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forum threadoffbeat posted May 29, 2024 02:52 AM
forum threadoffbeat posted May 29, 2024 02:52 AM

Chase Pay Over Time ZERO fee using Costco Gold Bullion, YMMV

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Through June 30, 2024 Chase is offering ZERO fees on their "Pay Over Time" (POT) product. I believe it is only eligible on the first "plan". Maybe be targeted. POT may be available only on certain Chase cards YMMV

https://www.chase.com/personal/cr...ffersocial

Using the promo, I found a loophole for a 24-month no cost loan.

HERE'S WHAT I DID
I purchased 5x 100g PAMP Fortuna Gold Bars in a single transaction totaling $40K.

As soon as the transaction posted on my card, I activated the POT plan with zero fee.

Gains:
  • Interest-free and fee-free loan
  • 1 to 1 United Miles (United Quest)
  • 2% Costco Executive reward near max ($1,000)
  • Gains on selling gold this week to my bullion dealer
  • Investing the cash? Keeping the gold for potential gains? Stashing in savings account?
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Through June 30, 2024 Chase is offering ZERO fees on their "Pay Over Time" (POT) product. I believe it is only eligible on the first "plan". Maybe be targeted. POT may be available only on certain Chase cards YMMV

https://www.chase.com/personal/cr...ffersocial

Using the promo, I found a loophole for a 24-month no cost loan.

HERE'S WHAT I DID
I purchased 5x 100g PAMP Fortuna Gold Bars in a single transaction totaling $40K.

As soon as the transaction posted on my card, I activated the POT plan with zero fee.

Gains:
  • Interest-free and fee-free loan
  • 1 to 1 United Miles (United Quest)
  • 2% Costco Executive reward near max ($1,000)
  • Gains on selling gold this week to my bullion dealer
  • Investing the cash? Keeping the gold for potential gains? Stashing in savings account?

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May 29, 2024 02:57 AM
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theandrewgordon
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May 29, 2024 02:57 AM
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Seems like a nice way to borrow for *free* or better. Good looking out!
May 29, 2024 03:00 AM
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tucsonlocalMay 29, 2024 03:00 AM
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Great find… 40k x2 years @ 5% interest = ~4k
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May 29, 2024 03:02 AM
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Quote from tucsonlocal :
Great find… 40k x2 years @ 5% interest = ~4k
Or you can invest wisely the 40K for higher gains?
May 29, 2024 03:04 AM
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tucsonlocalMay 29, 2024 03:04 AM
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Quote from offbeat :
Or you can invest wisely the 40K for higher gains?
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AFC118May 29, 2024 03:09 AM
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Quote from tucsonlocal :
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Lmao I think they call those YOLO calls 🤣🤣🤣
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MysteriousKarmaMay 29, 2024 03:11 AM
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Quote from offbeat :
Or you can invest wisely the 40K for higher gains?
10% yoy is considered good for index funds but also takes time. 5% is a conservative amount, based on current savings rates, so selling this immediately and dropping in savings account means the only risk you face is that the interest rate drops... Keeping it in gold and or investing, will open up to risk obviously and would no longer be guaranteed.... Considering you need to pay this back over time, you should tread lightly.
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HotwheelMay 29, 2024 03:15 AM
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Quote from tucsonlocal :
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offbeat
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Quote from tucsonlocal :
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Why not Gamestop? AMC?
May 29, 2024 03:26 AM
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actorps1May 29, 2024 03:26 AM
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Awesome for that first POT.. brutal after that, but still cheaper than payday loan for example.

Terms:
Chase Pay Over Time Fee: The Chase Pay Over Time Fee for plans set up after purchase will be $0 for the first Pay Over Time plan you create between 04/01/2024 and 06/30/2024, for the duration of the plan. For all other plans: The Chase Pay Over Time Fee for plans set up after purchase is 1.72% of the amount of each eligible purchase transaction or amount selected to create a Pay Over Time plan. The Pay Over Time Fee will be determined at the time each Pay Over Time plan is created and will remain the same until the Pay Over Time plan balance is paid in full. The Pay Over Time Fee is based on the amount of each purchase transaction selected to create the plan, the number of billing periods you choose to pay the balance in full, and other factors.
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arooniMay 29, 2024 03:32 AM
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May 29, 2024 03:38 AM
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Quote from actorps1 :
Awesome for that first POT.. brutal after that, but still cheaper than payday loan for example.

Terms:
Chase Pay Over Time Fee: The Chase Pay Over Time Fee for plans set up after purchase will be $0 for the first Pay Over Time plan you create between 04/01/2024 and 06/30/2024, for the duration of the plan. For all other plans: The Chase Pay Over Time Fee for plans set up after purchase is 1.72% of the amount of each eligible purchase transaction or amount selected to create a Pay Over Time plan. The Pay Over Time Fee will be determined at the time each Pay Over Time plan is created and will remain the same until the Pay Over Time plan balance is paid in full. The Pay Over Time Fee is based on the amount of each purchase transaction selected to create the plan, the number of billing periods you choose to pay the balance in full, and other factors.
Definitely stick to the introductory POT, make it the largest transaction. Otherwise, you're on your own if you want to pad Chase shareholders.
May 29, 2024 03:50 AM
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zacksoysauceMay 29, 2024 03:50 AM
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Quote from tucsonlocal :
Great find… 40k x2 years @ 5% interest = ~4k
You should be estimating 1 year of interest on the 40k. The loan repayment starts happening from the first month.

This is definitely a great big brain move if you were already planning to buy and hold physical gold anyway, but for me the risk and friction of liquidating that much physical gold outweighs the benefit here. And you need a chase credit card with a 40K line of credit?
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May 29, 2024 03:56 AM
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Quote from zacksoysauce :
You should be estimating 1 year of interest on the 40k. The loan repayment starts happening from the first month.

This is definitely a great big brain move if you were already planning to buy and hold physical gold anyway, but for me the risk and friction of liquidating that much physical gold outweighs the benefit here. And you need a chase credit card with a 40K line of credit?
Right. you need to start paying the minimum plan (for me $1,666 at $40K).
You can use any Chase card that allow POT.
You don't need to hold the gold. That was my example, to buy and dump it back on the market.
The liquidating is covered by the 2% cash back on Executive.
Last edited by offbeat May 28, 2024 at 09:06 PM.
May 29, 2024 04:11 AM
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CyanLeopard7900May 29, 2024 04:11 AM
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The issue here is the churn amount. As others say, if you can pull this off in any meaningful way you probably aren't going to be that much better off having an extra $2k of interest (before tax).

Better off opening a couple new bank accounts (US Bank is offering $600) with zero risk.
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CharlesBarkleyMay 29, 2024 04:12 AM
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Quote from offbeat :
Right. you need to start paying the minimum plan (for me $1,666 at $40K).
You can use any Chase card that allow POT.
You don't need to hold the gold. That was my example, to buy and dump it back on the market.
The liquidating is covered by the 2% cash back on Executive.
Unfortunately I already hit my executive max for this year, maybe if they bring the POT deal around next year again.

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