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This was in the news. I haven't contacted the dealer yet but it looks like $2210 pay down and $125 a month. My simple math says about $185 a month.
This excludes any dealer discounts. But may exclude some other fees. I have never leased so no clue.
Great as a third car. Note that this model didn't get very good reviews - hence it being priced accordingly.
https://www.toyota.com/midwest/de...icles=bz4x
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Toyota built this as a compliance car to fill a gap in the lineup and has zero focus on it or care. If anything, it is the 'look we built an EV, it sucks!'. The first production run had WHEELS FALLING OFF. They recalled every single one! The car is slow and just utterly wild in it's idiocy.
We test drove the badge engineered Subaru version - the Solterra. Same car, different logo.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
All in all, it just felt like Toyota was completely uninterested in building it as it is lower margin than gas/hybrid.
Then you have the ioniq 5. Hyundai's focus is straight up on on beating the Tesla Model Y. They are serious and in it. The car is shockingly better looking in person than the BZ4X. The interior feels like tomorrow and has innovative ideas, way more range, way better software, etc.
Korea is currently having the same moment that Japan had in the 90s, Hyundai should be taken seriously, esp in the EV space.
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Toyota built this as a compliance car to fill a gap in the lineup and has zero focus on it or care. If anything, it is the 'look we built an EV, it sucks!'. The first production run had WHEELS FALLING OFF. They recalled every single one! The car is slow and just utterly wild in it's idiocy.
We test drove the badge engineered Subaru version - the Solterra. Same car, different logo.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
All in all, it just felt like Toyota was completely uninterested in building it as it is lower margin than gas/hybrid.
Then you have the ioniq 5. Hyundai's focus is straight up on on beating the Tesla Model Y. They are serious and in it. The car is shockingly better looking in person than the BZ4X. The interior feels like tomorrow and has innovative ideas, way more range, way better software, etc.
Korea is currently having the same moment that Japan had in the 90s, Hyundai should be taken seriously, esp in the EV space.
I agree with your entire comment except the very end should just say "Hyundai should be taken seriously in the EV space." Their gas models leave a lot to be desired in terms of reliability.
Their 7 and 8 speed DCTs have extremely high faulure rates. Many of their engines have widespread issues as well, particularly the Theta and Nu engines, as well as the Smartstream engine family. I don't know many people with Hyundai/Kia cars, but like half the people I do know with them have had major issues way too early. This includes my girlfriend's sister, who's 2017 Santa Fe Sport needed a new engine at just 3 years 50k miles, a coworker who's 2019 K5 already needed a new engine and was in the shop nonstop until she got rid of it in 2022, and an acquaintance through work that's already had a transmission replacement on his Santa Cruz (not sure what year, but those have only been around a couple years).
AFAIK their EV models are reliable though. All the issues I've seen with Hyundai/Kia cars are with their powertrain components on gas models.
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The onboard charger only handles level 1 and level 2 AC charging.
DC fast charging is handled by the charging station and the software in the car.
Both the Toyota and Bolt are great cars for urban driving.
I had a Bolt for 3 years and only needed to DCFC it two times when I went into a big city. Even then, it was 30 minutes to get the range I needed.
It was the lowest maintenance and most reliable car I ever had.
EVs lije these are meant to be charged at home 95% of the time.
Their 7 and 8 speed DCTs have extremely high faulure rates. Many of their engines have widespread issues as well, particularly the Theta and Nu engines, as well as the Smartstream engine family. I don't know many people with Hyundai/Kia cars, but like half the people I do know with them have had major issues way too early. This includes my girlfriend's sister, who's 2017 Santa Fe Sport needed a new engine at just 3 years 50k miles, a coworker who's 2019 K5 already needed a new engine and was in the shop nonstop until she got rid of it in 2022, and an acquaintance through work that's already had a transmission replacement on his Santa Cruz (not sure what year, but those have only been around a couple years).
AFAIK their EV models are reliable though. All the issues I've seen with Hyundai/Kia cars are with their powertrain components on gas models.
All the Hyundai and Kia EV's models have issues with the ICCU which causes the 12v battery to die, and other charging issues. They claim the failure rate is only 1%, but it seems to be much higher, as that 1% is only what the consumers have reported to the NTSB.
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