Leno returned to 11:30pm time slot

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01-26-2010 at 06:24 AM.

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This is what I find more amazing...

NBC: "Late Night with Jimmy Fallon" 3.3/10
CBS: "Late Show with David Letterman" 2.5/5

Fallon beat Letterman......!!!! Ugggg

This is why lead-ins are important. Send that article to the moron that thought Jay Leno at 10pm would work and then blamed bad ratings on Conan.

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01-26-2010 at 10:10 AM.

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That was me

I watched the first 10 minutes or so in Fallon's show. Then it got weird with the "Lick random sh*t for $10" bit. It wasn't funny..just...odd.

Same here. I don't like Lick it for 10, but I like his beer pong that he sometimes does. Fallon does interviews pretty well, esp. when he tells stories. But his stand-up/monologue sucks. Leno and O'Brien have the best monologues in terms of being able to make instant comebacks based on the audience's reaction (or lack thereof and acknowledging the joke sucked).

Letterman probably conducts the best interview. No one will ever beat the interview he had with Madonna some 15 years ago.

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01-26-2010 at 11:16 AM.

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Same here. I don't like Lick it for 10, but I like his beer pong that he sometimes does. Fallon does interviews pretty well, esp. when he tells stories. But his stand-up/monologue sucks. Leno and O'Brien have the best monologues in terms of being able to make instant comebacks based on the audience's reaction (or lack thereof and acknowledging the joke sucked).

Letterman probably conducts the best interview. No one will ever beat the interview he had with Madonna some 15 years ago.

To be fair, these guys have little to no input on the day-to-day comedic writing for the show. I'm sure they have veto power and probably cherry pick 5 mins of material from 15 mins of writing or something like that, but much of the monologue should be credited to the writing staff. Leno and Conan have honed and perfected their staffs (giggity giggity) for like 15 years, so it would be outlandish to expect Fallon to have as refined a writing staff. He'll probably get better in time.

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01-26-2010 at 12:30 PM.

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To be fair, these guys have little to no input on the day-to-day comedic writing for the show. I'm sure they have veto power and probably cherry pick 5 mins of material from 15 mins of writing or something like that, but much of the monologue should be credited to the writing staff. Leno and Conan have honed and perfected their staffs (giggity giggity) for like 15 years, so it would be outlandish to expect Fallon to have as refined a writing staff. He'll probably get better in time.

I'm sure Fallon will get better with time and acknowledge the audience's reaction better, but will he ever get as good as Leno and O'Brien? I doubt it, but I'll root for him to do so.

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01-26-2010 at 02:28 PM.

Expect more late-night talk show drama [cnn.com]

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01-26-2010 at 05:46 PM.

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Letterman is boring as hell though. At least jimmy has some spunk in him.

I'm really disappointed with Fallon. His monologue jokes are even worse than Leno's, he's copying Leno too much with those dull games, and some of his interviews fall completely flat. His thank-you notes and singing the news bits work, but overall he's worse than Letterman, despite trying harder.

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01-26-2010 at 06:46 PM.

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I would totally rather watch Letterman over Fallon. The only thing that bothers me about Letterman's show is Paul Farking Schaeffer. So annoying!!! All his lead-ins/jingles for the show's bits are the same: he yells it and then ends it with "YAHHHHHH!!!!!"

and the Top Ten lists are dumb. Otherwise, I think Letterman's a funny guy and is great at interviewing the guests.

Paul Shaffer is perfect because he loves everything about showbiz and people while Letterman is uncomfortable with both.

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01-26-2010 at 06:53 PM.

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I'm sure Fallon will get better with time and acknowledge the audience's reaction better, but will he ever get as good as Leno and O'Brien? I doubt it, but I'll root for him to do so.

I don't think Fallon is ever going to get that good. I don't think O'Brien was as good as Leno, but he's miles better than Fallon.

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01-26-2010 at 11:12 PM.

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I don't think Fallon is ever going to get that good. I don't think O'Brien was as good as Leno, but he's miles better than Fallon.

Apparently O'Brien's monologues sucked when he first started out with "Late Night", but it's much better now. We'll see about Fallon. I was a little surprised that NBC didn't promote Carson Daly to "Late Night", but I'm glad he didn't get the call.

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01-27-2010 at 07:39 AM.

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Apparently O'Brien's monologues sucked when he first started out with "Late Night", but it's much better now. We'll see about Fallon. I was a little surprised that NBC didn't promote Carson Daly to "Late Night", but I'm glad he didn't get the call.

Yea he even makes fun of himself for it. During his 10th Anniversary special, Mr. T brought him a gold chain with a '7' on it. Conan tells him that he's actually been on the air for 10 years, but Mr. T says "I know, but you've only been funny for 7, fool!"

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01-27-2010 at 08:58 AM.

NBC exec said keeping Leno from ABC was 'primary focus' [cnn.com]

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Yea he even makes fun of himself for it. During his 10th Anniversary special, Mr. T brought him a gold chain with a '7' on it. Conan tells him that he's actually been on the air for 10 years, but Mr. T says "I know, but you've only been funny for 7, fool!"

Well, at least even Mr. T acknowledged that O'Brien has been funny of over half the time he hosted that show.