Mendham Bikes has
27.5" Haven Bikes Power Wave 250W Step Thru Electric Hybrid Bike (Silver, Small or Medium) on sale for $899.99 - $449.99 with discount code
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$450.
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About this Item:
- The Power Wave features a lightweight aluminum frame and fork, rear luggage rack, front and rear fenders and a versatile 8 speed drivetrain. The hydraulic disc brakes provide excellent stopping power. It's 250 Watt, 36V Mid-Drive Bafang motor will provide an extra power boost with higher effort pedaling, thanks to its intelligent drive unit.
- Max Weight: 250lbs.
- Boost Engage: Pedal Assist
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The first bike arrived damaged and unusable. They refused to honor their return policy, insisting that I either repair it myself (they sent me a link to a YouTube video wtf) or bring it to a mechanic at my own risk. Suffice to say, I opened a credit card dispute and am still fighting to retain my credit.
The second bike hadn't been shipped when the issues with the first began, so I requested a cancellation, which they confirmed. Then they shipped it anyway. I refused the delivery. It arrived at their facility 2 weeks ago and I still haven't received a refund. Another dispute was opened and I'm having to deal with that now.
Edit: just checked and the first dispute was finally resolved in my favor just this morning. Now on to the second dispute…
I ordered one of the Able bikes in the last deal. About three weeks went by between the time of the order and when I realized I hadn't received the bike. Meanwhile, they spammed the heck out of my email account with other "promotions". I emailed the general customer service email address demanding they provide me an update. No response. About another week goes by and I get a "your order shipped" email notification. Great! Fantastic! Except that a few hours after receiving that email, I got a retraction saying they had made a mistake and my order hadn't shipped.
I emailed them to demand cancellation of the order based on the long wait and my spidey senses telling me something was off. I actually got a response within a few hours that acknowledged my request and told me the order would be cancelled. Guess what? The next day, Mendham shipped the bike. Geez. When I got the shipment notification, I started checking the tracking and noticed it took them more than a day to actually ship the bike (they just issued tracking by creating a shipping label). In the interim, I again emailed them about cancellation and warned them not to ship. No response. The bike arrived and box and interior parts were beat to hell. I put in a dispute with my credit card company, who immediately issued a confirmation of successful dispute, a sign they know what Mendham is up to. I tried several more times to demand they take the bike back. They finally responded on the third email and asked for a huge list of items. I took the bike to a charity that fixes up bikes and gives to kids in need. I'll just rely on my CC underwriter.
Please save yourself from the same headaches and from having to write an equally painful testimonial on SD by just skipping this "deal". It's not a deal and if you research online, you find the bikes are junk anyways.
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A relatively unknown e-bike company that doesn't have a good Facebook site or any reviews available hardly anywhere. And I have no idea if I can find a spare battery or a price for one.
I'm just not sold on giving this one a try I really wanted to. But there seems to be too many details that seem elusive. Good luck to everyone who gets one. I hope you will return to post some feedback. Maybe I'll try another time.
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Plus, it comes with fenders and a rack. Fenders are surprisingly expensive, and difficult to install. Including them is worth at least $100 to me.
Don't be fooled by the "250W" rating...European regulations say that ebikes can't put out more than 250 "average" watts, so any motor sold to the European market will claim it has 250 watts no matter how much power it actually generates. As mentioned, it has 80nM torque, which is nearly as powerful as the motor on a $3500 MTB, and far more than a typical hub drive.
Mid-drives are better because they use regular bicycle rear wheels. Fixing flats on a hub drive wheel is an ordeal that requires tools and a lot of time. Fixing flats on a mid-drive is just like a regular bike, and you can do it by the side of the road.
Torque sensors are better because they help you out right away, not just after you get going, and because they feel more natural to pedal. Instead of feeling like there's a motor pushing you, you just feel like your legs are really strong.
The only disadvantage of this bike, besides some cheap components, is the smaller battery. To get battery power, multiply the voltage times the amp-hours to get watt-hours. Average batteries have about 500WH. An extended range battery will have about 750WH. Cheap batteries have 300-400WH.
This battery has 36V w/11.6 AMP Hours IF they're telling the truth, which no-name brands usually don't. That would be just over 400WH, which is definitely in the "smaller battery" range, especially when you take into account that it's almost surely exaggerated. But you'll pay $450 or more for a larger battery on its own, so this isn't a surprise at the price point.
If I needed a commuter ebike, I would buy one of these. Hardly anyone rides their bike more than 30 miles at a time!
Plus, it comes with fenders and a rack. Fenders are surprisingly expensive, and difficult to install. Including them is worth at least $100 to me.
Don't be fooled by the "250W" rating...European regulations say that ebikes can't put out more than 250 "average" watts, so any motor sold to the European market will claim it has 250 watts no matter how much power it actually generates. As mentioned, it has 80nM torque, which is nearly as powerful as the motor on a $3500 MTB, and far more than a typical hub drive.
Mid-drives are better because they use regular bicycle rear wheels. Fixing flats on a hub drive wheel is an ordeal that requires tools and a lot of time. Fixing flats on a mid-drive is just like a regular bike, and you can do it by the side of the road.
Torque sensors are better because they help you out right away, not just after you get going, and because they feel more natural to pedal. Instead of feeling like there's a motor pushing you, you just feel like your legs are really strong.
The only disadvantage of this bike, besides some cheap components, is the smaller battery. To get battery power, multiply the voltage times the amp-hours to get watt-hours. Average batteries have about 500WH. An extended range battery will have about 750WH. Cheap batteries have 300-400WH.
This battery has 36V w/11.6 AMP Hours IF they're telling the truth, which no-name brands usually don't. That would be just over 400WH, which is definitely in the "smaller battery" range, especially when you take into account that it's almost surely exaggerated. But you'll pay $450 or more for a larger battery on its own, so this isn't a surprise at the price point.
If I needed a commuter ebike, I would buy one of these. Hardly anyone rides their bike more than 30 miles at a time!
I did get a Slick Deal on a previous post for a Juiced RipCurrent, and I like their designs, accessories, customer support etc… I'm looking to get another Juiced bike for my wife. I was seriously considering this bike 27.5" mid-drive and it's possibly impressive, but there doesn't appear to be enough support to reel me in for this deal.
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I ordered one of the Able bikes in the last deal. About three weeks went by between the time of the order and when I realized I hadn't received the bike. Meanwhile, they spammed the heck out of my email account with other "promotions". I emailed the general customer service email address demanding they provide me an update. No response. About another week goes by and I get a "your order shipped" email notification. Great! Fantastic! Except that a few hours after receiving that email, I got a retraction saying they had made a mistake and my order hadn't shipped.
I emailed them to demand cancellation of the order based on the long wait and my spidey senses telling me something was off. I actually got a response within a few hours that acknowledged my request and told me the order would be cancelled. Guess what? The next day, Mendham shipped the bike. Geez. When I got the shipment notification, I started checking the tracking and noticed it took them more than a day to actually ship the bike (they just issued tracking by creating a shipping label). In the interim, I again emailed them about cancellation and warned them not to ship. No response. The bike arrived and box and interior parts were beat to hell. I put in a dispute with my credit card company, who immediately issued a confirmation of successful dispute, a sign they know what Mendham is up to. I tried several more times to demand they take the bike back. They finally responded on the third email and asked for a huge list of items. I took the bike to a charity that fixes up bikes and gives to kids in need. I'll just rely on my CC underwriter.
Please save yourself from the same headaches and from having to write an equally painful testimonial on SD by just skipping this "deal". It's not a deal and if you research online, you find the bikes are junk anyways.
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Please save yourself from the same headaches and from having to write an equally painful testimonial on SD by just skipping this "deal". It's not a deal and if you research online, you find the bikes are junk anyways.
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The first bike arrived damaged and unusable. They refused to honor their return policy, insisting that I either repair it myself (they sent me a link to a YouTube video wtf) or bring it to a mechanic at my own risk. Suffice to say, I opened a credit card dispute and am still fighting to retain my credit.
The second bike hadn't been shipped when the issues with the first began, so I requested a cancellation, which they confirmed. Then they shipped it anyway. I refused the delivery. It arrived at their facility 2 weeks ago and I still haven't received a refund. Another dispute was opened and I'm having to deal with that now.
Edit: just checked and the first dispute was finally resolved in my favor just this morning. Now on to the second dispute…
If its really the same bike, is it still not worth the gamble?
E-bikes are good for getting into the habit of biking, especially if you have bad joints. Biking is in many ways a great exercise as it has less impacts than walking so it is easier on your knees and joints. It also has a greater sense of accomplishment as 30m of biking will travel several times farther than walking so there's a bit of brain-trickery.
The best bikes for exercise have torque sensors, which are more expensive, You essentially set up how hard you want to pedal and the bike does work above and beyond that. So it takes off the "peak" effort. This let's you built up muscle and endurance. As you hit the point where its not work, you raise the torque bar so you do more work.
Cadence sensors essentially take out the "baseline" effort, leaving you to add the "extra'. That extra is where you feel that pain, encouraging you to do even less work and rely on the motor.
If you aren't willing to spring for a torque sensor bike, go all the way cheap and get a low wattage bike with a throttle. (250w-300w). Set it to minimal assist and use the throttle as needed on hills and things. This will let you have that extra boost you need to make it a lower-impact exercise but won't tempt you to treat them as mini-motorcycles and defeat the purpose.
Then when you've decided it's worth it, spend the money on a bike with a torque sensor when that cheap bike dies in 2-3 years,
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