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30-Pack Deluxe Valley Greene Heirloom Non-GMO Vegetable Garden Seeds

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Black Duck Deals via Amazon has 30-Pack Deluxe Valley Greene Heirloom Non-GMO Vegetable Garden Seeds on sale for $9.99. Shipping is free w/ Prime or on $35+ orders.

Thanks to Community Member Tinkleondabeach2 for finding this deal.

Includes:
  • Burpee Stringless Green Pod Garden Bean
  • Topnotch Golden Wax Garden Bean
  • Detroit Dark Red Beet
  • Calabrese Green Sprouting Broccoli
  • Nantes Coreless Carrots
  • Cubanelle Pepper
  • Stowell's Evergreen Sweetcorn
  • Country Gentleman Sweetcorn
  • Table Queen Squash
  • Chicago Pickling Cucumber
  • Marketmore 76 Cucumber
  • White Spine Cucumber
  • Black Seeded Simpson Lettuce
  • Beefsteak Tomato
  • Garlic Chives
  • Green Arrow Peas
  • Keystone Resistant Giant Pepper
  • Rutgers Tomato
  • Jack O' Lantern Pumpkin
  • Champion Radish
  • Golden Bantam Sweetcorn
  • Parris Island Cos Lettuce
  • Cherry Tomato
  • Purple Top White Globe Turnip
  • Seven Top Turnip
  • Black Beauty Zucchini Squash
  • Early Scarlet Globe Radish
  • Bloomsdale Longstanding Spinach
  • Early Prolific Straightneck Squash
  • Buttercrunch Lettuce

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  • About this Deal:
    • This matches the previous Frontpage Deal from earlier this month.
    • All seeds are dated Sell By December 2024 but if kept in a cool dry place seeds typically stay viable for years.
    • Rated 4.5 stars overall based on over 4,800 reviews.
    • Please see the original post for additional details and give the WIKI and forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
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Black Duck Deals via Amazon has 30-Pack Deluxe Valley Greene Heirloom Non-GMO Vegetable Garden Seeds on sale for $9.99. Shipping is free w/ Prime or on $35+ orders.

Thanks to Community Member Tinkleondabeach2 for finding this deal.

Includes:
  • Burpee Stringless Green Pod Garden Bean
  • Topnotch Golden Wax Garden Bean
  • Detroit Dark Red Beet
  • Calabrese Green Sprouting Broccoli
  • Nantes Coreless Carrots
  • Cubanelle Pepper
  • Stowell's Evergreen Sweetcorn
  • Country Gentleman Sweetcorn
  • Table Queen Squash
  • Chicago Pickling Cucumber
  • Marketmore 76 Cucumber
  • White Spine Cucumber
  • Black Seeded Simpson Lettuce
  • Beefsteak Tomato
  • Garlic Chives
  • Green Arrow Peas
  • Keystone Resistant Giant Pepper
  • Rutgers Tomato
  • Jack O' Lantern Pumpkin
  • Champion Radish
  • Golden Bantam Sweetcorn
  • Parris Island Cos Lettuce
  • Cherry Tomato
  • Purple Top White Globe Turnip
  • Seven Top Turnip
  • Black Beauty Zucchini Squash
  • Early Scarlet Globe Radish
  • Bloomsdale Longstanding Spinach
  • Early Prolific Straightneck Squash
  • Buttercrunch Lettuce

Editor's Notes

Written by citan359 | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • This matches the previous Frontpage Deal from earlier this month.
    • All seeds are dated Sell By December 2024 but if kept in a cool dry place seeds typically stay viable for years.
    • Rated 4.5 stars overall based on over 4,800 reviews.
    • Please see the original post for additional details and give the WIKI and forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
  • About this Store:

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Written by Tinkleondabeach

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jeecay
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Heirloom basically means that the plant you grow can produce seeds that can grow more of the same kind of plant.
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​LOL well let's see . . . I currently have their beefsteek tomato, Detroit dark red beet (almost ready to harvest) keystone resistant giant bell pepper, cubanelle pepper, mammoth dill (not included in the 30 packet offer) and a 2nd round of purple top turnips growing, but it will be a month or so before I can share harvest pictures of most of those. I'm attaching photos of the black seeded simpson lettuce, parris island cos Lettuce, buttercrunch lettuce, 1st round of purple top turnips, and bloomsdale longstanding spinach I harvested last month.
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The other type of plant is a "hybrid." They've crossed two types of tomato, pepper, etc. because that plant will produce veggies that have desirable characteristics. The child plant might produce more, or have a longer growing season, or sweeter fruit, something like that.

But when THAT plant produces seeds, those seeds aren't going to produce the same plant. The "grandchild" plant is going to be different. You can't buy Jalafuego seeds and grow them this year, and then save the seeds and grow more Jalafuegos next year.

Heirloom seeds are not better or worse than hybrids, just a different mindset. I haven't really heard of the term "heirloom" being applied to anything besides tomatoes before (sometimes it's just called "open-pollinated"). With tomatoes you have people that like the idea of really unique tomatoes that they can cultivate over the course of years, and you have people that just want a plant that produces hundreds of super sweet cherry tomatoes and is resistant to disease, and don't mind buying seeds or plants every year.

I've said this in other posts on these same seeds, but I think calling these "heirloom" is a little misleading. The concept of heirloom chives is ridiculous. Chives are a perennial that spread by multiplying bulbs underground, there's no reason to care whether their seeds will grow the same plant. I also can't imagine trying to collect seeds from broccoli or lettuce but maybe people do this? As many people have said, these are not particularly expensive seeds, how could that be worth your time? At any rate there are no health or quality implications with hybrids vs. heirlooms despite what this seller is saying. And of course they throw the GMO scare in there even though you can't even buy GMO seeds at the consumer level.

If it were me, I'd take the $10 and buy 4 or 5 individual packets of vegetables that you really like, and get experience with those. And apart from tomatoes, don't worry about whether they are heirloom.

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Jun 22, 2024 11:37 PM
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bmv_a2Jun 22, 2024 11:37 PM
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I find the Valley Greene seeds brand to be far more reliable (germination rate & plant vigor) than the American Seeds you can get 4/$1 at the Dollar Tree* Our local big box store Menard's often puts them on sale for around 10 cents each, but it's hit or miss what varieties you'll catch in stock, so I consider this amazon deal to be pretty good.



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Quote from bmv_a2 :
I find the Valley Greene seeds brand to be far more reliable (germination rate & plant vigor) than the American Seeds you can get 4/$1 at the Dollar Tree* Our local big box store Menard's often puts them on sale for around 10 cents each, but it's hit or miss what varieties you'll catch in stock, so I consider this amazon deal to be pretty good.



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You can't say it's good without showing us pics of your harvests!
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adam empireJun 23, 2024 12:52 PM
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Menards practically gives these away. Is this just some reseller putting a rubber band around those? I can't imagine this seller is getting these from the seed company.
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Heirloom basically means that the plant you grow can produce seeds that can grow more of the same kind of plant.
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spaceXKJun 23, 2024 02:59 PM
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Quote from adam empire :
Menards practically gives these away. Is this just some reseller putting a rubber band around those? I can't imagine this seller is getting these from the seed company.
Do they give away free seeds? How and where?
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Quote from spaceXK :
Do they give away free seeds? How and where?
Menards has these for like ten or twenty cents each quite often. I don't remember if it is after their rebate or not. I assume it gets people to buy a bunch of other garden supplies when there.

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Quote from jeecay :
Heirloom basically means that the plant you grow can produce seeds that can grow more of the same kind of plant.
Thank you, that's a better definition than google's: "seeds passed down from previous generations". But with your definition, where else would seeds come from? Artificial?
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You can't say it's good without showing us pics of your harvests!
​LOL well let's see . . . I currently have their beefsteek tomato, Detroit dark red beet (almost ready to harvest) keystone resistant giant bell pepper, cubanelle pepper, mammoth dill (not included in the 30 packet offer) and a 2nd round of purple top turnips growing, but it will be a month or so before I can share harvest pictures of most of those. I'm attaching photos of the black seeded simpson lettuce, parris island cos Lettuce, buttercrunch lettuce, 1st round of purple top turnips, and bloomsdale longstanding spinach I harvested last month.
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Quote from bmv_a2 :


​LOL well let's see . . . I currently have their beefsteek tomato, Detroit dark red beet (almost ready to harvest) keystone resistant giant bell pepper, cubanelle pepper, mammoth dill (not included in the 30 packet offer) and a 2nd round of purple top turnips growing, but it will be a month or so before I can share harvest pictures of most of those. I'm attaching photos of the black seeded simpson lettuce, parris island cos Lettuce, buttercrunch lettuce, 1st round of purple top turnips, and bloomsdale longstanding spinach I harvested last month.
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Dang bet you're an awesome neighbor haha, they look so green and fresh! I envy all the delicious salads and your healthy lifestyle!
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bigetanJun 24, 2024 01:30 AM
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Do these expire? If I save for next year?
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anatiobJun 24, 2024 05:24 AM
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Quote from bigetan :
Do these expire? If I save for next year?
You will be fine for a few years before use. I used some 2022 seeds this year. No probs.
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anatiobJun 24, 2024 05:29 AM
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They are really proud of their corn and lettuce. Did not know there are two types of turnips or why you would want that many.
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Quote from adam empire :
Menards practically gives these away. Is this just some reseller putting a rubber band around those? I can't imagine this seller is getting these from the seed company.
Seems likely, as this same seller's main product page is mostly hats, socks, shoelaces, etc.

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adam empireJun 24, 2024 12:21 PM
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Do these expire? If I save for next year?
They will be good for many years if you keep them in a cool, dry, dark place year round.

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