Participating Subaru Dealerships [
dealership locator] have
2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to
Lease at
$241/month for
36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.
Thanks to community member
KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
- Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
Features:
- All-wheel-drive electric crossover
- Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
- Range: 228 miles
- 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
- 8.3" of ground clearance
- Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform
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Save a few dollars on fuel costs but lose Tens of Thousands in depreciation.
You stated 750 miles...on a longer trip you will be adding an extra expense at a hotel or parking lot.
Used car prices have been slowly dropping over the past 12 months, with the average used car now priced at $31,153, a 3.6 percent decline, or $1,161 drop, since last year. While used hybrid vehicles are down about twice that rate, at 6.5 percent or $2,135, electric vehicles have experienced a far more dramatic drop, losing 31.8 percent of their value, which equates to $14,418.
https://www.iseecars.co
Once we learned
Right now is a great time to buy an EV - prices are lower than they have been in quite a while.
once we learned
right now is a great time to buy an ev - prices are lower than they have been in quite a while.
and to be clear.
not just a 2023 solterra...a 2023 solterra w a msrp of no more than $46,220
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Super fast charging, future upgrades for FSD if you want, and they are everywhere so you can find support.
It's not the best bang for the buck, but it's going to be a safe bet.
Charge EVs at home and you'll see good (not great) fuel savings compared to the investment cost.
The only one worth a long road trip are the Teslas. Less planning and far more security for those new and with range anxiety.
Edit: I have a four hour trip in about an hour, through snow (chain controls) and about 250 miles in total distance. The Tesla will make those baby conditions just fine. But give it 6-12 inches on the road, you better have swapped to better tires.
Particulate matter is also a solid (otherwise it'd be particulate gas)
Yes, the worst numbers are from the worst circumstance, but even the more realistic numbers came out to estimates of 400 times worse. YOU CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THE ADDED WEIGHT AND THE EXTRA WEAR EQUALING MORE EMISSIONS.
Long term enviornmental impact from EV battery mining is much lower long term-- because once you do it once for a car the battery is good for a decade or two.
Whereas the ICE vehicle will need fresh, mined from the earth, gasoline on a weekly basis for those decades.
Why aren't you mad about the slaves doing that work?
"Tesla is known for using nickel-cobalt-aluminum (NCA) cathodes developed by Japanese company Panasonic (OTC Pink
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And guess where they get a lot of that Lithium, yup, China.
And a lot of EV hate here. Anyhow, 4.5 hours through the snow and R2 conditions in the mountains cost me about 70% (assume kWH) to drive 250 miles. Passed two cyber trucks as well.
Assuming a $0.135 kWh cost that would be about 3.57 miles per kilowatt, or $0.037 miles per gallon. Because I've done this run 50+ times, it's about 110 kWh for 500 miles about $0.18 kWh - or about $0.04 a mile.
Assume 500 miles, and getting 25 MPG. That's 20 gallons or $80 if you were getting it at $4/gallon. Savings can be derived at $60 bucks for every 500 miles driven. Costco executive membership saves you a few percentage, and you can buy in places that charge less (putting it into cans and driving it)
Tires are going to wear out for every car. Sorry. But you can measure how much you lose by the tread wear starting at whatever (16/32) and down to even 2/32nd. Tires weigh about 40-50 lbs and that is not all going up in smoke. Larger tires for SUVs will wear about 50-60K as fast as a Tesla can. They also cost about the same (I run three different brands depending on conditions and nothing "Tesla" special but tire rack and 1010 tires). So the false study (yeah, read it) ignores lots of other factors like tail pipe emissions (gallon of gas weighs 6.6 gallons so that's 125 lbs of emissions per 20 gallons - unless you don't consider CO2 nor CO an issue, then you're not an environmentalist)
I've done the same runs on lighter vehicles (R1200GS getting 40 MPG, about the same as a KTM 500 EXC) and you just burn through tires faster though you save on fuel. You can also fly, that's about 130 NM and about the same fuel economy as a SUV, 15 MPG with a IO360 engine.
TL;DR unless you have the need to haul lumber or people, an EV is going to cover a lot of the bases. Otherwise, buy an AWD Sienna or Chrysler T&C so you can put a full sheet of plywood there.
Oh and I forgot to mention the underhanded, dishonest tactics and ridiculous add-ons from dealers. All of this combined has made the average car buyer detest the current "dealership experience". I'd love to go buy a new truck, but currently there is no way I'd set foot on a dealership lot with all of the above in mind. They can keep their $80,000 trucks; I'm not interested.
And a lot of EV hate here. Anyhow, 4.5 hours through the snow and R2 conditions in the mountains cost me about 70% (assume kWH) to drive 250 miles. Passed two cyber trucks as well.
Assuming a $0.135 kWh cost that would be about 3.57 miles per kilowatt, or $0.037 miles per gallon. Because I've done this run 50+ times, it's about 110 kWh for 500 miles about $0.18 kWh - or about $0.04 a mile.
Assume 500 miles, and getting 25 MPG. That's 20 gallons or $80 if you were getting it at $4/gallon. Savings can be derived at $60 bucks for every 500 miles driven. Costco executive membership saves you a few percentage, and you can buy in places that charge less (putting it into cans and driving it)
Assuming EVs should be treated like a daily driver, I'll use a corolla as a stand in.
I've also driven pretty much every tesla, with doing long 10+ hour drives in X to draw from personal experience.
Basically for me, ignoring the cost of each vehicle, and looking solely at cost of range;
The X I was going about 250~ miles per fill at a super charger. I think I was going to about 65-75%. Basically when it stops 'fast' charging. I think it was coming out around 25~ bucks each charge. The X has a 100kwatt battery, or about. Assuming I charged at least half of that, since I didnt run down to lower than 10%. Super charging at the time was around 0.40/kwatt. so again it checks out I was paying around 20-23~ per stop.
On a corolla I can generally go about 500~ miles per fill. Gas is like 4.5 for me right now, so that's about ... lets say 40 dollars. Taken the number from above, I am paying the same price on EV at a supercharger vs filling at the pump.
From my personal experience with my high electrical costs (Home charging TOU plan mandatory, 0.45/kwatt avg) Seems like a wash in 'fuel' costs.
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I can cite studies showing the net environmental benefits of using EVs, but you and your small brain won't be able to understand any of those. Keep praying to your "god" - I'm sure he'll fix your problems, I'll actually do something.
It's OK to support the 900 billion dollars going to the military industrial complex, but god forbid $7500 for EVs to help less people get asthma.
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