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The msi 482 is a dram-less drive using the PHISON E27T controller and Kioxia BiCS6 162-layer tlc nand. While there aren't any professional reviews for this exact model, it has the exact same hardware configuration (assuming no unreported silent revisions have occurred) as the Corsair MP600 Elite.
Reviews for the mp600 elite (sharing the same hardware, so performance should be relatively comparable): https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...lite-2-tb/ https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-c...ssd-review
While the lack of dram means this drive falls somewhat behind true top tier gen 4 drives in real world performance (the heavily marketed peak sequential speeds are essentially meaningless in the vast majority of actual use cases), host memory buffer (hmb) mitigates the majority of the issues from a lack of dram. Its performance is overall good for most common use cases, and should be sufficient for use as a boot drive if you're on a tighter budget. This drive should not be used in an external enclosure, as hmb only works when the drive is directly connected to the computer through the m.2 slot. Likewise, the ps5 doesn't support hmb, so I generally recommend drives with dram for use in a playstation. If msi chose a similar slc cache configuration as corsair, then this drive will likely be somewhat slower than expected for enormous (50gb+) write operations. This drive supports hardware encryption, and should work with hardware bitlocker (using software bitlocker can drastically reduce drive performance). The endurance rating of this ssd is 1200tbw, which is fairly standard for a modern 2tb tlc drive, and comes with a 5 year warranty which is also industry standard.
Overall, while this drive at $90 doesn't match the truly incredible deals (such as the $90 2tb sn850x) from back when the ssd market was much better a year ago, it's a pretty good value considering the current market. It is worth noting that Black Friday / Cyber Monday are coming up very soon, and it's entirely possible there'll be better deals then, so it might not be a bad idea to wait if you don't have an urgent need for a ssd.
You appear to have a major misconception about the amount of system ram hmb utilizes. In most cases dram exists at a ratio of 1GB per 1TB capacity, which allows storage of mapping tables for the entire drive in addition to additional space for various caching functions. Hmb, on the other hand, typically utilizes less than 100MB of system memory as a substitute for dram. For example, the msi spatium m482 2tb (the drive in this deal) has a hmb cache size of 64MB, which is fairly negligible even on systems with only 8gb of ram: https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-s...2-tb.d2199
Even though the hmb cache size is small, mapping tables for the vast majority of commonly accessed areas of the drive can be stored in system memory, therefore getting most of the primary benefits of dram without the increased costs. Performance will suffer in workloads involving many random access's for extremely large datasets, and overall performance will be lower due to additional overhead and reduced caching, but ultimately for most normal use cases hmb drives don't perform egregiously worse than drives with dram.
Also, regarding your statement about manufacturers "saving a few dimes", the cost reduction of foregoing dram is actually quite significant. Not only is dram (dynamic random access memory) many times more expensive per GB than nand flash, but it also generally requires a higher end and more expensive controller to go along with it, and adds additional complexity to the manufacturing process.
In conclusion, utilizing hmb with the drive in this deal will reduce available system ram by 64MB, not the 2GB you erroneously claimed. Please edit your original post to rectify your false claims and avoid spreading misinformation. In the future, please do some research before posting.
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Before anyone asks, no, it doesn't have a DRAM cache. What do you expect for 90 bucks?
This article[ign.com] claims that it's PS5 compatible, but it doesn't appear that they actually tested it.
This drive works fine in the PS5. I have 1 in without a heatsink sitting in there for 3 years now.
I wouldn't suggest using it as a primary OS drive though. I bought one from Micro Center and they replaced it under warranty after 6 months then it died a week later and had to take it to MSI to warranty and it was hell waiting a month for them approve my warranty because they claimed I already had it replaced by Micro Center. Also when they did approve my warranty they sent me a DOA drive.
1. Lower Performance:
• Random read/write operations may be slower.
• Latency is typically higher compared to SSDs with DRAM.
2. Cost-Effective:
• Drives without DRAM are generally cheaper and suited for budget-oriented builds.
3. Durability:
• Without a dedicated cache, the NAND may experience more wear, slightly reducing lifespan (depending on usage patterns).
4. Good for Specific Use Cases:
• Best for read-heavy or light workloads like boot drives or casual storage where blazing-fast speeds are not essential.
Wondering If I should use this as the main SSD inside my Asus vivobook S16 AMD HX 370 version. I already bought one. Not sure about the thermals in this one considering its a thin and light laptop. the other options are Crucial T500 / Solidigm p44 / Hynix p41 / WD sn850x which are steep 40-70$ from this MSI m482 for 85$. if any of these comes around 120 or less, I think I'll pick one of those and then use the MSI one in enclosure to use as storage and backup only.
Use case - Browsing with a lot of Tabs, reading, entertainment, Work - Trading, using Audio processing software's like Guitar Rig, PreSonus - occasionally, Casual Gaming again occasionally with titles like GTA 5, Forza Horizon5, Asseto Corsa and the likes.
Will the MSI M482 be more than enough for my needs or should I get something with a DRAM if those goes on sale? or simply get one more of this MSI and save some money?
what are the chances those 4 which i shortlisted coming a lot cheaper during the next week?
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The msi 482 is a dram-less drive using the PHISON E27T controller and Kioxia BiCS6 162-layer tlc nand. While there aren't any professional reviews for this exact model, it has the exact same hardware configuration (assuming no unreported silent revisions have occurred) as the Corsair MP600 Elite.
Reviews for the mp600 elite (sharing the same hardware, so performance should be relatively comparable):
https://www.techpowerup
https://www.tomshardwar
While the lack of dram means this drive falls somewhat behind true top tier gen 4 drives in real world performance (the heavily marketed peak sequential speeds are essentially meaningless in the vast majority of actual use cases), host memory buffer (hmb) mitigates the majority of the issues from a lack of dram. Its performance is overall good for most common use cases, and should be sufficient for use as a boot drive if you're on a tighter budget. This drive should not be used in an external enclosure, as hmb only works when the drive is directly connected to the computer through the m.2 slot. Likewise, the ps5 doesn't support hmb, so I generally recommend drives with dram for use in a playstation. If msi chose a similar slc cache configuration as corsair, then this drive will likely be somewhat slower than expected for enormous (50gb+) write operations. This drive supports hardware encryption, and should work with hardware bitlocker (using software bitlocker can drastically reduce drive performance). The endurance rating of this ssd is 1200tbw, which is fairly standard for a modern 2tb tlc drive, and comes with a 5 year warranty which is also industry standard.
Overall, while this drive at $90 doesn't match the truly incredible deals (such as the $90 2tb sn850x) from back when the ssd market was much better a year ago, it's a pretty good value considering the current market. It is worth noting that Black Friday / Cyber Monday are coming up very soon, and it's entirely possible there'll be better deals then, so it might not be a bad idea to wait if you don't have an urgent need for a ssd.
This article [ign.com] claims that it's PS5 compatible, but it doesn't appear that they actually tested it.
Even though the hmb cache size is small, mapping tables for the vast majority of commonly accessed areas of the drive can be stored in system memory, therefore getting most of the primary benefits of dram without the increased costs. Performance will suffer in workloads involving many random access's for extremely large datasets, and overall performance will be lower due to additional overhead and reduced caching, but ultimately for most normal use cases hmb drives don't perform egregiously worse than drives with dram.
Also, regarding your statement about manufacturers "saving a few dimes", the cost reduction of foregoing dram is actually quite significant. Not only is dram (dynamic random access memory) many times more expensive per GB than nand flash, but it also generally requires a higher end and more expensive controller to go along with it, and adds additional complexity to the manufacturing process.
In conclusion, utilizing hmb with the drive in this deal will reduce available system ram by 64MB, not the 2GB you erroneously claimed. Please edit your original post to rectify your false claims and avoid spreading misinformation. In the future, please do some research before posting.
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This article [ign.com] claims that it's PS5 compatible, but it doesn't appear that they actually tested it.
I wouldn't suggest using it as a primary OS drive though. I bought one from Micro Center and they replaced it under warranty after 6 months then it died a week later and had to take it to MSI to warranty and it was hell waiting a month for them approve my warranty because they claimed I already had it replaced by Micro Center. Also when they did approve my warranty they sent me a DOA drive.
This article [ign.com] claims that it's PS5 compatible, but it doesn't appear that they actually tested it.
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This article [ign.com] claims that it's PS5 compatible, but it doesn't appear that they actually tested it.
1. Lower Performance:
• Random read/write operations may be slower.
• Latency is typically higher compared to SSDs with DRAM.
2. Cost-Effective:
• Drives without DRAM are generally cheaper and suited for budget-oriented builds.
3. Durability:
• Without a dedicated cache, the NAND may experience more wear, slightly reducing lifespan (depending on usage patterns).
4. Good for Specific Use Cases:
• Best for read-heavy or light workloads like boot drives or casual storage where blazing-fast speeds are not essential.
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Use case - Browsing with a lot of Tabs, reading, entertainment, Work - Trading, using Audio processing software's like Guitar Rig, PreSonus - occasionally, Casual Gaming again occasionally with titles like GTA 5, Forza Horizon5, Asseto Corsa and the likes.
Will the MSI M482 be more than enough for my needs or should I get something with a DRAM if those goes on sale? or simply get one more of this MSI and save some money?
what are the chances those 4 which i shortlisted coming a lot cheaper during the next week?