Onkyo tx-RZ70 11.2 channel Receiver $1999

Now make it $1500 and add back the volume curve(DynamicEQ ) feature!

The problem is Dirac doesn't have a volume curve feature either and that really is the more important feature if you listen to music. If your room is good, you don't need much room correction, while volume curve is impossible to do well on your own, the built in PEQ of 6db is not enough.

Unfortunately not much value compared to their RZ50.

The RZ50 gives you 11 pre outs channels of processing for much less than this.
Most people don't believe they need 140 watts for all the channels, why you get pre outs after all.

RZ50 didn't bench test very well but people often rave about how extremely satisfied they are with it.

People often dismiss DLBC as irrelevant because they believe Dirac Live offers their bass management with it.
The RZ50 also includes the same version of Dirac Live.

From personal experience, at this price I would throw in the Marantz Cinema 50 when on sale like this.

The same site has it refurb for $1499.
If you need Dirac Live you can add it now and still leaves you enough for the better mic than you get with this.
They make a very good mix IMO.

Same would hold true when the Denon 4800 goes on sale again.
Heck even at the price the same site has it now would be a contender(1799OB/1699refurb).

Rz70 gives you auro3d though. Not worth it for a grand upgrade. But if you have a big room and need the extra channels. With auro as well

Rz70 gives you auro3d though. Not worth it for a grand upgrade. But if you have a big room and need the extra channels. With auro as well

I personally dont like room correction when listening to music..or even worse having it matrixed into multi channel audio

I am an old school pure direct mode for 2 channel music

This unit does not have the Dirac target curves built in that some brands have.
In the AVS forum thread for the Onkyo 7100/RZ50 forum there are those that have used some target curves that they have obtained elsewhere

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/...e.3227263/ [avsforum.com]

Each Dirac enabled brand seems to have their own nuances to room correction set up

Pure direct 2 channel is for serious music listener. As myself I also prefer 2 channel as well when listening to music. Multi-channel is more for movies instead of music, but some SACD also in multi-channel where I find it pretty interesting as well. Example one of Ray Charles SACD multi-channel that I have where you can hear his voice coming from left and backup singer on the right, where different instruments are coming from the right and behind. Now that's what I call real image separation and not just imagining. J/k

90% of multi-channel setup (5,7 or 11) out there where the back of sofa are most likely facing against a wall. To create the illusion sound that coming from behind is impossible with this setup. This is why they recommended best seat in the theater is in the middle. So if this is your case, 5.2.1 is plenty good.

I stop use room correction since when it first available on some of high end receiver. I prefer setting my system manually instead of what others like or think the sound to be. Most important is what makes YOU happy not others.

Still get a kick out of wattages rating claim on some of these receivers. 140W x 7 or 11 are listed PEAK not continuous (RMS) power. Most high end receiver that I've seen can produces is 140W x 2 RMS. Things are moving toward class D, so you may get a little higher wattages or same as these company need to cut cost to sell their receiver with similar price as last year or year before with better tech.

Edit - $2700 and no XLR in or out is just BS. Some say in short distance as it doesn't matter and that is not TRUE.

Clicked the link but its coming up at $2799 not $1999