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expiredkakektypo posted Jul 01, 2024 06:16 AM

12TB HGST Ultrastar DC HC520 SATA 6GB 3.5" 7200RPM Enterprise HDD (Refurbished)

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goHardDrive Wholesale and Retail via eBay has 12TB HGST Ultrastar DC HC520 SATA 6GB 3.5" 7200RPM Enterprise HDD (Refurbished: Excellent) on sale for $74.99. Shipping is free.

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About Refurbished Condition:
  • These HDD is used by Datacenter Servers for about 5 years period.HDD was refurbished and data wiped with DoD Standard.
  • It's fully tested & passed HGST factory diagnose software test with ZERO Bad sectors!
  • Since this is a heavy duty enterprise HDD with 2.5M-hour MTBF rating.
Notable Specs:
  • Ultrastar He12 Series
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • SATA 6Gb/s Interface
  • 256MB Cache
  • 7.2K RPM Spindle Speed

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
  • About this deal:
  • Warranty:
    • Includes 5-Year Warranty from Seller + 1-Year Allstate Warranty
  • About this store:
    • 30 days returns. Seller pays for return shipping.
    • Seller goHardDrive Wholesale and Retail has a 99.8 Positive feedback rating w/ over 499,000 items sold

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Update: This popular deal is still available.

goHardDrive Wholesale and Retail via eBay has 12TB HGST Ultrastar DC HC520 SATA 6GB 3.5" 7200RPM Enterprise HDD (Refurbished: Excellent) on sale for $74.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member kakektypo for sharing this deal.

About Refurbished Condition:
  • These HDD is used by Datacenter Servers for about 5 years period.HDD was refurbished and data wiped with DoD Standard.
  • It's fully tested & passed HGST factory diagnose software test with ZERO Bad sectors!
  • Since this is a heavy duty enterprise HDD with 2.5M-hour MTBF rating.
Notable Specs:
  • Ultrastar He12 Series
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • SATA 6Gb/s Interface
  • 256MB Cache
  • 7.2K RPM Spindle Speed

Editor's Notes

Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
  • About this deal:
  • Warranty:
    • Includes 5-Year Warranty from Seller + 1-Year Allstate Warranty
  • About this store:
    • 30 days returns. Seller pays for return shipping.
    • Seller goHardDrive Wholesale and Retail has a 99.8 Positive feedback rating w/ over 499,000 items sold

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CoolMoney1870
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Good deal - Just keep in mind folks whether you buy new or used HDD it is always a good idea to protect your data by having multiple copies. Me being a computer nerd do all 3 of these below, but you should do at least one (preferably 1 local and 1 remote).

Locally you can do disk to disk backup
Locally you can use RAID and multiple drives
Remotely you can sync your data to a cloud provider like MS OneDrive, Amazon AWS, Google Drive, DropBOx, ect....
RonSwansun
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I am sure they would accept another $5 bucks from you if you got it 5 bucks cheaper
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🎶 How low can you go, twelve terabyte limbo 🎶

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Jul 10, 2024 11:42 AM
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boobolooJul 10, 2024 11:42 AM
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Quote from MWink :


I'm skeptical of the DoD wipe claim as well. It would probably be overkill anyway. A Secure Erase (which is only one pass) should be enough. Either way, actions that solely involve writes aren't necessarily going to pick up all issues. You need a full read scan somewhere in the mix.
Some drives have an instant secure erase as the data is encrypted by default and they just erase the keys.

ok checked, it does have instant secure erase.
https://documents.westerndigital....erview.pdf
Last edited by booboloo July 10, 2024 at 04:49 AM.
Jul 10, 2024 05:40 PM
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kaabobJul 10, 2024 05:40 PM
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Did an extended self test using Western Digital Dashboard on external USB enclosure and passed. Tried to turn off all USB power saving features in Windows11 but the drive still sleeps after test was done and was unresponsive. Have to replug the drive to see SMART results
Jul 10, 2024 06:26 PM
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lastwraithJul 10, 2024 06:26 PM
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Quote from MWink :
I am well aware that we're more likely to hear about bad experiences than good ones. It's just that I've been paying attention to a lot of these threads and there seem to be a lot more complaints in the goHardDrive used threads vs the SPD manufacturer recertified deals. It seems like there's a higher proportion of issues with GHD, of course we can't know for sure. I'm just sharing my observations, based on the data available to me.



Probably closer to 25 years. It's been a little over a decade since Seagate's really bad run.



I'm skeptical of the DoD wipe claim as well. It would probably be overkill anyway. A Secure Erase (which is only one pass) should be enough. Either way, actions that solely involve writes aren't necessarily going to pick up all issues. You need a full read scan somewhere in the mix.

I do agree that most refurbished equipment isn't tested well. I've seen such machines arrive with glaring issues, like bad touchpads or USB ports.



Actually, you are right. A drive with 4K logical sectors could support up to 16TiB with a MBR partition table. The thing is, almost nobody runs drives that way. Most modern drives run 512e Advanced Format, which uses 4K physical sectors and 512 byte logical sectors. Drives like the one in this deal can be converted to 4Kn mode but it tends to have some undesirable side-effects. Trust me, I actually toyed with it.
IBM sold to Hitachi in 2002/2003 and Deathstars were still very much a thing. Whether you want to say 20 or 25 yrs ago.... Doesn't really matter.
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Jul 10, 2024 06:28 PM
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lastwraithJul 10, 2024 06:28 PM
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Quote from booboloo :
Some drives have an instant secure erase as the data is encrypted by default and they just erase the keys.

ok checked, it does have instant secure erase.
https://documents.westerndigital....erview.pdf
I thought only some variants were SED? Pretty sure that's part of the model number deciphering you have to do if it's a feature you want.
It's not impossible they are wiping some drives the long way, but who knows.
Jul 10, 2024 06:45 PM
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megablankJul 10, 2024 06:45 PM
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Quote from kaabob :
Did an extended self test using Western Digital Dashboard on external USB enclosure and passed. Tried to turn off all USB power saving features in Windows11 but the drive still sleeps after test was done and was unresponsive. Have to replug the drive to see SMART results
Sometimes that is an enclosure thing, I remember some would have a no sleep optional firmware.

Alternatively there are keepalive HD utilities out there, write to txt file every x seconds etc
Jul 10, 2024 07:17 PM
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kaabobJul 10, 2024 07:17 PM
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Quote from megablank :
Sometimes that is an enclosure thing, I remember some would have a no sleep optional firmware.

Alternatively there are keepalive HD utilities out there, write to txt file every x seconds etc
Thanks for tip… I was thinking maybe the enclosure too
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PurpleHealth9935Jul 10, 2024 08:35 PM
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Anyone know if these are SMR or CMR?

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Jul 11, 2024 12:32 AM
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lastwraithJul 11, 2024 12:32 AM
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Quote from PurpleHealth9935 :
Anyone know if these are SMR or CMR?
Nothing this large (unless you go 20+TB WD) is SMR if memory serves. But regardless, THESE are definitely not SMR, they are PMR.
Last edited by lastwraith July 10, 2024 at 05:36 PM.
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MWinkJul 11, 2024 02:24 AM
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Quote from lastwraith :
IBM sold to Hitachi in 2002/2003 and Deathstars were still very much a thing. Whether you want to say 20 or 25 yrs ago.... Doesn't really matter.
The "Dethstar" was only the IBM 75GXP, which was released in early 2000. No other models had the issue.

Quote from PurpleHealth9935 :
Anyone know if these are SMR or CMR?
CMR.

Quote from booboloo :
Some drives have an instant secure erase as the data is encrypted by default and they just erase the keys.

ok checked, it does have instant secure erase.
https://documents.westerndigital....erview.pdf
Yes, some drives support ISE but I'm not sure about this particular model. The documentation is confusing. According to the specs, the DC HC520 models ending in "1" are listed as "Self-encrypting Drive (SAS)." It doesn't say if it also applies to the SATA version. Also, I'm not sure if ISE would qualify as a DoD wipe.
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ajdetcJul 11, 2024 04:06 AM
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Quote from lastwraith :
IBM sold to Hitachi in 2002/2003 and Deathstars were still very much a thing. Whether you want to say 20 or 25 yrs ago.... Doesn't really matter.
Quote from MWink :
The "Dethstar" was only the IBM 75GXP, which was released in early 2000. No other models had the issue.
Why does someone always bring up Deathstar when we are talking about hard drives... they are different technologies, different drives... do you have PTSD from Deathstar lol...
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lastwraithJul 11, 2024 04:24 PM
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Quote from ajdetc :
Why does someone always bring up Deathstar when we are talking about hard drives... they are different technologies, different drives... do you have PTSD from Deathstar lol...
We don't, but some people apparently still do even though IBM has been long gone in the HDD game.
Jul 11, 2024 04:35 PM
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lastwraithJul 11, 2024 04:35 PM
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Quote from MWink :
The "Dethstar" was only the IBM 75GXP, which was released in early 2000. No other models had the issue.



CMR.



Yes, some drives support ISE but I'm not sure about this particular model. The documentation is confusing. According to the specs, the DC HC520 models ending in "1" are listed as "Self-encrypting Drive (SAS)." It doesn't say if it also applies to the SATA version. Also, I'm not sure if ISE would qualify as a DoD wipe.
Yes, it was technically only the 75GXP and they did release in 2000, but the issues were ongoing and the drives sold for quite a while (not just that year).
Also, because of the absolutely terrible response from IBM at the time to concerns about the 75GXP, consumers and technology writers started to wonder about the 60GXP and 120GXP models, especially after IBM released the relatively low duty ratings for the 120gxp and other drives on the heels of the class-action lawsuit.
It's pretty much a textbook example of how NOT to respond to criticism/concern about a product.

There were a lot of other things going on at IBM at the time, but the drama around their DeskStars certainly didn't help the brand and they sold out in 2003.
Extremetech had a writeup a few years ago because of some recent drama in the HDD space which reminded them of IBM.
Last edited by lastwraith July 11, 2024 at 09:40 AM.
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1956BelAirJul 11, 2024 05:07 PM
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Quote from BeigeCemetery6723 :
That was my original plan, but the noise was too much for me.
I need some consumer grade quiet drives
Mine have not been overly noisy. I have them in an external dock.
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ocbruinJul 11, 2024 11:45 PM
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Considering that HGST came out with it's 12tb drive in 2016 and Western digital came out with it's 14tb drive in 2018 are there any indicators that the WD drive would have slight edge in durability as it may have less hours used and be an iterative improvement over the 2016 release? Although price per TB is more, would the WD 14tb refurbished be worth the premium for anecdotal better reliability?

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MWinkJul 12, 2024 03:29 AM
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Quote from ocbruin :
Considering that HGST came out with it's 12tb drive in 2016 and Western digital came out with it's 14tb drive in 2018 are there any indicators that the WD drive would have slight edge in durability as it may have less hours used and be an iterative improvement over the 2016 release? Although price per TB is more, would the WD 14tb refurbished be worth the premium for anecdotal better reliability?
I agree with your line of thinking but those drives are so close together that I'm not sure it would be worth much of a premium. If it was a substantially newer model (like the HC550), I'd be more inclined to spend the extra.

Quote from 1956BelAir :
Mine have not been overly noisy. I have them in an external dock.
The dock is why. I think the reason many people find these drives loud is because of how they shake and resonate in many cases. They sound much quieter in a small plastic dock. I speak from experience.

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