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Minisforum is offering Venus UM790 Pro Mini PC Barebone [minisforum.com] @ $519 - $80 Off via Coupon UM790-80-off = $439 with freee shipping.Coupon will be applied to the Cart automatically.

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32GB Ram + 1TB SSD @ $589 [minisforum.com]
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  • Windows 11 is only shipped with Ram + SSD models.
Spec:
  • Active fan Cooling for SSD and Ram
  • Ryzen 9 7940HS 8C/16T 4 GHz (5.2 GHz Boost, 24MB Cache)
  • Radeon 780M RDNA3 Graphics @ 2800 MHz
  • 2x DDR5 5600 SODIMM Slot (96GB max with Bios v1.09)
  • 2x M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 4x4 Slot
  • M.2 2230 Slot for NIC (Populated)
  • Intel Killer AX1675 Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • DC 19V Adapter
  • 130mm*126mm*52.3mm (5.12*4.96*2.06 inches)
  • Ports:
    • 4x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A 10 Gbps
    • 2x USB4 Type-C Port (Alt Power Delivery, DisplayPort 1.4, 8K@60Hz/4K@144Hz)
    • 2x HDMI 2.1 (4K@144Hz, 8K@60Hz)
    • 1x RJ-45 2.5Gbps Ethernet (Realtek RTL8125)
    • 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
    • 1x DMIC
    • 1x Clear CMOS
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MyBallsItch
05-10-2024 at 03:29 AM.
05-10-2024 at 03:29 AM.
Quote from Skitch Beatz :
It's actually a pretty capable mini gaming box. I threw SteamOS on mine and am having a blast.
I've never tried SteamOS, but I have tried amazon luna and GeforceNow. I'm assuming that's a similar streaming service where the games run remotely so you don't need much video performance?

It would be totally fine for some types of games, but I wasn't satisfied with either streaming service I tried with fast first person shooters. Better than nothing, but not as good as a cheap video card running the game locally like a 6600xt.
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05-10-2024 at 08:04 AM.
05-10-2024 at 08:04 AM.
The 32gb/1Tb option isn't available to be shipped to the US. Hopefully, they can soon. If not then I'll be buying the bare bone from Amazon instead
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05-10-2024 at 11:05 AM.
05-10-2024 at 11:05 AM.
Quote from MyBallsItch :
I've never tried SteamOS, but I have tried amazon luna and GeforceNow. I'm assuming that's a similar streaming service where the games run remotely so you don't need much video performance?

It would be totally fine for some types of games, but I wasn't satisfied with either streaming service I tried with fast first person shooters. Better than nothing, but not as good as a cheap video card running the game locally like a 6600xt.
Bad assumption with OS in the name. It's a Linux distro developed by Valve. Steam decks run on it. Not cloud offering as the services you compared it with.
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05-10-2024 at 12:20 PM.
05-10-2024 at 12:20 PM.
Amazon has all these for a $10 premium for those that don't want to wait eons for it to be shipped and also want better customer service in case you need to return it.

https://a.co/d/hmbH2OF
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05-10-2024 at 07:38 PM.
05-10-2024 at 07:38 PM.
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Bad assumption with OS in the name. It's a Linux distro developed by Valve. Steam decks run on it. Not cloud offering as the services you compared it with.
I know it's a version of linux, but I thought it's purpose was to be a thin gaming client for remote streaming, don't see the point otherwise.

I've never bothered to try it because they don't have the only game I still play any more, and I don't even play that one much.
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05-10-2024 at 07:59 PM.
05-10-2024 at 07:59 PM.
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No, I looked it up to see where it stands and found:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com...vsm1553183 [userbenchmark.com]

That site gives the 5600g +3% effective speed over this 7940hs.

That's not to say the 5600g is faster in all respects, it's obviously not, but the gpu in this will seriously limit what it's capable of.

When looking it up I also sought to compare the GPU effective speed and found this:

"AMD's Radeon 780M integrated graphics get close to GTX 1650"

So basically not that much above the integrated graphics in the 5600g, but with a 5600g desktop you're not limited to the built in GPU.

I have two hp desktops with 5600g and 5700g, and rx5500 and 6600xt video, both are better gaming systems and the cheaper one was only $200 as a refurb and it came with ram and ssd and windows license, that's not a barebones price. Even the cheap one came with a 400w power supply, so it's not limited to the slow video card it came with either.

I'm sure some people will have special use cases where video speed plays no role, but that's probably not most people.
Check some actual reviews where thhey compare real benchmarks like Cinebench, Blender, Floating point, arithmatic and gaming, instead of giving points based on centiments and values.
Like this one below: https://technical.city/en/cpu/Ryz...n-7-7840HS or https://www.topcpu.net/en/cpu-c/a...en-5-5600g
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05-11-2024 at 04:47 AM.
05-11-2024 at 04:47 AM.
I don't get the use case for these little sweat boxes. Is it just so you can hide it in your entertainment center?
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05-11-2024 at 09:11 AM.
05-11-2024 at 09:11 AM.
I am very surprised - the 7940HS cpu clearly leads in benchmarks (assuming they test with similar configs), yet how come average users reported differently with actual box? Is it that the MBs for 7940HS limiting its potential - or average users rarely user all the cores?

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No, I looked it up to see where it stands and found:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com...vsm1553183

That site gives the 5600g +3% effective speed over this 7940hs.

That's not to say the 5600g is faster in all respects, it's obviously not, but the gpu in this will seriously limit what it's capable of.

When looking it up I also sought to compare the GPU effective speed and found this:

"AMD's Radeon 780M integrated graphics get close to GTX 1650"

So basically not that much above the integrated graphics in the 5600g, but with a 5600g desktop you're not limited to the built in GPU.

I have two hp desktops with 5600g and 5700g, and rx5500 and 6600xt video, both are better gaming systems and the cheaper one was only $200 as a refurb and it came with ram and ssd and windows license, that's not a barebones price. Even the cheap one came with a 400w power supply, so it's not limited to the slow video card it came with either.

I'm sure some people will have special use cases where video speed plays no role, but that's probably not most people.
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05-11-2024 at 09:22 AM.
05-11-2024 at 09:22 AM.
Quote from MyBallsItch :
I know it's a version of linux, but I thought it's purpose was to be a thin gaming client for remote streaming, don't see the point otherwise.

I've never bothered to try it because they don't have the only game I still play any more, and I don't even play that one much.
It does remote streaming but your major assumption is incorrect. Its primary purpose is a gaming console OS.
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05-11-2024 at 09:31 AM.
05-11-2024 at 09:31 AM.
Quote from MyBallsItch :
No, I looked it up to see where it stands and found:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com...vsm1553183

That site gives the 5600g +3% effective speed over this 7940hs.

That's not to say the 5600g is faster in all respects, it's obviously not, but the gpu in this will seriously limit what it's capable of.

When looking it up I also sought to compare the GPU effective speed and found this:

"AMD's Radeon 780M integrated graphics get close to GTX 1650"

So basically not that much above the integrated graphics in the 5600g, but with a 5600g desktop you're not limited to the built in GPU.

I have two hp desktops with 5600g and 5700g, and rx5500 and 6600xt video, both are better gaming systems and the cheaper one was only $200 as a refurb and it came with ram and ssd and windows license, that's not a barebones price. Even the cheap one came with a 400w power supply, so it's not limited to the slow video card it came with either.

I'm sure some people will have special use cases where video speed plays no role, but that's probably not most people.
I stopped reading when you pulled up user benchmarks.

Please don't use that garbage site.
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05-11-2024 at 03:48 PM.
05-11-2024 at 03:48 PM.
Quote from AGA7d :
I am very surprised - the 7940HS cpu clearly leads in benchmarks (assuming they test with similar configs), yet how come average users reported differently with actual box? Is it that the MBs for 7940HS limiting its potential - or average users rarely user all the cores?
Average users aren't manipulating data in large databases or doing things that are only processor dependent, gaming is what the average user uses to judge the speed of their system.

A chip like this with integrated GPU will appear crippled in that regard even compared to really cheap and older discrete graphics cards and older processors.

This processor absolutely leads a 5600g desktop in raw processing power, but that alone doesn't mean anything in gaming.

Benchmarks don't make your system feel fast to the average user.

Also, most games are still only optimized for 4-6 cpu cores and they're highly GPU dependent so all that speed shown in benchmarks isn't being achieved.

It would be like having a 700hp engine in your car mated to a transmission that is geared way too low and a clutch that's slipping, on a car that is a sealed unit to where you can't fix the clutch or the transmission. Even if the HP rating is 100% accurate the car can be routinely outrun by a 10 year old prius.
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05-11-2024 at 11:02 PM.
05-11-2024 at 11:02 PM.
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Average users aren't manipulating data in large databases or doing things that are only processor dependent, gaming is what the average user uses to judge the speed of their system.

A chip like this with integrated GPU will appear crippled in that regard even compared to really cheap and older discrete graphics cards and older processors.

This processor absolutely leads a 5600g desktop in raw processing power, but that alone doesn't mean anything in gaming.

Benchmarks don't make your system feel fast to the average user.

Also, most games are still only optimized for 4-6 cpu cores and they're highly GPU dependent so all that speed shown in benchmarks isn't being achieved.

It would be like having a 700hp engine in your car mated to a transmission that is geared way too low and a clutch that's slipping, on a car that is a sealed unit to where you can't fix the clutch or the transmission. Even if the HP rating is 100% accurate the car can be routinely outrun by a 10 year old prius.
Apart from raw processing power, this processor has a way more powerful integrated GPU which alone can provide huge difference in Console like game playing. On top of that, being a RDNA 3 based GPU, it supports advanced features like all versions of FSR, Frame generation tech like FSR 3, game independent Fluid Motion Frames, which can improve game playing experience by huge margin. Not sure how hard these for you.
You have already shifted your argument of 5600G being as powerful as this one and now trying hard to change the narrative by saying that normal people won't need it. People who need it will understand and get this over your 5600G and absolutely understand the advantages.
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05-12-2024 at 01:24 AM.
05-12-2024 at 01:24 AM.
Quote from Suryasis :
Apart from raw processing power, this processor has a way more powerful integrated GPU which alone can provide huge difference in Console like game playing. On top of that, being a RDNA 3 based GPU, it supports advanced features like all versions of FSR, Frame generation tech like FSR 3, game independent Fluid Motion Frames, which can improve game playing experience by huge margin. Not sure how hard these for you.
You have already shifted your argument of 5600G being as powerful as this one and now trying hard to change the narrative by saying that normal people won't need it. People who need it will understand and get this over your 5600G and absolutely understand the advantages.
I shifted nothing, either I didn't make what I was saying clear enough before or you completely misunderstood what I was trying to say all along.

Most people do not need a system in this price range AT ALL.

If they do, it's usually because they want gaming performance, and if they do want gaming performance then they'd be better served with anything like a 5600g or better desktop that can take a real video card.

A 5600g desktop with a 6600xt video card is nothing special, it doesn't have more CPU power, but it will walk all over this in gaming performance.

Most people would have no use for a CPU this powerful with a GPU this weak.

This is a niche product with a big bottleneck that really only makes sense for specific uses that are not typical.
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05-12-2024 at 02:12 AM.
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I shifted nothing, either I didn't make what I was saying clear enough before or you completely misunderstood what I was trying to say all along.

Most people do not need a system in this price range AT ALL.

If they do, it's usually because they want gaming performance, and if they do want gaming performance then they'd be better served with anything like a 5600g or better desktop that can take a real video card.

A 5600g desktop with a 6600xt video card is nothing special, it doesn't have more CPU power, but it will walk all over this in gaming performance.

Most people would have no use for a CPU this powerful with a GPU this weak.

This is a niche product with a big bottleneck that really only makes sense for specific uses that are not typical.
Did most of the people reach out to you and inform that they don't need these kind of systems? What you're doingg here is justifying the usecases for others based on your own predifined mindset for your type of works or usecases. But the thing is on the on the contrary, these mini PCs have been gaming popularity continiously for the last couple of years and there are plenty use cases. As per the analysis done by Allied Market Research, the mini PC market was of 22.1 Billion Dollar and it is going to be a whopping $33 Billion by 2032.


Even in this thread, plenty of people mentioned different usecases and the thing is gaming is never the main usecase for these kind of PCs. Look for some other threads for similar mini PC deals and you'll see that people have been discussing tons of different usecases for these Mini PCs.
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05-12-2024 at 04:48 AM.
05-12-2024 at 04:48 AM.
Just want to throw it out there: the next gen apu, which suppose to debut starting fall of this year, would almost double the graphic performance, make it actually game ready.
The current apu (which I have) is just too slow to run most game at 1080 high at stable 60 fps
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