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Hp Prime G2 Graphing Calculator 2AP18AA $124
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Woot via Amazon has the G2 for $124. Lowest price since August 2023.
Dropped another $5 to $124 now.
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Dropped another $5 to $124 now.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...X03I&
Created 04-27-2024
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Sort: Lowest to Highest | Last Updated 6/15/2024, 10:03 AM| Sold By | Sale Price |
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| Rating: | (4.5 out of 5 stars) |
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| Product Name: | 2AP18AA#ABA Hp Prime Graphing Calculator Ii |
| Manufacturer: | hp |
| Model Number: | 2AP18AA#B1S |
| Product SKU: | B07HF6RXGG |
| UPC: | 191628030095 |
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It has been my experience that TI models are the best for school, as TI has spent a LOT of money developing a monopoly on being THE default school calculator over the years. Student instruction using calculators will almost always default to presuming the student has a TI calculator.
However, for real world applications, I'd prefer the HP (either my trusty old HP 50G, which will be pried out of my cold dead hands, or the HP Prime series) as I find it quicker and easier to use than the equivalent TI.
Just my 2 cents.
Is this HP similar to TI calculators ie. TI 82?
Is this HP similar to TI calculators ie. TI 82?
Funny thing about ChatGPT. Our district elementary schools are teaching how to use it for writing help. I think this is interesting...kind of cutting edge. Instead of, omg, new tool, ban it...they're taking the approach that in the future it'll be part of society, just like Google, so why not teach how to use it properly.
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It's really the Concepts + Problem Solving skills they need to develop. How they solve the problems - pen and paper, abacus, mental math, calculator, chatgpt, etc really isn't going to help them given a properly designed question. E.g. Just look at the GMAT math section, etc.
All these really do is speed up the boring manual labor for those with poor calculation speeds.
E.g. Sure, anyone can long hand 9/13547 cos (45), but is that really a Good test of advanced math skills? Imo, no. Just doing table lookups and long division on paper.
Should they be able to figure out how to do it on paper or look it up later? Yes. Do they need to remember how? I'd argue, no. No real world application of long hand division imo, but there is use of dividing numbers in real life.
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As for the level of skills and math competency, that's easy, too. STOP with the silly US brain-dead modern math lessons and adopt those of countries with kids that do far better on standardized math tests, yet the schools spend far less money.
Fact that baby 7 year olds can abacus their way around 365689642/3677532789 in seconds immediately puts calculator kids at a severe disadvantage at a most basic level. But differences in teaching advanced math concepts are present, too.
(We'll ignore the fact that studies show learners of a language with monosyllabic number words can remember longer numbers and calculate faster....)
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Now these calculators.
Just because they can do a ton doesn't mean everyone will score 100%. Heck, you can intensively train every kid on using Mathematica to literally solve almost every complex math problem they'll encounter up to a PhD program, and they won't all get 100% using it on a test.
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What i don't think is useful is the TI monopoly.
The calculator isn't "logical" or very "friendly" to use by modern smartphone app means, and I've seen kids spend more time getting familiar with the calculator than doing the homework.
It's really the Concepts + Problem Solving skills they need to develop. How they solve the problems - pen and paper, abacus, mental math, calculator, chatgpt, etc really isn't going to help them given a properly designed question. E.g. Just look at the GMAT math section, etc.
All these really do is speed up the boring manual labor for those with poor calculation speeds.
E.g. Sure, anyone can long hand 9/13547 cos (45), but is that really a Good test of advanced math skills? Imo, no. Just doing table lookups and long division on paper.
Should they be able to figure out how to do it on paper or look it up later? Yes. Do they need to remember how? I'd argue, no. No real world application of long hand division imo, but there is use of dividing numbers in real life.
....
As for the level of skills and math competency, that's easy, too. STOP with the silly US brain-dead modern math lessons and adopt those of countries with kids that do far better on standardized math tests, yet the schools spend far less money.
Fact that baby 7 year olds can abacus their way around 365689642/3677532789 in seconds immediately puts calculator kids at a severe disadvantage at a most basic level. But differences in teaching advanced math concepts are present, too.
(We'll ignore the fact that studies show learners of a language with monosyllabic number words can remember longer numbers and calculate faster....)
...
Now these calculators.
Just because they can do a ton doesn't mean everyone will score 100%. Heck, you can intensively train every kid on using Mathematica to literally solve almost every complex math problem they'll encounter up to a PhD program, and they won't all get 100% using it on a test.
....
What i don't think is useful is the TI monopoly.
The calculator isn't "logical" or very "friendly" to use by modern smartphone app means, and I've seen kids spend more time getting familiar with the calculator than doing the homework.
Sorry I'm not following what you're saying. I think you're misunderstanding. There are functional differences between calculators. Once you advance beyond basic graphing calculators, the calculator is literally capable of solving the majority of math equations through simplistic dummy proof inputs as if it were WolframAlpha. This includes inputs of multi variable functions with defined/undefined values. **I.e. You can pretty much cheat your way through the entirety of calculus.
There's a reason why professors, university courses, standardized tests, and license exams restrict what calculators are allowed-- and surprise surprise, it isn't because of some ti monopoly. Allowable calcs are typically Casio, HP, and TI. Take your pick they've all been around. People tend to gravitate towards TI because their key inputs and commands feel more intuitive. And while you may disagree, it is actually very important to become familiar with your calculator of choice. No comment on ti calcs being difficult/unfriendly..
But to OP...Having the best calculator isn't like shopping between iPad models/comparing computer specs. I could see this being introduced maybe once you hit diff eq. and above (if your prof even allows it). Anything sooner and it could be pretty detrimental-- certainly if used through trig/pre-calc. So many fundamentals are developed there... shit I used a ti 89 vs an 84 back in HS and that crutched me pretty bad, which is why I'm even bothering to post here. If your kiddo isn't going down a stem path, then none of this even matters...but at the very least, talk to your math teacher for a second opinion.
One more thing, there is almost no restriction on CAS calculators anymore. The only one I know of is the ACT. Certainly not the SAT, AP test, or school district we're in. Not sure about Uni now a days though.
I'm with babygdav...he said it well.
Anyway, back to the regular programming of slickdeals...helping people save money. This might be a good deal on a good calculator...no judgement on whether this calculator is the right tool for you.
One more thing, there is almost no restriction on CAS calculators anymore. The only one I know of is the ACT. Certainly not the SAT, AP test, or school district we're in. Not sure about Uni now a days though.
I'm with babygdav...he said it well.
Anyway, back to the regular programming of slickdeals...helping people save money. This might be a good deal on a good calculator...no judgement on whether this calculator is the right tool for you.
Sorry I didn't mean to offend.. of course parent how you want to and what's best for your situation. I'm an engineer so this is just my perspective.. kind of why I threw the 'only applies if stem' and 'get a second opinion'. I've an upcoming PE exam for licensure and stamp, I'm only allowed a scientific calc. It's all opinions so take it for what it is.
Still available at OP's original link [amazon.com] for $124+tax.
I have to say, I was very presently surprised by the keypad on the G2 versus my original A model. The keypad on the original model absolutely sucked beyond the telling. Not so with the G2 - it is a vast improvement.
Thanks for the post, @vtec26
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Is this HP similar to TI calculators ie. TI 82?
No, it is not. The HP Prime G2 is so far beyond a TI-82 that is isn't funny. It is pretty much equivalent to TI's highest end Nspire CX II CAS graphing calculator in terms of raw capability.
In general, if you plan to just depend upon your teacher to learn how to use your calculator, just buy whatever the teacher tells you to. OTOH, if you are willing to put in the time learning to use your calculator on your own (which you really should do, plenty of tutorials on Youtube if nothing else), it doesn't matter what brand you have.
And, FWIW, Casio calculators aren't that bad either. For its time, the Prizm FX-CG50 was a very decent competitor to the higher end HP/TI offerings at the time of its release. It just hasn't been updated since then, while HP/TI have released multiple followups. Casio isn't as advanced as HP/TI high end because they just don't have the development budget behind them that HP (and especially) TI do.