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16" Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer Expired

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Adorama has 16" Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer (1070652, Ebony Vinyl) on sale for $999. Shipping is free.

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Product Details:
  • Spun Copper Front-Firing Cerametallic Woofers
  • High Efficiency Class-D Amplifier
  • Front-Firing Slot Port With Exclusive Internal Flare Technology
  • Flexible Controls
  • 1/2-Watt Standby Mode
  • Inputs: Dual RCA/LFE Line In, WA-2 Wireless Port
  • Dimensions (H x W x D): 23.39 x 23.50 x 27.35" (59.4 x 59.7 x 69.5cm)
  • Weight: 110.9 lbs (50.3kg)

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Model: Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 16" 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer

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The 14" has better output between 20-55hz, so it's better for music. The 16" has better output in the subsonic range so it will be better for movies.

Overall, the 14" already has very good power, great extension, and is the best value as it's currently competing with other $1,000-$1,500 subs on the market. It's also about the biggest subwoofer I can pick up and carry myself, I probably wouldn't be able to get my arms under/around the 16" to pick it up off the ground and move it across the house if needed as it's quite a bit bigger (120L vs. 168L) and you can't slide these subs on their rubber feet.

Here is the frequency response comparison between the RP-1400 and RP-1600 (check the 4th image at the top): https://www.reddit.com/r/homethea...subs_from/
I have two 1400sw and there is no port chuffing...as many reviewers would agree. Where are you getting this conclusion?
These subs are being sold at extremely high discounts because inflated MSRP + massive discount is Klipsch's standard M.O.

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05-11-2024 at 11:34 AM.

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Quote from boobernackle :
These subwoofers are being sold at these extremely high discounts due to significant port chuffing at even moderate volumes when playing the low frequencies, which is where the subwoofer is most active.

They were released with a lot of fanfare to tackle other brands like SVS, but sadly the port chuffing is significant. I expect these to be redesigned in the not so distant future.
Source? First I'm hearing about it. My RP-1400 has zero chuff.
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05-11-2024 at 01:41 PM.
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Source? First I'm hearing about it. My RP-1400 has zero chuff.
I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong here but this would depend on frequency and volume. I don't recall the sample but I read someone say they've never heard a subwoofer that didn't have port noise when playing this one particular piece at volume

So everyone's ymmv with stereo equipment in different rooms with different content
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05-11-2024 at 02:24 PM.
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Quote from jmonster :
I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong here but this would depend on frequency and volume. I don't recall the sample but I read someone say they've never heard a subwoofer that didn't have port noise when playing this one particular piece at volume

So everyone's ymmv with stereo equipment in different rooms with different content
Fair, but that's a lot less extreme than what boobernackle said "These subwoofers are being sold at these extremely high discounts due to significant port chuffing at even moderate volumes when playing the low frequencies". I haven't seen any evidence of that (and if there is, I'd like to see it because I'm considering getting a second).
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05-11-2024 at 02:58 PM.
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Is it really worth another $300 for an even bigger box? Asking genuinely as I've been waffling over the 14 and everyone was glowing about how it's the best

The 14" is monstrous in size and output - I cannot use it near to its potential without my house coming down and my neighbors breaching my property line with pitchforks … I can't imagine what I would do with an even larger box lol
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05-11-2024 at 07:05 PM.
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Quote from bbier :
The 14" has better output between 20-55hz, so it's better for music. The 16" has better output in the subsonic range so it will be better for movies.

Overall, the 14" already has very good power, great extension, and is the best value as it's currently competing with other $1,000-$1,500 subs on the market. It's also about the biggest subwoofer I can pick up and carry myself, I probably wouldn't be able to get my arms under/around the 16" to pick it up off the ground and move it across the house if needed as it's quite a bit bigger (120L vs. 168L) and you can't slide these subs on their rubber feet.

Here is the frequency response comparison between the RP-1400 and RP-1600 (check the 4th image at the top): https://www.reddit.com/r/homethea...subs_from/

good chart. The 1400 is pretty close to the old 15 (r-115sw and spl150). The 1600 is significantly improved but a lot more expensive. I have the 1400 and wish I got the 1600.
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05-11-2024 at 08:50 PM.
05-11-2024 at 08:50 PM.
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Source? First I'm hearing about it. My RP-1400 has zero chuff.
https://www.audioholics.com/subwo...1600sw-sub

A minor problem that I noted was that somewhat loud drive levels under 20Hz could push the RP-1600SW into port turbulence. It needed to be pushed to make that happen, but it didn't need to be pushed really hard.

"It didn't need to be pushed really hard" ...For movies, this is an issue where you can have bass heavy scenes with no other audio... for music, the port chuffing can be masked by other frequencies playing at the same time.

Just jump to the conclusions if you don't want to read the whole article. Other reviews state the same. I have the 10" version I bought open box that I haven't experienced port chuffing, but that's because I use it in my racing simulator.

Audioholics is one of the most trusted sources when it comes to Home theater reviews, no BS at all. Although at this price of $999 for a sub of this capability, it's a bargain, just know its limitations and why these are being sold at this price. These are designed to go against what SVS has, but they're having to slash the prices for a reason. Just trying to inform SD'ers to know what they're getting, a great sub at an incredible price, but with one major issue.
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05-11-2024 at 09:06 PM.
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Quote from jmonster :
I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong here but this would depend on frequency and volume. I don't recall the sample but I read someone say they've never heard a subwoofer that didn't have port noise when playing this one particular piece at volume

So everyone's ymmv with stereo equipment in different rooms with different content
They're likely referring to the opening scene of the movie "Edge of Tomorrow", in particular the Blu Ray version and not the 4K version. In the 4K version of the movie, they ended up changing the frequency of the bass note considerably. This is why people also run multiple subwoofers in a home theater, to provide a more consistent seat to seat bass experience with EQ (your room WILL influence the performance of a subwoofer more than any other speaker), while also providing additional headroom for each sub since it doesn't have to work as hard to pressurize a room.

At $999 each, you can get two of these for less than one PB-16 Ultra and neither of them will have to work as hard, so less chance of port chuffing.
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HSU has two Subs around this price,

VTF-3 MK5 HP at 999 has strong performance down to 18 Hz.

ULS-15 MK2 at 989 is a sealed design and a audioholics 2023 Xmas Christmas choice.
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These subwoofers are being sold at these extremely high discounts due to significant port chuffing at even moderate volumes when playing the low frequencies, which is where the subwoofer is most active.

They were released with a lot of fanfare to tackle other brands like SVS, but sadly the port chuffing is significant. I expect these to be redesigned in the not so distant future.

These subs are being sold at extremely high discounts because inflated MSRP + massive discount is Klipsch's standard M.O.
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How long will this deal be valid?
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Quote from jmonster :
I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong here but this would depend on frequency and volume. I don't recall the sample but I read someone say they've never heard a subwoofer that didn't have port noise when playing this one particular piece at volume

So everyone's ymmv with stereo equipment in different rooms with different content
Probably the intro to Edge of Tomorrow. My sealed subs never chuff. https://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
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I saw someone claim that you can't stack RP-1400's because of the way their rubber feet are aligned. But you can stack a 14 on top of a 16 though, right? ಠ_ಠ
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I have two Klipsch 15" subs with a total of 4 bad amps. One of the subs works because I swapped parts on the amp to "make" a good one... I would consider getting a new sub but I have worries of having more amp problems with Klipsch.
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Quote from bbier :
The 14" has better output between 20-55hz, so it's better for music. The 16" has better output in the subsonic range so it will be better for movies.

Overall, the 14" already has very good power, great extension, and is the best value as it's currently competing with other $1,000-$1,500 subs on the market. It's also about the biggest subwoofer I can pick up and carry myself, I probably wouldn't be able to get my arms under/around the 16" to pick it up off the ground and move it across the house if needed as it's quite a bit bigger (120L vs. 168L) and you can't slide these subs on their rubber feet.

Here is the frequency response comparison between the RP-1400 and RP-1600 (check the 4th image at the top): https://www.reddit.com/r/homethea...subs_from/ [reddit.com]
Show me some third party CEA-2010 measurements, like from Audioholics. That reddit thread just has "nominal volume" which means nothing. These subs can go way, way over 100db no problem. Both the 1400 and 1600 will be excellent for music, and the 1600 will probably be able to a bit louder without distortion. Maybe 3-6db louder is my guess, but without measurements, we have no chance of knowing for sure.
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While these subs are greatly improved over the previous model which could easily be coerced into chuffing, the newer model does use flared ports to help but not eliminate this issue. You can still make it chuff but not as easily and has been noted in various owners thread.

What disappoints me the most is pricing. For a new model the discount level of almost 50% does indicate the real price point / value of this sub. Good overall performance but does lack the level of adjustment that other subs offer. digging deeper inside you will find that the construction items like bracing are not up to other more expensive subs, so definitely built to a price point.
I'm sure there's a possibility of chuffing. Audioholics doesn't play. I'm surprised they didn't measure the sound, though. I'd be shocked if it's audible more than .01% of the time. How often are you blasting the sub but nothing else? Perhaps in a few annoying movies.

That all said, I'd get two 1400s over one 1600, and I'd get three 1400s over two 1600s, but I except that one 1400 is more than enough for 99.99% of us. I have a 1400 and I have an SVS PB16 in separate rooms, and I have to turn both of them way the hell down despite having pretty strong speakers with both.
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