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expiredEragorn | Staff posted Nov 13, 2024 01:14 AM
2TB MSI SPATIUM M482 M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive
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The msi 482 is a dram-less drive using the PHISON E27T controller and Kioxia BiCS6 162-layer tlc nand. While there aren't any professional reviews for this exact model, it has the exact same hardware configuration (assuming no unreported silent revisions have occurred) as the Corsair MP600 Elite.
Reviews for the mp600 elite (sharing the same hardware, so performance should be relatively comparable):
https://www.techpowerup
https://www.tomshardwar
While the lack of dram means this drive falls somewhat behind true top tier gen 4 drives in real world performance (the heavily marketed peak sequential speeds are essentially meaningless in the vast majority of actual use cases), host memory buffer (hmb) mitigates the majority of the issues from a lack of dram. Its performance is overall good for most common use cases, and should be sufficient for use as a boot drive if you're on a tighter budget. This drive should not be used in an external enclosure, as hmb only works when the drive is directly connected to the computer through the m.2 slot. Likewise, the ps5 doesn't support hmb, so I generally recommend drives with dram for use in a playstation. If msi chose a similar slc cache configuration as corsair, then this drive will likely be somewhat slower than expected for enormous (50gb+) write operations. This drive supports hardware encryption, and should work with hardware bitlocker (using software bitlocker can drastically reduce drive performance). The endurance rating of this ssd is 1200tbw, which is fairly standard for a modern 2tb tlc drive, and comes with a 5 year warranty which is also industry standard.
Overall, while this drive at $90 doesn't match the truly incredible deals (such as the $90 2tb sn850x) from back when the ssd market was much better a year ago, it's a pretty good value considering the current market. It is worth noting that Black Friday / Cyber Monday are coming up very soon, and it's entirely possible there'll be better deals then, so it might not be a bad idea to wait if you don't have an urgent need for a ssd.
This article [ign.com] claims that it's PS5 compatible, but it doesn't appear that they actually tested it.
Even though the hmb cache size is small, mapping tables for the vast majority of commonly accessed areas of the drive can be stored in system memory, therefore getting most of the primary benefits of dram without the increased costs. Performance will suffer in workloads involving many random access's for extremely large datasets, and overall performance will be lower due to additional overhead and reduced caching, but ultimately for most normal use cases hmb drives don't perform egregiously worse than drives with dram.
Also, regarding your statement about manufacturers "saving a few dimes", the cost reduction of foregoing dram is actually quite significant. Not only is dram (dynamic random access memory) many times more expensive per GB than nand flash, but it also generally requires a higher end and more expensive controller to go along with it, and adds additional complexity to the manufacturing process.
In conclusion, utilizing hmb with the drive in this deal will reduce available system ram by 64MB, not the 2GB you erroneously claimed. Please edit your original post to rectify your false claims and avoid spreading misinformation. In the future, please do some research before posting.
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This article [ign.com] claims that it's PS5 compatible, but it doesn't appear that they actually tested it.
This article [ign.com] claims that it's PS5 compatible, but it doesn't appear that they actually tested it.
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The msi 482 is a dram-less drive using the PHISON E27T controller and Kioxia BiCS6 162-layer tlc nand. While there aren't any professional reviews for this exact model, it has the exact same hardware configuration (assuming no unreported silent revisions have occurred) as the Corsair MP600 Elite.
Reviews for the mp600 elite (sharing the same hardware, so performance should be relatively comparable):
https://www.techpowerup
https://www.tomshardwar
While the lack of dram means this drive falls somewhat behind true top tier gen 4 drives in real world performance (the heavily marketed peak sequential speeds are essentially meaningless in the vast majority of actual use cases), host memory buffer (hmb) mitigates the majority of the issues from a lack of dram. Its performance is overall good for most common use cases, and should be sufficient for use as a boot drive if you're on a tighter budget. This drive should not be used in an external enclosure, as hmb only works when the drive is directly connected to the computer through the m.2 slot. Likewise, the ps5 doesn't support hmb, so I generally recommend drives with dram for use in a playstation. If msi chose a similar slc cache configuration as corsair, then this drive will likely be somewhat slower than expected for enormous (50gb+) write operations. This drive supports hardware encryption, and should work with hardware bitlocker (using software bitlocker can drastically reduce drive performance). The endurance rating of this ssd is 1200tbw, which is fairly standard for a modern 2tb tlc drive, and comes with a 5 year warranty which is also industry standard.
Overall, while this drive at $90 doesn't match the truly incredible deals (such as the $90 2tb sn850x) from back when the ssd market was much better a year ago, it's a pretty good value considering the current market. It is worth noting that Black Friday / Cyber Monday are coming up very soon, and it's entirely possible there'll be better deals then, so it might not be a bad idea to wait if you don't have an urgent need for a ssd.
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The msi 482 is a dram-less drive using the PHISON E27T controller and Kioxia BiCS6 162-layer tlc nand. While there aren't any professional reviews for this exact model, it has the exact same hardware configuration (assuming no unreported silent revisions have occurred) as the Corsair MP600 Elite.
Reviews for the mp600 elite (sharing the same hardware, so performance should be relatively comparable):
https://www.techpowerup
https://www.tomshardwar
While the lack of dram means this drive falls somewhat behind true top tier gen 4 drives in real world performance (the heavily marketed peak sequential speeds are essentially meaningless in the vast majority of actual use cases), host memory buffer (hmb) mitigates the majority of the issues from a lack of dram. Its performance is overall good for most common use cases, and should be sufficient for use as a boot drive if you're on a tighter budget. This drive should not be used in an external enclosure, as hmb only works when the drive is directly connected to the computer through the m.2 slot. Likewise, the ps5 doesn't support hmb, so I generally recommend drives with dram for use in a playstation. If msi chose a similar slc cache configuration as corsair, then this drive will likely be somewhat slower than expected for enormous (50gb+) write operations. This drive supports hardware encryption, and should work with hardware bitlocker (using software bitlocker can drastically reduce drive performance). The endurance rating of this ssd is 1200tbw, which is fairly standard for a modern 2tb tlc drive, and comes with a 5 year warranty which is also industry standard.
Overall, while this drive at $90 doesn't match the truly incredible deals (such as the $90 2tb sn850x) from back when the ssd market was much better a year ago, it's a pretty good value considering the current market. It is worth noting that Black Friday / Cyber Monday are coming up very soon, and it's entirely possible there'll be better deals then, so it might not be a bad idea to wait if you don't have an urgent need for a ssd.
I'm looking to buy an SSD for use as an external storage expansion for a Mac Mini M4. I was considering the current gen Satechi hub with support for M2 + NVMe SSD (don't mind the size mismatch, there aren't any docks in the market for M4 Mac Mini yet), but noticed it's USB-C (up to 10 Gbps) and doesn't support Thunderbolt 3 even (up to 40 Gbps).
Your comment that HMB won't work with enclosures (or hub in this case) seems to recommend against buying this SSD for my use-case. But, is the 10Gbps USB-C in this hub a more significant bottleneck that the lack of HMB support won't matter?
Or would you rather recommend not using this USB-C hub for storage expansion at all, and rather spend a bit more on an additional enclosure supporting TB3 and a better SSD with DRAM, since HMB won't help anyway?
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I'm looking to buy an SSD for use as an external storage expansion for a Mac Mini M4. I was considering the current gen Satechi hub with support for M2 + NVMe SSD (don't mind the size mismatch, there aren't any docks in the market for M4 Mac Mini yet), but noticed it's USB-C (up to 10 Gbps) and doesn't support Thunderbolt 3 even (up to 40 Gbps).
Your comment that HMB won't work with enclosures (or hub in this case) seems to recommend against buying this SSD for my use-case. But, is the 10Gbps USB-C in this hub a more significant bottleneck that the lack of HMB support won't matter?
Or would you rather recommend not using this USB-C hub for storage expansion at all, and rather spend a bit more on an additional enclosure supporting TB3 and a better SSD with DRAM, since HMB won't help anyway?
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I'm looking to buy an SSD for use as an external storage expansion for a Mac Mini M4. I was considering the current gen Satechi hub with support for M2 + NVMe SSD (don't mind the size mismatch, there aren't any docks in the market for M4 Mac Mini yet), but noticed it's USB-C (up to 10 Gbps) and doesn't support Thunderbolt 3 even (up to 40 Gbps).
Your comment that HMB won't work with enclosures (or hub in this case) seems to recommend against buying this SSD for my use-case. But, is the 10Gbps USB-C in this hub a more significant bottleneck that the lack of HMB support won't matter?
Or would you rather recommend not using this USB-C hub for storage expansion at all, and rather spend a bit more on an additional enclosure supporting TB3 and a better SSD with DRAM, since HMB won't help anyway?
Unfortunately reviews don't test these things with hmb disabled
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