expiredKhalidS8701 posted Apr 03, 2024 03:25 PM
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expiredKhalidS8701 posted Apr 03, 2024 03:25 PM
Subaru Lease Offer: 2023 Subaru Solterra Compact Electric SUV
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Participating Subaru Dealerships [dealership locator] have 2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to Lease at $241/month for 36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.
Thanks to community member KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
Thanks to community member KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
- Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
- All-wheel-drive electric crossover
- Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
- Range: 228 miles
- 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
- 8.3" of ground clearance
- Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform
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Written by RevOne | Staff- About this deal:
- Offer valid through April 30, 2024.
- Subject to credit approval, vehicle insurance approval, & vehicle availability. Not all buyers may qualify. Payments may be higher in some states. Net cap cost & monthly payment excludes tax, license, title, registration, insurance, additional options, & retailer charges. Retailer participation may affect actual payment. At lease end, lessee is responsible for vehicle maintenance & repairs not covered by warranty, excessive wear & tear. Lessee pays personal property & ad valorem taxes (where applicable) & insurance. See participating retailer for details.
- Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
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Participating Subaru Dealerships [dealership locator] have 2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to Lease at $241/month for 36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.
Thanks to community member KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
Thanks to community member KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
- Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
- All-wheel-drive electric crossover
- Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
- Range: 228 miles
- 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
- 8.3" of ground clearance
- Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform
Editor's Notes
Written by RevOne | Staff- About this deal:
- Offer valid through April 30, 2024.
- Subject to credit approval, vehicle insurance approval, & vehicle availability. Not all buyers may qualify. Payments may be higher in some states. Net cap cost & monthly payment excludes tax, license, title, registration, insurance, additional options, & retailer charges. Retailer participation may affect actual payment. At lease end, lessee is responsible for vehicle maintenance & repairs not covered by warranty, excessive wear & tear. Lessee pays personal property & ad valorem taxes (where applicable) & insurance. See participating retailer for details.
- Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
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It literally is.
Burning FF at central plants is objectively cleaner and more efficient than burning them in individual less efficient gasoline engines.
Cradle to grave EVs are much cleaner than gas cars, period full stop- even when coal is a percentage of the central power source (and the majority of FFs burned in the US for power is natural gas- itself considerably cleaner than coal OR gasoline)
It literally is.
Burning FF at central plants is objectively cleaner and more efficient than burning them in individual less efficient gasoline engines.
Cradle to grave EVs are much cleaner than gas cars, period full stop- even when coal is a percentage of the central power source (and the majority of FFs burned in the US for power is natural gas- itself considerably cleaner than coal OR gasoline)
typical EVs?
You ignore the true cost. Coal and wood is being burned to make components and parts and then again to charge batteries is not efficient and you do not account for all costs, China's coal plants are not efficient or clean and we all breathe the same air.. You also ignore the deforestation effects and the increased pollutants and toxic waste that we will have to deal with. You also ignore the mining and human slavery that also has it's costs.
Care to explain why EVs can drop near 60% in value after a year or so if they are so efficient and great. Cradle to grave for a EV is when the battery warranty runs out. That is going to have piles and piles of EV leaking toxins and heavy metals who knows where.
Only a fraction goes to green energy.
We have used the green deal to help invest in a new sub-panel and heat pumps.
People like Norcal007 only have short term vision and could care less about the future which is where this bill will do wonders.
typical EVs?
They're a good 10 years behind the leaders in the field- and that's reflected in their hilariously low sales.
For all of 2023 Subaru sold a total of 8,872 of these cars.
Tesla sold more EVs than that every two days in the same year.
Which part of that fact do you not understand?
https://about.bnef.com/blog/no-do...y%20charge.
https://www.factcheck.o
Only a fraction goes to green energy.
We have used the green deal to help invest in a new sub-panel and heat pumps.
People like Norcal007 only have short term vision and could care less about the future which is where this bill will do wonders.
They're a good 10 years behind the leaders in the field- and that's reflected in their hilariously low sales.
For all of 2023 Subaru sold a total of 8,872 of these cars.
Tesla sold more EVs than that every two days in the same year.
I do though. And it's still cleaner to do EVs than gas cars cradle to grave.
Which part of that fact do you not understand?
https://about.bnef.com/blog/no-do...y%20charge [bnef.com].
https://www.reuters.com/business/...021-06-29/ [reuters.com]
Which for the typical driver is just over one year of use... and the ICE keeps getting worse cumulatively for all the 10+ years both likely remain in service.
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02...lifetimes/ [factcheck.org]
In one of the studies cited in this link they measure it as 19,500 miles before the cradle to grave total emissions from an ICE car would be greater than an EV- and again keep getting worse for the ICE car the longer beyond that both are driven.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56574779.
https://www.bloomberg.c
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We are currently seeing the tip of the iceberg on upcoming massive price drops across the board, both for EVs and internal combustion cars and trucks. Demand for all has dropped to historic lows because of greedy pricing by manufacturers/dealers combined with high interest rates, tightened lending standards, and upside down trade-ins. Lots are overflowing nationwide, with even some new 2022 models still unsold. When the tipping point is reached in the next 6 months or so, 5 figure discounts off sticker will become the norm as dealers scramble to offload inventory in a buyer's market. Many dealers are facing bankruptcy as we speak unless drastic measures are taken to move cars that are costing them huge amounts in floorplan interest costs. It's time for them to pay the piper for the easy money they made during the pandemic.
Oh and I forgot to mention the underhanded, dishonest tactics and ridiculous add-ons from dealers. All of this combined has made the average car buyer detest the current "dealership experience". I'd love to go buy a new truck, but currently there is no way I'd set foot on a dealership lot with all of the above in mind. They can keep their $80,000 trucks; I'm not interested.
No. Why do you keep making up things nobody said?
I'm simply pointing out if you want to look at what to expect from the majority of EVs today you shouldn't be cherry picking the ones that are only like 0.1% of annual sales.
It'd be about like saying all beer is bad because the batch you made in your garage made you sick.
What, specifically, do you hope to gain from that?
Cradle to grave the emissions from making, fueling, and disposing of an EV are lower than for gasoline cars
Stomping your feet up and down because someone chopped down a tree doesn't change the facts or the math proving it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56574779.
Also- did you actually read it?
because it notes even back then car makers were already preparing to handle this exact issue
Redwood Materials for example, founded by the former CTO of Tesla, which has recycling deals with Ford, Volvo, Panasonic, and others.
The materials in the batteries are quite valuable, and recycling them is a profitable business. This is a "problem" that is easily solving itself through basic economic factors.
More factually-untrue nonsense.
https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/cli...-subsidies
There's nothing elusive about em either- they've been in the US tax code for a long time-
The oldest, known as "intangible drilling costs," was created by the Revenue Act of 1913 and was aimed at encouraging the development of U.S. resources. The deduction allows companies to write off as much as 80 percent of the costs of drilling, things like employee wages and survey work, in the first year of operation, even before producing a drop of oil.
Another subsidy, dating from 1926 and known as the depletion allowance, initially let oil companies deduct their taxable income by 27.5 percent, a number that seemed strangely specific.
"We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at," Senator Tom Connally, the Texas Democrat who sponsored the break and who died in 1963, was quoted as having said.
So the idea we don't subsidize oil/gas-- and have been doing so for over a century, simply ain't so.
I'm simply pointing out if you want to look at what to expect from the majority of EVs today you shouldn't be cherry picking the ones that are only like 0.1% of annual sales.
It'd be about like saying all beer is bad because the batch you made in your garage made you sick.
Why do you keep repeating debunked nonsense my dude?
What, specifically, do you hope to gain from that?
Cradle to grave the emissions from making, fueling, and disposing of an EV are lower than for gasoline cars
Stomping your feet up and down because someone chopped down a tree doesn't change the facts or the math proving it.
Did you notice this story was about 3 years old?
Also- did you actually read it?
because it notes even back then car makers were already preparing to handle this exact issue
In the 3 years since even more major recycling companies have come into being to handle the issue.
Redwood Materials for example, founded by the former CTO of Tesla, which has recycling deals with Ford, Volvo, Panasonic, and others.
The materials in the batteries are quite valuable, and recycling them is a profitable business. This is a "problem" that is easily solving itself through basic economic factors.
More factually-untrue nonsense.
https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/cli...-subsidies [imf.org]
There's nothing elusive about em either- they've been in the US tax code for a long time-
The oldest, known as "intangible drilling costs," was created by the Revenue Act of 1913 and was aimed at encouraging the development of U.S. resources. The deduction allows companies to write off as much as 80 percent of the costs of drilling, things like employee wages and survey work, in the first year of operation, even before producing a drop of oil.
Another subsidy, dating from 1926 and known as the depletion allowance, initially let oil companies deduct their taxable income by 27.5 percent, a number that seemed strangely specific.
"We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at," Senator Tom Connally, the Texas Democrat who sponsored the break and who died in 1963, was quoted as having said.
So the idea we don't subsidize oil/gas-- and have been doing so for over a century, simply ain't so.
There was one weird bit in China due to a combo of strange govt. subsidies and these ride-hailing small cars that resulted in some being used to farm subsidy and the ride hailing or car company then went broke.... but that's already over- and even in the link you posted those 'graveyards" are usually a few hundred cars.... in a market that's selling (and using- for years) millions per year EVs... and even those small hundreds-of-cars lots are slowly being cleaned up/recycled- which your own source pointed out- because the batteries are valuable
How?
The literal best selling car in the world in 2023 was the Tesla Model Y.
The minimum battery warranty on an EV in the US is 8 years.
Why do you keep doubling down on debunked untrue things my dude?
Is it intentional- or simply an unwillingness to educate yourself?
Also roughly 0 "poor" people bought a Fisker.
Why keep lying about this?
They will be recycled.
A story you cited even pointed out how all the major car companies have process for doing this and many third party companies are appearing to help the do it.
You don't seem to be among them.
first one that i recall that did.
what was msrp?
what did u pay at signing? ..like literally $0?
so will your total cost be:
329x36=11,844?
(+whatever fees u pay end lease.... after 36 months)
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