I have been looking forward for the Windows ARM release on the new SnapDragon chip and was browsing the available models and saw bestbuy had all of them listed together a long with the TV promo.
Seems decent enough, some of the HP and Lenovo computers are $1199 with the new Snapdragon Chip for Windows AR and Copilot-PC. The TV should be worth $150-$200? This makes the computer $1199 minus the TV cost gives you a $999-$1049 machine with fastest and energy efficient chip for Windows, OLED, 16GB RAM and 256-512GB SSD.
Promo on the webpage says -
Purchase a Copilot+ PC device below, and a free 50" class TV will be added automatically.
When you buy a Samsung device below, get a Samsung 50" Class DU7200 Series 4K UHD TV.
When you buy a Surface, HP, Lenovo or Dell device below, get an Insignia™ 50" Class F30 Series 4K UHD TV.
Looks good but I wanna run it myself to see how it is.
I think I will want the surface pro so I can replace an ipad. 1.97 lbs 13" Surface Pro vs. 1.28lb IPad 13" (more use cases on the surface pro though)
It has been stated these chips are cheaper than their intel and amd counterparts. These incentives for 50" TVs that no one wants, cost to ship those TVs. We'd all be better off if they just dropped the launch price of these products and not include a TV like they will in a few months.
Honestly one nice thing I'm liking about these computers though is they mostly seem to come with good screens and a good amount of ram and storage. I'm excited as well, and will definitely be demoing one at work.
It has been stated these chips are cheaper than their intel and amd counterparts. These incentives for 50" TVs that no one wants, cost to ship those TVs. We'd all be better off if they just dropped the launch price of these products and not include a TV like they will in a few months.
Honestly one nice thing I'm liking about these computers though is they mostly seem to come with good screens and a good amount of ram and storage. I'm excited as well, and will definitely be demoing one at work.
Good luck with Recall. It's still just a big intrusive with the way it screenshots everything. Forgetting porn, corporate secrets be damned as Recall captures everything. I think the privacy settings will be hidden and hard to believe nothing will ever be used or better yet hacked and corporate secrets are all inside of the Recall repo!!
Page 24 is about Emulation performance which may be more intersting for you if you're testing it at work
To measure the performance of Lightroom
Classic we used the PugetBench tool, and
the results are impressive. Not only is the
new Surface Laptop with the X Elite CPU 30% faster than the previous generation
Surface Laptop 5 with the 12th Gen Core i7
(that is obviously running the app natively),
but it matches performance of the new
Intel Core Ultra.
Emulated performance on the
new Surface is outperforming
even the native performance
of the 12th Gen Core i7
Good luck with Recall. It's still just a big intrusive with the way it screenshots everything. Forgetting porn, corporate secrets be damned as Recall captures everything. I think the privacy settings will be hidden and hard to believe nothing will ever be used or better yet hacked and corporate secrets are all inside of the Recall repo!!
Page 24 is about Emulation performance which may be more intersting for you if you're testing it at work
To measure the performance of Lightroom
Classic we used the PugetBench tool, and
the results are impressive. Not only is the
new Surface Laptop with the X Elite CPU 30% faster than the previous generation
Surface Laptop 5 with the 12th Gen Core i7
(that is obviously running the app natively),
but it matches performance of the new
Intel Core Ultra.
Emulated performance on the
new Surface is outperforming
even the native performance
of the 12th Gen Core i7
I'm the sysadmin at work. You can darn well bet it'll be members of IT testing out these laptops before we roll them out to anyone. Especially locking down recall but more urgently important is seeing how our business apps run on these computers.
IT needs to know before management determines: "oh there are windows laptops with good battery life? Roll them out org wide."
I'm the sysadmin at work. You can darn well bet it'll be members of IT testing out these laptops before we roll them out to anyone. Especially locking down recall but more urgently important is seeing how our business apps run on these computers.
IT needs to know before management determines: "oh there are windows laptops with good battery life? Roll them out org wide."
You can't just test these PCs out beforehand and be done with it. This is Microsoft, we all know how much they like to randomly reactivate features, change your defaults, etc. Recall is something businesses are going to have to actively keep an eye on. It's such a big risk, the hassle doesn't seem worth it for a business.
You can't just test these PCs out beforehand and be done with it. This is Microsoft, we all know how much they like to randomly reactivate features, change your defaults, etc. Recall is something businesses are going to have to actively keep an eye on. It's such a big risk, the hassle doesn't seem worth it for a business.
You act like recall is going to be exclusive to this silicon. Like Intel and AMD aren't also developing system-on-chips and driving towards AI compute performance. I'd say we're lucky Microsoft isn't rolling it out universally on their OS yet. Because they most assuredly will at some point.
I guess samsung has a better offer with a free 65 inches crystal clear tv andsame price for the laptop and the opportunity to get 12 to 15% of cashback from a week known site.
This copilot crap has completely pushed me away from Windows. Not interested at all in having my entire computer history archived for all of eternity in MS's AI. I will be looking for a MacBook soon. RIP all my windows machines
You can't just test these PCs out beforehand and be done with it. This is Microsoft, we all know how much they like to randomly reactivate features, change your defaults, etc. Recall is something businesses are going to have to actively keep an eye on. It's such a big risk, the hassle doesn't seem worth it for a business.
He would be on LTSC, very unlikely anything get reactivated, especially without them knowing.
You can't just test these PCs out beforehand and be done with it. This is Microsoft, we all know how much they like to randomly reactivate features, change your defaults, etc. Recall is something businesses are going to have to actively keep an eye on. It's such a big risk, the hassle doesn't seem worth it for a business.
Yes. I love the new chip and promise of performance and battery's but Microsoft has gone crazy with Recall and it's going to be the biggest security risk. lol
I would personally wait until we get more independent reviews on these laptops, not just Microsoft sponsored ones. Honestly this promo deal where they are tossing in a whole free TV right off the bat is making me a bit skeptical about how they will perform in the real world.
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HP might be bad for cheaper later, I'm not sure how deep they make their discounts. Lenovo frequently does deep cuts.
HP might be bad for cheaper later, I'm not sure how deep they make their discounts. Lenovo frequently does deep cuts.
Here is some comparison of the performance I have been looking up and searching around beyond just the Microsoft's own keynote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...1uM
Looks good but I wanna run it myself to see how it is.
I think I will want the surface pro so I can replace an ipad. 1.97 lbs 13" Surface Pro vs. 1.28lb IPad 13" (more use cases on the surface pro though)
Here is some comparison of the performance I have been looking up and searching around beyond just the Microsoft's own keynote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...1uM
Looks good but I wanna run it myself to see how it is.
I think I will want the surface pro so I can replace an ipad. 1.97 lbs 13" Surface Pro vs. 1.28lb IPad 13" (more use cases on the surface pro though)
It has been stated these chips are cheaper than their intel and amd counterparts. These incentives for 50" TVs that no one wants, cost to ship those TVs. We'd all be better off if they just dropped the launch price of these products and not include a TV like they will in a few months.
Honestly one nice thing I'm liking about these computers though is they mostly seem to come with good screens and a good amount of ram and storage. I'm excited as well, and will definitely be demoing one at work.
Honestly one nice thing I'm liking about these computers though is they mostly seem to come with good screens and a good amount of ram and storage. I'm excited as well, and will definitely be demoing one at work.
Early benchmarks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn4KMuv
Signal65 looks to be commissioned by Microsoft that did the benchmark to show Surface Laptop's performance.
https://signal65.com/wp-content/u..._r1.01.pdf
Page 24 is about Emulation performance which may be more intersting for you if you're testing it at work
To measure the performance of Lightroom
Classic we used the PugetBench tool, and
the results are impressive. Not only is the
new Surface Laptop with the X Elite CPU
30% faster than the previous generation
Surface Laptop 5 with the 12th Gen Core i7
(that is obviously running the app natively),
but it matches performance of the new
Intel Core Ultra.
Emulated performance on the
new Surface is outperforming
even the native performance
of the 12th Gen Core i7
Early benchmarks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn4KMuv
Signal65 looks to be commissioned by Microsoft that did the benchmark to show Surface Laptop's performance.
https://signal65.com/wp-content/u..._r1.01.pdf
Page 24 is about Emulation performance which may be more intersting for you if you're testing it at work
To measure the performance of Lightroom
Classic we used the PugetBench tool, and
the results are impressive. Not only is the
new Surface Laptop with the X Elite CPU
30% faster than the previous generation
Surface Laptop 5 with the 12th Gen Core i7
(that is obviously running the app natively),
but it matches performance of the new
Intel Core Ultra.
Emulated performance on the
new Surface is outperforming
even the native performance
of the 12th Gen Core i7
I'm the sysadmin at work. You can darn well bet it'll be members of IT testing out these laptops before we roll them out to anyone. Especially locking down recall but more urgently important is seeing how our business apps run on these computers.
IT needs to know before management determines: "oh there are windows laptops with good battery life? Roll them out org wide."
IT needs to know before management determines: "oh there are windows laptops with good battery life? Roll them out org wide."
You act like recall is going to be exclusive to this silicon. Like Intel and AMD aren't also developing system-on-chips and driving towards AI compute performance. I'd say we're lucky Microsoft isn't rolling it out universally on their OS yet. Because they most assuredly will at some point.
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Yes. I love the new chip and promise of performance and battery's but Microsoft has gone crazy with Recall and it's going to be the biggest security risk. lol