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PNY VCG4070S12DFXPB1-O RTX 4070 Super 12GB GDDR6X Graphics Card $528.41 @ Amazon

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Sep 25, 2024 03:12 AM
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mr_no_businessSep 25, 2024 03:12 AM
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Just noticed this today too. Seems like a good price when these 4070 Super seem to go for around $590-600
Sep 25, 2024 03:13 AM
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mr_no_businessSep 25, 2024 03:13 AM
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I need a two slot card that's not too wide so I think this would work. Don't know why there are no reviews on Amazon?
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Sep 25, 2024 04:26 AM
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BeigeRoad455
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Sep 25, 2024 04:26 AM
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This is the cheapest a 4070 super has ever been to my knowledge (disregarding the ymmv dell deals that require jumping through hoops with cb, credit card offers, alienware signup, etc.). I'm pretty sure this is a price mistake, since amazon is selling the non-super version of this exact model for $11 more, and 4070 supers in general are at minimum $570 on sale.

An in depth review of this exact model can be found here: https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...per-verto/

The primary competition to the 4070 super is the amd 7900gre, which extremely rarely goes on sale for as low as $500 on an excellent sale. A good review comparing the two cards can be found here: https://www.techspot.com/review/2...-7900-gre/

I happen to have this exact model (I got it for $480 through a bunch of stacking dell offers), and while temps and noise aren't stellar I'm definitely happy with it for the price. This card is very small, being only two slots wide and slightly shorter than the founders edition. It is a "SFF-Ready Enthusiast GeForce Card" according to nvidia. As such, the cooler is much weaker than you'll find in the triple fan 3-slot monstrosities, and under full load might struggle in cases with poor airflow. In my system (which has excellent airflow), under a 10 minute 4k furmark 2.3.0.0 load that kept the gpu pegged to 220w the whole time and fans at 100% (based off the fan curve I set) the whole time, the gpu temp maxed out at ~81C, the gpu memory junction temp maxed out at ~68C, and the gpu hot spot temp maxed out at ~104C. It's worth noting that the hotspot temps have increased by ~2C since I initially got the card, which may indicate some degree of thermal paste pump out, though this really only affects torture tests. Thermals never reach dangerous levels in gaming, especially with an undervolt, which I highly recommend. Acoustic performance is somewhat mediocre but overall acceptable to my ears. The fans get pretty loud at high rpm, but at least there's no coil whine after almost a year of regular use. Performance is just about in line with a founders edition 4070 super before tuning. The power limit is not unlocked with the pny vbios, though realistically the performance benefit to increasing the power limit is minimal and the cooler won't handle it well. You can flash a different vbios if you want to unlock power limits and/or have an overclock out of the box, though you should obviously avoid this if you don't know what you're doing. Pny offers a 3 year warranty with this card.

I found that my 4070 super took quite well to a pretty heavy undervolt/overclock (raising the curve and then flattening beyond the desired voltage, which takes more time to dial in and reduces max clocks, but yields the best effective clocks) and a heavy memory overclock. With my current absolutely stable uc/oc with some buffer built in, in the superposition 8k optimized preset benchmark it scores around 6160 while averaging below 175w of power usage. I can get a significantly higher score if I allow some instability, but I personally like to leave a large amount of buffer. The memory overclock is a decent jump in performance for basically free, pretty much all 4070 supers should be able to do at least +1000 unless you get really unlucky. In case anyone's curious to use my settings as a reference point, my 4070 super is absolutely stable and gains performance with a +1550mhz memory clock oc and a +175mhz core clock oc with the curve flattened beyond 925mv (the 4070 super won't let you set an undervolt below 925mv). This yields a meaningful performance improvement above stock while simultaneously cutting power usage by 40w+ in many games. You'll have to use the beta version of msi afterburner, the officially released stable version doesn't have support for the 4070 super yet. To be clear, you shouldn't just copy those settings and expect them to work since it all depends on the silicon lottery, but it can hopefully at least act as a helpful starting point. I highly recommend occt's 3d adaptive stability tests to test stability if you overclock/undervolt your gpu.
Last edited by BeigeRoad455 September 24, 2024 at 09:46 PM.
Sep 25, 2024 04:31 AM
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tpk2263Sep 25, 2024 04:31 AM
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Quote from mr_no_business :
I need a two slot card that's not too wide so I think this would work. Don't know why there are no reviews on Amazon?
If you search for the part number on Amazon you will see that they have it listed a second time for about $60 more available in black or white with 149 reviews. Also sold by and shipped by Amazon same as this listing. I'm wondering if this is some type of price error, because this one is priced like a regular 4070, not a Super. The Super is a definite uptick in performance over a regular 4070 and has been my go-to card on few builds I've done over the past few months. I even used this particular PNY dual fan card on an upgrade on a smaller form factor Tower where a triple fan card wouldn't fit and it worked out well, especially since space was a constraint. The ambient temps aren't the best as someone else here already pointed out but they weren't terrible, if you're not going to try to push it harder than stock you would be fine.
Last edited by tpk2263 September 24, 2024 at 09:35 PM.
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Sep 25, 2024 04:43 AM
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Sep 25, 2024 04:43 AM
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Quote from BeigeRoad455 :
This is the cheapest a 4070 super has ever been to my knowledge (disregarding the ymmv dell deals that require jumping through hoops with cb, credit card offers, alienware signup, etc.). I'm pretty sure this is a price mistake, since amazon is selling the non-super version of this exact model for $11 more, and 4070 supers in general are at minimum $570 on sale.

An in depth review of this exact model can be found here: https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...per-verto/

The primary competition to the 4070 super is the amd 7900gre, which extremely rarely goes on sale for as low as $500 on an excellent sale. A good review comparing the two cards can be found here: https://www.techspot.com/review/2...-7900-gre/

I happen to have this exact model (I got it for $480 through a bunch of stacking dell offers), and while temps and noise aren't stellar I'm definitely happy with it for the price. This card is very small, being only two slots wide and slightly shorter than the founders edition. It is a "SFF-Ready Enthusiast GeForce Card" according to nvidia. As such, the cooler is much weaker than you'll find in the triple fan 3-slot monstrosities, and under full load might struggle in cases with poor airflow. In my system (which has excellent airflow), under a 10 minute 4k furmark load that kept the gpu pegged to 220w the whole time and fans at 100% (based off the fan curve I set) the whole time, the gpu temp maxed out at ~81C, the gpu memory junction temp maxed out at ~68C, and the gpu hot spot temp maxed out at ~104C. It's worth noting that the hotspot temps have increase by ~2C since I initially got the card, which may indicate some degree of thermal paste pump out, though this really only affects torture tests. Thermals never reach dangerous levels in gaming, especially with an undervolt which is heavily recommended. Acoustic performance is somewhat mediocre but overall acceptable to my ears. The fans get pretty loud at high rpm, but at least there's no coil whine after almost a year of regular use. Performance is just about in line with a founders edition 4070 super before tuning. The power limit is not unlocked with the pny vbios, though realistically the performance benefit to increasing the power limit is minimal and the cooler won't handle it well. You can flash a different vbios if you want to unlock power limits and/or have an overclock out of the box, though you should obviously avoid this if you don't know what you're doing. Pny offers a 3 year warranty with this card.

I found that my 4070 super took quite well to a pretty heavy undervolt/overclock (raising the curve and then flattening beyond the desired voltage, which takes more time to dial in and reduces max clocks, but yields the best effective clocks) and a heavy memory overclock. With my current absolutely stable uc/oc with some buffer built in, in the superposition 8k optimized preset benchmark it scores around 6160 while averaging below 175w of power usage. I can get a significantly higher score if I allow some instability, but I personally like to leave a large amount of buffer. The memory overclock is a decent jump in performance for basically free, pretty much all 4070 supers should be able to do at least +1000 unless you get really unlucky. In case anyone's curious to use my settings as a reference point, my 4070 super is absolutely stable and gains performance with a +1550mhz memory clock oc and a +175mhz core clock oc with the curve flattened beyond 925mv (the 4070 super won't let you set an undervolt below 925mv). This yields a meaningful performance improvement above stock while simultaneously cutting power usage by 40w+ in many games. You'll have to use the beta version of msi afterburner, the officially released stable version doesn't have support for the 4070 super yet. To be clear, you shouldn't just copy those settings and expect them to work since it all depends on the silicon lottery, but it can hopefully at least act as a helpful starting point. I highly recommend occt's 3d adaptive stability tests to test stability if you overclock/undervolt your gpu.
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^What he said. 👍
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Sep 25, 2024 04:52 AM
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rspiritSep 25, 2024 04:52 AM
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Dead deal. I should have bought and thought later.
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Sep 25, 2024 05:06 AM
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Great deal $528! Thanks.

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Sep 25, 2024 11:09 AM
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RotoJediSep 25, 2024 11:09 AM
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Quote from scdiamond :
Great deal $528! Thanks.
Deal like this worth it with 5070's coming soon?
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Sep 25, 2024 02:22 PM
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scdiamond
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Sep 25, 2024 02:22 PM
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Quote from RotoJedi :
Deal like this worth it with 5070's coming soon?
Yeah absolutely, since I can't afford the 5070.
Sep 25, 2024 02:58 PM
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RotoJediSep 25, 2024 02:58 PM
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Quote from scdiamond :
Yeah absolutely, since I can't afford the 5070.
You do not think the 5070 will be around $500?
Sep 25, 2024 06:46 PM
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mr_no_businessSep 25, 2024 06:46 PM
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Quote from RotoJedi :
You do not think the 5070 will be around $500?
Should be around $600-700, hopefully only $600. Disappointed I missed this deal but may wait for the 5070 at this rate. Probably not until end of year (?) or early next year
Sep 25, 2024 07:56 PM
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RotoJediSep 25, 2024 07:56 PM
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Quote from mr_no_business :
Should be around $600-700, hopefully only $600. Disappointed I missed this deal but may wait for the 5070 at this rate. Probably not until end of year (?) or early next year
Damn that is a rip off! I am still on a 2070 Super and tbh, gives me what I need for all the games I play! I am not sure what to do. Might just get a 4070 vanilla when I see one for $350

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