Costco Members: Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra 18 KWH Whole-Home Power Solution + Smart Panel

Bluelight

Nov 21, 2024 9:27 PM

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Quote from Efl

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YMMV. No pun intended. Not all vehicles can output 7200W so check the vehicle you're considering and your use case (which loads are you backing up). Some are limited to as little as 3600W.

Agreed, however on that point it is worth considering that if you're actually looking to draw the 7,200 watt output that this unit provides, you''re going to fully drain it in just over 2 hours.

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wilm345

Nov 21, 2024 10:08 PM

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wilm345Nov 21, 2024 10:08 PM

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Why not get a Tesla powerwall at this point

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bluSCALE4

Nov 21, 2024 10:14 PM

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Quote from wilm345

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Why not get a Tesla powerwall at this point

Powerwall uses explosive batteries, you lose 5kW and you need to buy something to add it to your breaker box I think. Easily more than double the price.

Last edited by bluSCALE4 November 21, 2024 at 03:13 PM.

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vivaelrivers

Nov 22, 2024 2:29 AM

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Quote from bluSCALE4

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Powerwall uses explosive batteries, you lose 5kW and you need to buy something to add it to your breaker box I think. Easily more than double the price.

New power walls are the same lithium iron phosphate

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m1ght

Nov 22, 2024 2:35 AM

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m1ghtNov 22, 2024 2:35 AM

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How useful/reliable is Smart Home Panel, if I don't want to go solar?

Can I just buy a normal 200A transfer switch, assuming power loss happens every few months, no daily/weekly?

iRenaissanceMan

Nov 22, 2024 2:51 AM

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Quote from AvantNate

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Scalable 18 kWh Solution Provides Up to a Week of Essential Power Supply
YMMV. My upright freezer alone uses 2kwh a day.

If you scale it enough, it'll cover a week. Smilie

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hpark21

Nov 22, 2024 3:00 AM

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Quote from Bluelight

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If you're in the market for a $9,000 home power solution, it might be worthwhile considering whether it makes sense in your situation to hold off for an EV that has V2L capabilities, such as the Ioniq 5. That would provide 4x the power storage capacity of this power solution and you could put this $9,000 right towards it.

Ioniq 5's V2L capability is severely limited. It is capped at 15A output which is like 3600w (respectable) at 220V BUT in North America, it is capped at 1800W on 110V. Even limited edition which can have 2 110V outlet, both V2L circuit is fused, so still can only output 1800W combined. It is like 1 circuit. Yes, it can power that circuit for a WHILE with 74KwH battery, but still only good for couple of fridges + TV probably.
If you want good V2L, most likely Ford Lightening is good.

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ask_j

Nov 22, 2024 3:12 AM

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ask_jNov 22, 2024 3:12 AM

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Are people buying this to be used instead of a generator? I was thinking of using this to save on peak power usage.. in CT they started charging extra $30-$50 as public charge. I have solar power at home and earlier my bill was only $10, since I produce enough energy during summer months (excess goes to grid using net metering) and it can be used in rest of the months.. now they started public charge as well as 3 cents extra per KwH energy consumed from the grid, even though it is getting reduced from the KWH in the bank.. I was thinking of using a battery solution to save energy in the battery and then use it when no sun etc.. but I will only be able to recoup my money in 15-20 years.. any other ideas??

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missmatch

Nov 22, 2024 3:24 AM

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Quote from ask_j

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Are people buying this to be used instead of a generator? I was thinking of using this to save on peak power usage.. in CT they started charging extra $30-$50 as public charge. I have solar power at home and earlier my bill was only $10, since I produce enough energy during summer months (excess goes to grid using net metering) and it can be used in rest of the months.. now they started public charge as well as 3 cents extra per KwH energy consumed from the grid, even though it is getting reduced from the KWH in the bank.. I was thinking of using a battery solution to save energy in the battery and then use it when no sun etc.. but I will only be able to recoup my money in 15-20 years.. any other ideas??

That's what I am thinking as well but not sure how to hook this up to the main panel EEK!

amartins02

Nov 22, 2024 3:24 AM

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amartins02Nov 22, 2024 3:24 AM

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Every city is different regarding permits. But, this isn't a battery that is grid tied in the sense that the power company can pull from it. Most of these, like the Anker F3800, can connect to your main panel via a breaker. Then it can detect a load on the panel and feed the panel an equivalent amount of power.

Personally I feel like these are DIY to install but that's up to the buyer and their capabilities.

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owl

Nov 22, 2024 3:35 AM

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This is my current thinking. It'd be better to spend $20-30k on a used Tesla that has 3-5x the battery capacity and serves as a form of transportation. It's not exactly apples to apples as not all Teslas do V2G or V2L, yet. But I'm holding out for that capability. Also, if you drive off, of course, you lose the battery power to your home, so it's not helpful if your car isn't home. But for the emergency situation where you are home, an EV battery seems like a much better investment than this.

I have a Tesla (model 3), tried out an older generation EcoFlow Delta Pro (also from Costco) and finally decided on a PowerWall. Without diving into all the comparisons and reasoning, this is why the PowerWall makes sense for me, but I would have only known this in hindsight after using the system for a year now:
- my EcoFlow fried, and fortunately it was able to go back to Costco; so, I don't trust the EcoFlow (even current gen) to be my go to 24/7
- couldn't find a great place to put the bulkier EcoFlow compared to the slim Tesla Powerwall (I live in San Francisco where space is a premium and the garage or outdoor spaces are also limited)
- Even if Tesla car could provide electricity, I use the PowerWall 24/7, either charging or actively using every day, so it's not just an emergency or backup system - this is mainly because…
- Electricity cost is now about $0.30-$0.60/kWh in the San Francisco Bay Area; getting the PowerWall allows me to go to switch to a PG&E electric car plan that gives me ~$0.30/kWh all day, year round, because I can now use electricity any time I want by using grid power during off-peak and Powerwall during peak; this shaves off about 25-35% off my monthly bill compared to any other PG&E rate plan without a Powerwall
- I don't have solar (not worth it at this point with the new Net Metering plans); break even will be about 7 years and maybe faster with anticipated PG&E rate increases
- Out of Pocket cost was about $15k directly from Tesla, and they took care of everything including permitting, install, and inspection - they also did a fairly good job; I received about $4500 back on my federal tax return as a credit and I got a brand new circuit breaker box with more future capacity. Smilie

. Got another few hundred from another Tesla rebate. Comparable EcoFlow + third party install would probably be a few thousand more, even if it could give me another hypothetical 4kWh
- the Tesla app and integration is great, and I will get back $100-200/year with the Tesla virtual power plant program

This is my specific case but hopefully helpful for some of you to know about if you haven't done the research yet.

Cheers.

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dkfresh

Nov 22, 2024 3:39 AM

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dkfreshNov 22, 2024 3:39 AM

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Wishing I had this right now...

- Powerless in Seattle

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JustinS1285

Nov 22, 2024 3:40 AM

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Quote from Bluelight

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If you're in the market for a $9,000 home power solution, it might be worthwhile considering whether it makes sense in your situation to hold off for an EV that has V2L capabilities, such as the Ioniq 5. That would provide 4x the power storage capacity of this power solution and you could put this $9,000 right towards it.

What it can power
The Ioniq 5's V2L system can supply up to 3.6 kW of AC power, which is enough to charge laptops, smartphones, power tools, and camping equipment.

This solution would provide 1/5 of this deal.

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billironman1

Nov 22, 2024 4:02 AM

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Quote from kirazhang45

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Is this DIY able? Do you need a permit to have this installed and running?

Free men don't ask permission

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WifeCallsMeCheap

Nov 22, 2024 4:17 AM

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Quote from AvantNate

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Scalable 18 kWh Solution Provides Up to a Week of Essential Power Supply
YMMV. My upright freezer alone uses 2kwh a day.

That's impossible! 2kw per day! Do you know how much power that is? I would junk that freezer and get something more energy efficient.

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