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expirediconian | Staff posted Oct 7, 2024 4:01 PM
Synology NAS Enclosures: DS224+ 2-Bay $240, DS923+ 4-Bay
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Check out SpaceRex on YouTube. He has a few beginner-focused videos and regularly mentions that filling up all the bays is a common mistake.
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Working with videos you want a unit that has at least 4 bays , using raid 5 with 10GB/s network. If you want to upload files to the unit faster install a NVME as a cache drive to move onto the array later which would give you around 350-550MB/s with enterprise drives
to solve all this i would look into a synology that just uses SSDs with a 10GB network card
but then again you have to have the upload speed to work remotely and your network needs to be 10GB/s and i recommend cat6a
I'll look into 10 GB/s devices.
I have an desktop PC with several sata 3 big drives. I dont use it much, but when I do its very fast. Problem is they're jbod with varying sizes which is a pain. The two USB drives that I have is a temporary compromise.
1GB/s technology is about 24 years old now using CAT5e. Even then if this is all you have most routers now have 2.5GB/s ports and so do motherboards so why stick to 1GB/s? unless you are just managing photos and syncing. These type of units with 1GB/s are ripping off the consumer IMO. The only reason i would consider a synology is because of the Software DSM is very user friendly , especially when it comes to security and Synology updating the software to make it secure. I would say the software alone is worth 250 bucks.,
They just raised unraid software to 249.00 to attach unlimited storage devices and free os updates for life.
so basically you are getting the 2 bay hardware for free. I would not trust qnap, or terramaster which is a chinese company
One is gigabyte and one is gigabit. Generally 1Gb/s is 100MB/s (using base 10). 1GB/s is 1000MB/s. So that would actually be 10Gb.
Also are they loud? I assume the 4 bays one has 2 fans on the back will be louder.
I only need it to store movies and watch them with Infuse, but mainly photo back up for the family.
Thank you for your advice.
If you pick SHR as your raid then you can grow your raid later by adding more of the same size or bigger drives. You could also add new drives and just set them up as their own volume.
That guy "spacerex" is an idiot. First one he is talking about westerdigital software on a synology nas showing warnings on drives if they are online for more than 3 years and if there is an issue you wouldnt know. You can set up different kinds of alerts. You dont have to use the WD software in the synology nas. Here is an even better one…. Synology wont actually let you use any drive without getting an its "an supported drive". Unless you buy the drives from synology. I have had 4 8 bay synology nas arrays. Currently running 1817 and 1821. Synology back when 4TB drives were around put 4TB seagate drives on the supported list. Mine kept dropping offline. Contacted them then they said it was only with a specific firmware that they didnt publish. Given that I was an enterprise storage engineer at the time for a large server manufacturer I got the firmware directly from seagate and force flashed it. (The real issue was too aggressive head parking timings.). Leave drives out? In a real enterprise environment they have drive blanks in to keep airflow correct. So keep the empty ones in. Or buy what you need. Leaving open slots…. Link me that video I would like to see his justifications. Maybe its because I come from an enterprise SAN design background but i dont agree … you should keep slots open. Waste of money. Buy what you need. Get wd or similar usb drives and take the drives out and put them in synology. They are usually enterprise drives. Currently running ~400TB using iscsi and NFS 4.1 on an Esx cluster. Mixing different drives sizes using shr isnt going to perform as well. And its a huge hassle to recover if it breaks. Ext4 i can rebuild a failed raidset at the command line. When you see the your volume has crashed for the first time… but the data is still there…. Most people have to blow it away and restore. Synology also takes functionality away with dsm upgrades. Nfs 4.1 was on the boxes then they removed it at a later release. (I use 4.1 with multipathing for my esx cluster.). The few times I have had issues I was able to fix it before their support could. Drives falling out of the raid set, scsi luns getting locked etc etc.
Check out SpaceRex on YouTube. He has a few beginner-focused videos and regularly mentions that filling up all the bays is a common mistake.
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One is gigabyte and one is gigabit. Generally 1Gb/s is 100MB/s (using base 10). 1GB/s is 1000MB/s. So that would actually be 10Gb.
I'll look into 10 GB/s devices.
I have an desktop PC with several sata 3 big drives. I dont use it much, but when I do its very fast. Problem is they're jbod with varying sizes which is a pain. The two USB drives that I have is a temporary compromise.
My photos top out at 47.3 megapixels or 70MB. I want to browse them remotely and only load on my laptop the ones I plan to edit.
Is that doable or the network will be too slow?
Currently I am uskng two 16tb USB3.0 drives. One is writen on import for backup. I'm not happy with the speed.
If you truely want to build a NAS to do VMs/ iscsi/smb and all sorts of backup/sync things look into True nas scale it is free. Build a 24 bay
keep synology just for cloud base stuff for set that up to host sync/backups/cloud data sharing outside you LAN since DSM is the most user friendly and will ensure your security is fool proof when setting up.
If you are still interested /stuck on synology get the 4 bay , spend the extra 100 bucks and get a 10GB lan card by synology.
it is completely stupid to throw in a bunch of enterprise drives to do raid 5 and then only get 150MB/s over your network.
Just does not make sense to spend this kind of money unless you find a better deal on synology 5 bay or 8 bay units that have 10GB lan already installed or you can buy a SFP+ or 10GB lan card cheap that is compatible. There are many enterprise SFP+ cards on ebay for 20-30 bucks that do 10GB/s
- Basic to RAID 5
- RAID 1 to RAID 5
- RAID 5 to RAID6 (with 2 or more drives)
- SHR-1 to SHR-2 (with 2 or more drives)
I'd recommend going from R1 —> R5. While I wouldn't recommend doing R5 in an enterprise world, it should be perfectly fine for home use/your use case.
Interesting to know is return period for DS923+ seems to be until JAn31st.
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can I replace the synology photos in place of photos app on iphone? meaning, when I take a photo, can I configure to save it directly to Synology cloud solution instead of icloud? thanks!!
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