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CPU upgrades don't really add much for games. People say 8 cores and above make games feel smoother and I think thats true. But the stats like fps barely change. I have a 5900x for 3 years and its still a boss.
I decided to skip the 7000 series because with a new socket and DDR 5 I didn't want the headaches. In past months I've seen newer Asus boards catching fire and sketchy bios flaws. The AM4 socket was really smoothed out whern the 5000 series came around. This processor and a $150 x570/550 mobo are still a nice problem free spot in the market.
Recently upgraded to a 5700X3D from a 5600X. I am definitely seeing some performance uplift in select games. I don't plan to upgrade my Mobo/CPU again likely until AM6 drops so this was an inexpensive half step upgrade to get me through the next few years. Got it from AliExpress for $160 for anyone that wants to save a few bucks or doesn't have Prime. Recommend getting a decent cooler for this if you're coming from a 5600x as the TDP is increased.
Is the difference between this and a 5600x noticable? I don't feel like replacing a whole MOBO.
Gaming? Not one bit. Could even be a super slight dip depending on game. You get MORE cores though so if youre doing other productivity related things such as video editing or streaming, you'll definitely notice.
I just got the 7900x3d for $278 on ebay. Should I return it and get the 7950x3d?? The only thing I do is game (not esports).
CPU upgrades don't really add much for games. People say 8 cores and above make games feel smoother and I think thats true. But the stats like fps barely change. I have a 5900x for 3 years and its still a boss.
I decided to skip the 7000 series because with a new socket and DDR 5 I didn't want the headaches. In past months I've seen newer Asus boards catching fire and sketchy bios flaws. The AM4 socket was really smoothed out whern the 5000 series came around. This processor and a $150 x570/550 mobo are still a nice problem free spot in the market.
Be interesting to see all these chips sell dirt cheap when the new AI chips are in fashion
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Penn Engineers have developed a new chip that uses light waves, rather than electricity, to perform the complex math essential to training AI. The chip has the potential to radically accelerate the processing speed of computers while also reducing their energy consumption.
Is the difference between this and a 5600x noticable? I don't feel like replacing a whole MOBO.
You're getting quite a bit of misinformation from some people in this thread. The 3D cache improves gaming performance in a lot of games, though not all of them. The difference will likely be noticeable depending on the game and resolution you're playing. I'd check the reviews for the specific game you're playing since the difference can be massive or no benefit at all.
Overall it's more like a 1/2 generational step up. Since you're upgrading from 5600X to 5700X3D it's probably worth it for the increase in core count as well. If you're not planning on building a completely PC soon, it'll probably buy you a few more years comfortably.
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In the market for a pc for my wife. I currently have a ryzen 5 3600 based PC with a 2070 gpu. Would it be worth it to just buy a prebuilt system with a 4060 for around 800-1000. Or just get a 5900X or 7700x with appropriate mobo/ram and swap the gpu out? Light gaming with mostly esports.
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You're getting quite a bit of misinformation from some people in this thread. The 3D cache improves gaming performance in a lot of games, though not all of them. The difference will likely be noticeable depending on the game and resolution you're playing. I'd check the reviews for the specific game you're playing since the difference can be massive or no benefit at all.
Overall it's more like a 1/2 generational step up. Since you're upgrading from 5600X to 5700X3D it's probably worth it for the increase in core count as well. If you're not planning on building a completely PC soon, it'll probably buy you a few more years comfortably.
You're right, it really does depend on the game. CPU dependent games tend to see a good uplift going with an x3D chip. As an example, I saw a ~30 frame increase in Escape from Tarkov just from going from a 5800 to a 5800x3D.
Recently upgraded to a 5700X3D from a 5600X. I am definitely seeing some performance uplift in select games. I don't plan to upgrade my Mobo/CPU again likely until AM6 drops so this was an inexpensive half step upgrade to get me through the next few years. Got it from AliExpress for $160 for anyone that wants to save a few bucks or doesn't have Prime. Recommend getting a decent cooler for this if you're coming from a 5600x as the TDP is increased.
FYI, the 5700X3D can be found on Aliexpress for around $140 before various coupon codes & discounts. Picked one up yesterday for $138 total w. tax. Note that these will be tray CPUs (in a clamshell and not in retail packaging) and will have no warranty outside of DOA protection. I realize there's likely an element of risk going this route, but for around 30% off this Prime Day price, I rolled the dice.
I'm finally coming off my Ryzen 5 1600 from 2018 so this should be a pretty substantial upgrade for me. I was in the process of putting an AM5 parts list together before finding out that the AM4 was still supported after all this time. Combine this with 16GB additional DDR4 I grabbed off eBay for $22 and for around $160 I'll hopefully ride this setup out another 3-4 years.
FYI, the 5700X3D can be found on Aliexpress for around $140 before various coupon codes & discounts. Picked one up yesterday for $138 total w. tax. Note that these will be tray CPUs (in a clamshell and not in retail packaging) and will have no warranty outside of DOA protection. I realize there's likely an element of risk going this route, but for around 30% off this Prime Day price, I rolled the dice.
I'm finally coming off my Ryzen 5 1600 from 2018 so this should be a pretty substantial upgrade for me. I was in the process of putting an AM5 parts list together before finding out that the AM4 was still supported after all this time. Combine this with 16GB additional DDR4 I grabbed off eBay for $22 and for around $160 I'll hopefully ride this setup out another 3-4 years.
I just made the same purchase off of AliExpress. I'm coming off a 1700x so this makes sense.
CPU's have an onboard processor and eeprom. Intel calls it the Intel Management Engine and AMD calls it somethings else. I can't remember. Potentially these can be hacked by anyone with hands on availability, such as tray CPU's from China, and a desire to commit financial fraud or other nefarious activities. I'm sure I'll catch some flack for saying that but something to consider for anyone that wants to limit their security exposure as much as reasonably possible.
Zen 5 will have great power efficiency, and a claimed +16% IPC increase. It has no value for gaming over 7000X3D until 9000X3D comes out a bit later.
Yes, but it's sounding like the 9700x will be *close* to the 7800x3d in games, even though it won't win, and it'll be faster in MT by a decent chunk. It'll almost certainly result in prices continuing to trend downward for existing products, and nobody will buy the 9700x if they price it too high.
Gaming? Not one bit. Could even be a super slight dip depending on game. You get MORE cores though so if youre doing other productivity related things such as video editing or streaming, you'll definitely notice.
Uh I went from a 5600x to a 5800x3d and I swear to you it added 40-50fps in games like assetto corsa competizione. I'm using a 6800xt so maybe I was bottleneck it n a bit, but either way massive upgrade
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I decided to skip the 7000 series because with a new socket and DDR 5 I didn't want the headaches. In past months I've seen newer Asus boards catching fire and sketchy bios flaws. The AM4 socket was really smoothed out whern the 5000 series came around. This processor and a $150 x570/550 mobo are still a nice problem free spot in the market.
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I decided to skip the 7000 series because with a new socket and DDR 5 I didn't want the headaches. In past months I've seen newer Asus boards catching fire and sketchy bios flaws. The AM4 socket was really smoothed out whern the 5000 series came around. This processor and a $150 x570/550 mobo are still a nice problem free spot in the market.
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Penn Engineers have developed a new chip that uses light waves, rather than electricity, to perform the complex math essential to training AI. The chip has the potential to radically accelerate the processing speed of computers while also reducing their energy consumption.
Overall it's more like a 1/2 generational step up. Since you're upgrading from 5600X to 5700X3D it's probably worth it for the increase in core count as well. If you're not planning on building a completely PC soon, it'll probably buy you a few more years comfortably.
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Overall it's more like a 1/2 generational step up. Since you're upgrading from 5600X to 5700X3D it's probably worth it for the increase in core count as well. If you're not planning on building a completely PC soon, it'll probably buy you a few more years comfortably.
I'm finally coming off my Ryzen 5 1600 from 2018 so this should be a pretty substantial upgrade for me. I was in the process of putting an AM5 parts list together before finding out that the AM4 was still supported after all this time. Combine this with 16GB additional DDR4 I grabbed off eBay for $22 and for around $160 I'll hopefully ride this setup out another 3-4 years.
I'm finally coming off my Ryzen 5 1600 from 2018 so this should be a pretty substantial upgrade for me. I was in the process of putting an AM5 parts list together before finding out that the AM4 was still supported after all this time. Combine this with 16GB additional DDR4 I grabbed off eBay for $22 and for around $160 I'll hopefully ride this setup out another 3-4 years.
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