a good option for some people but what you are describing is more than the average person wants to do. Most people already have a computer and would prefer to expand storage by plugging in a DAS. They don't want to build a new computer. There are also nice conveniences the Sabrent has such as the ability to hot swap drives and power off drives when not in use. It's also very streamlined and compact for a device holding 10 x 3.5" drives at only 10" x 6" x 13". There are solid reasons why someone might want this at $400. It's not great value for the money but it's not unreasonable considering the convenience factors. At $600 it's unreasonably priced.

I just find it bonkers that what I've described is more than what people would want to do and yet here they are with TEN 3.5" disks that they want to use this expensive device to manage them because that's easier over putting something together that'll give them more utility.

I'm confused why it's so great to have a USB 3.2 connection for something like this when you can get an SAS controller card for your machine... Unless you really just use a laptop all time time... But even then, you can't figure to organize drives in their own enclosures then? You NEED access to TEN disks simultaneously at all times? It doesn't really matter to me, I was just hoping there would've been a better answer as to what's so great with this thing... You're definitely paying for what seems to be a marginal convenience....

You should probably work on separating sentences into paragraphs if these comments threw you off.

Your wall of text is very hard to read.

WHY THE HELL would you go to all that work when you can just use the USB 10G port that's already there?

And I've tried sharing direct-connected ethernet devices to the rest of a network before. It's a huge pain in the ass if you've never done network config before. Nobody who is actually interested in buying this is gonna wanna get into that.

The issue is 10 drives sharing the 10Gbps USB 3.1 gen 2 interface. Hardware RAID is no longer recommended as software can keep up and gives the flexibility in not being paired with a specific controller or losing all of your data.

The Mini PCs we normally see listed max out with 2.5Gbps networking. So this would be able to keep up and saturate the pipe. If you needed more bandwidth, having separate direct SATA connections would be needed, likely with some type of external SAS connection.

10 drives is very large, unless you are going for extremely cheap small drives to fill the array. IMO it's better to use larger drives as each drive consumes power to run. UGreen has a Kickstarter going right now that has some really crazy deals for NASes that are supposed to ship in June. You might be more bang for your buck there.

Also, anyone thinking of using this many drives, Go with at least one parity disk, or even better two. The chance of data loss increases as you move to more and more drives. Not caring about movies on a single 10TB drive... fine. Not caring about 180TB, that's going to be a much larger pain to replace everything.

As I haven't used a synology device personally, I decided to go to their website and see what their offerings are like and I couldn't find a single device that used hardware raid. The ones I looked at one their site run a proprietary linux distribution called DiskStation Manager (DSM) and work by doing standard linux md RAID (0,1,5,6,10) as well as a couple of proprietary options including Synology Hybrid Raid (SHR) which can use unmatched disk sizes with one or two disks of parity, or something they call RAID F1 designed for all-flash pools which allows one of the drives to be used more than others so that it will age out (with the number of writes to it) first so you can better control ssd wear). If I missed something, Please link me to some synology stuff that uses hardware raid?

That said, I understand that there are some vendors (such as HP and Dell) that *do* have servers that can be configured for hardware raid from the factory, but they aren't really all that popular anymore, and it's mostly due to the slow-moving offerings from those large Enterprise SIs (who have invested heavily in licensing and integrating hardware raid controllers onto their motherboards). Most data centers, enterprises, and medium/large businesses are typically using EITHER one or more traditional centralized file servers (with expansion via SAS DAEs/fibrechannel/sometimes iscsi) to one or more centralized heads (with lots of ram and maybe an ssd caching layer) using zfs (running either on some flavor of linux or some storage distribution that uses zfs (like truenas) for pool, storage, redundancy, scrubbing, etc) OR some kind of decentralized filesystem such as ceph/glusterfs for foss offerings or weka or similar proprietary options. (not that i'd ever recommend individuals license expensive high performance clustered filesystems with 5+ servers for home data storage).

whats the risk? Is it data loss or something that can harm drives?

Remember eSATA?

I have a 8' C/Ku band motorized satellite dish. I get used 2.5" laptop drives cheap on eBay and put them in those clear Orico USB 3 enclosures.

I plug those into my satellite receiver and can record. It's 2GB per hour for HD and produces a .ts file (Transport Stream).

I was using HDDs in the computer and 3 aluminum Rosewill eSATA/USB enclosures, the nice ones with fans that can be turned off. No longer sold.

When I built my Ryzen 5950X I upgraded the storage to a Orico 5-bay USB 3.1 10 Gbps enclosure. It has 16TB drives in it which is said to be the limit. Today a WD 18TB will arrive and I'll test it to see if it'll do 18TB. The old Rosewills go bigger than they claimed.

I'm dumping a ton of TV and movies into that thing. I'm using big drives in the computer to dump video to, then I transcode it and store it in the Orico 5 Bay. I also move the originals there because I'm probably going to transcode everything to something else due to progress in formats and horse power etc.

I am going to keep duplicates of everything. I also have files from the 80s. I'm like ConcreteMan a few pages back, a data horder. If I download a motherboard manual then buy something else, I keep the pdf.

I run Linux and use a simple program to make two drives match, in case I screw up and don't create a duplicate.

My Orico will copy drive to drive at very good speed. I forgot exactly. But SATA is 6 Gbps and I have 2x 5 Gbps in the Orico. It works really well.

From the big drives in the computer to the Orico is usually 260 MB/s, up to 269-279 at times.

When I transcode the TS files to h.264/265 I can reduce a 2 hour movie to about 600MB.

That's what I use a 5-Bay 10 Gbps enclosure for and I sure wish I'd have gotten the Sabrent 5-bay because the Orico has trays but the problem is the flimsy doors.

The plastic doors pop open but they do not eject the tray. You can't pull on the door and it's just a bad design. It said aluminium enclosure but the important part is junk plastic.

I don't stream all over the house even though everything is on two wired networks. One is security cameras and the other is Internet. I bridge the connections when needed.

Once compressed, I can put quite a few movies etc on a laptop drive and plug it into the receiver and play them back. I don't need a server or powered on drives.

That's another reason I wish I'd have gotten the Sabrent, individual power buttons. I only need one drive powered on most of the time, the drive I'm dumping transcodes to.

I can see a use for this 10-bay. I'm going to end up with three 3TB, two 6TB and two 8TB drives retired. It would be nice to have spare bays to copy things back if a drive does die.

The Orico can be daisy chained too, so space and bays can be added. I assume the Sabrent can do that too but check it...I have not verified that.

I did read all 11 pages and learned a little, but I hope this helps people figure out what they need, or don't need, like me.

I need an AI commercial remover.
That's a lot of work.

Are you serious?

I don't believe it exists. If I'm right, then I'd be looking forever for something that doesn't exist. Huge waste of time trying and failing to prove myself wrong on behalf of some random internet stranger.

This is why the burden of proof is on the one who claims something exists.

lol. you spend more time on that reply than searching. grow up.

This statement is incredibly wrong. Relying on software for raid compared to a hardware raid controller. Find a real server that used software raid dell, hpe whoever. Battery backed up cache. Replacing a hardware raid controller happens quite a bit less often than say reinstalling your os… then having to import /rebuild your software raid container. Synology uses software raid but its od will rebuild it auto magically. I would like to know where you found "Hardware RAID is no longer recommended" as software can keep up and gives the flexibility in not being paired with a specific controller or losing all of your data."

Thats almost as bad as putting software raid on top of hardware raid.