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Been keeping an eye on these and happened to check the price today. Haven't seen it go on sale recently and wish I was ready to pull the trigger.
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Been keeping an eye on these and happened to check the price today. Haven't seen it go on sale recently and wish I was ready to pull the trigger.
https://www.denon.com/en-us/produ...8-new.html
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Since Onkyo comes with Dirac Live, I'd probably go that route if I had to do it again.
Since Onkyo comes with Dirac Live, I'd probably go that route if I had to do it again.
The audible difference between it and this is minimal, with external amp good luck noticing a difference.
The advantages/gains over the RZ50:
DLBC option, possibly ART in the future.
4 independent sub outs vs 2 parallel.
Pre amp mode for all 11 channels independently.
All channels are assignable.
No power limiting issue with 4 & 6 ohm speakers.
New directional sub integration, same concept as DLBC.
Pretty much what they added on the RZ70 with exception only 2 independent sub outs, pre amp mode only for L/R fronts OR all channels & unlikely no option for ART.
IF you find you do need Dirac, both are right there.
Wait until December when Dirac regularly offers a 30% discount and get both for $560!
DLBC is well worth the cost imo.
At that price nothing comes close!
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The audible difference between it and this is minimal, with external amp good luck noticing a difference.
The advantages/gains over the RZ50:
DLBC option, possibly ART in the future.
4 independent sub outs vs 2 parallel.
Pre amp mode for all 11 channels independently.
All channels are assignable.
No power limiting issue with 4 & 6 ohm speakers.
New directional sub integration, same concept as DLBC.
Pretty much what they added on the RZ70 with exception only 2 independent sub outs, pre amp mode only for L/R fronts OR all channels & unlikely no option for ART.
IF you find you do need Dirac, both are right there.
Wait until December when Dirac regularly offers a 30% discount and get both for $560!
DLBC is well worth the cost imo.
At that price nothing comes close!
I haven't had the time to recalibrate but i spent at least 4-5 hours setting it up several times trying to calibrate it perfectly. DL is amazing, but DLBC in my situation wasn't a game changer and made my movies sound flat and totally lost the kick/feel of a home theatre (dual Klipsch SPL-120's)
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I haven't had the time to recalibrate but i spent at least 4-5 hours setting it up several times trying to calibrate it perfectly. DL is amazing, but DLBC in my situation wasn't a game changer and made my movies sound flat and totally lost the kick/feel of a home theatre (dual Klipsch SPL-120's)
I haven't had the time to recalibrate but i spent at least 4-5 hours setting it up several times trying to calibrate it perfectly. DL is amazing, but DLBC in my situation wasn't a game changer and made my movies sound flat and totally lost the kick/feel of a home theatre (dual Klipsch SPL-120's)
Bass Management: Dirac Live filters are designed such that each subwoofer in the arrangement contributes equally to matching the drawn target curve.
A system with 1 subwoofer will adjust this subwoofer so that it matches the curve, while a system with 2 or more subwoofers will scale the volume (or gain) of each subwoofer so that they collectively add up to provide the drawn response.
However, it will not consider any destructive interference between the speakers.
Bass Control: Dirac Live filters harmonize the subwoofers and non-subwoofer speakers in the lower frequencies using tailor-made phase filters, delays, and gains."
I highly recommend watching this video.
Renowned AV professional worked directly with Dirac for these tips and tricks.
1. Watch calibration setup starting at around 5:00, covers common confusion/mistakes.
2. Starting at around 12:00 he covers what you are probably talking about, it's common because often people never heard it before.
3. Starting at around 15:30 he starts explaining differences between DL & DLBC and how to use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjWZUZ1
Another suggestion with two subs place front/back or left/right depending on layout.
I would also try the Directional sub setting in Audyssey, works much like DLBC.
Hope it helps and good luck.
I haven't had the time to recalibrate but i spent at least 4-5 hours setting it up several times trying to calibrate it perfectly. DL is amazing, but DLBC in my situation wasn't a game changer and made my movies sound flat and totally lost the kick/feel of a home theatre (dual Klipsch SPL-120's)
https://www.avsforum.co
https://www.avsforum.co
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/...9/page-494 [avsforum.com]
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/...19#replies [avsforum.com]
It sounds completely gutted even after I put +10-15db on both subwoofers (which just makes it louder but loses the boominess). I just switch back to Audyssy during films.
https://imgur.com/a/OHKfMHs
It sounds completely gutted even after I put +10-15db on both subwoofers (which just makes it louder but loses the boominess). I just switch back to Audyssy during films.
https://imgur.com/a/OHKfMHs
FYI, I attached my two target curves for my subwoofers and Front Left, Front Right for reference.
You had also mentioned increasing DB for your SW. Did you do your "boosting" of the SW via:
a) Dirac itself
b) AVR setting
c) Gain knob on the SW
d) All of the above
Slickdeals is not the best place to receive this type of help. Did you try any of the AVS links I posted?
Edit: Just saw your pics. Looks like you have a +10dB slope for the speakers but I can't tell where your crossover is at. Did you leave it at the default 70 Hz and forget to hit Calculate?
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