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Jan 5, 2025 8:57 AM

20TB Seagate Expansion Desktop USB 3.0 External Hard Drive

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Best Buy also has 20TB Seagate Expansion Desktop USB 3.0 External Hard Drive on sale for $229.99. Shipping is free.

B&H Photo Video has 20TB Seagate Expansion Desktop USB 3.0 External Hard Drive on sale for $229.99. Shipping fees apply (starting from $10.43).

Thanks to Community Member OrangeRecess770 for finding this deal.

Features:
  • 20TB Storage Capacity
  • USB 3.0 Interface
  • AC Powered
  • Rescue Data Recovery Services
  • Includes USB 3.0 Cable
  • Preformatted exFAT
  • Windows and Mac Compatible

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  • This comes out to just $12/TB
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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Update: This popular offer is still available

Best Buy also has 20TB Seagate Expansion Desktop USB 3.0 External Hard Drive on sale for $229.99. Shipping is free.

B&H Photo Video has 20TB Seagate Expansion Desktop USB 3.0 External Hard Drive on sale for $229.99. Shipping fees apply (starting from $10.43).

Thanks to Community Member OrangeRecess770 for finding this deal.

Features:
  • 20TB Storage Capacity
  • USB 3.0 Interface
  • AC Powered
  • Rescue Data Recovery Services
  • Includes USB 3.0 Cable
  • Preformatted exFAT
  • Windows and Mac Compatible

Editor's Notes

Written by citan359 | Staff
  • This comes out to just $12/TB
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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Jan 5, 2025 7:11 PM
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rbtree1Jan 5, 2025 7:11 PM
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Quote from roy454ewb View quoted comment :
Good catch! I did notice that having a free shipping item in addition to the drive in the cart ended up eliminating the shipping charge. Also, I'll be using my Payboo card which eliminates the sales tax for me.
Quote from roy454ewb View quoted comment :
Good catch! I did notice that having a free shipping item in addition to the drive in the cart ended up eliminating the shipping charge. Also, I'll be using my Payboo card which eliminates the sales tax for me.
I have all the HDD's I need at this time, but being a pro shooter, I use B&H and their Payboo card often. I've also noticed the ease of eliminating any possible shipping charges.
Jan 5, 2025 7:25 PM
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Guy767Jan 5, 2025 7:25 PM
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Quote from gamingdroid View quoted comment :
it would cost roughly $80/month. Glacier S3 from memory also takes time to get access. However, it's likely among the cheapest options out there.
The cheapest solution for backups in theory would be Usenet which is free IMO. If you get a decent provider that has 6,000 day retention you can upload your encrypted/obfuscated backups to a random binary Usenet group (EG a.b.boneless).

The thing is that the backups would be available to anyone for years but since the data would be encrypted and the names obfuscated there should be very little risk; in theory that is. I'm too much of coward to try this out for myself though laugh out loud

Quote from gamingdroid View quoted comment :
Damn! Where do you live that has such low sales tax?.
I used the $5 off coupon that Best Buy randomly sent me via email recently that was spoken of in this thread. The total was $237.36

Code:
Your Order Summary.
Subtotal 	$229.99
Shipping 	FREE
Other Savings 	- $5.00
Estimated Sales Tax 	$12.37
Total 		$237.36
Jan 5, 2025 7:28 PM
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gamingdroidJan 5, 2025 7:28 PM
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Quote from Guy767 View quoted comment :
The cheapest solution for backups in theory would be Usenet which is free IMO. If you get a decent provider that has 6,000 day retention you can upload your encrypted/obfuscated backups to a random binary Usenet group (EG a.b.boneless).

The thing is that the backups would be available to anyone for years but since the data would be encrypted and the names obfuscated there should be very little risk; in theory that is. I'm too much of coward to try this out for myself though



I used the $5 off coupon that Best Buy randomly sent me via email recently that was spoken of in this thread. The total was $237.36
Code:Your Order Summary.
Subtotal $229.99
Shipping FREE
Other Savings - $5.00
Estimated Sales Tax $12.37
Total $237.36
Oh, I see. I didn't get the $5 coupon on my account that I had $300 worth of rewards from that OLED C3 77" deal. Those rewards don't pay taxes on, so that was nice in my case.

I had another account via family member that did get $5 though, but what am I going to do with $300 BB in rewards?

I rarely shop there.

PS, regarding encrypted on usenet. Nah, I'm not doing that especially with sensitive data. Today that encryption might hold, tomorrow it might not.... Cool idea though.

If you need replication, I'd just get Synology (or something similar) and sync them from different locations.
Last edited by gamingdroid January 5, 2025 at 11:31 AM.
Jan 5, 2025 8:05 PM
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frostymmbJan 5, 2025 8:05 PM
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Quote from RazorConcepts View quoted comment :
Boomer meme from 2001 when seagate made horrible deskstar (deathstar) drives that failed at an abnormally high rate.


Today they make the most reliable drives.
Source?
Jan 5, 2025 8:13 PM
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mason1ngJan 5, 2025 8:13 PM
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Quote from RazorConcepts View quoted comment :
Boomer meme from 2001 when seagate made horrible deskstar (deathstar) drives that failed at an abnormally high rate.


Today they make the most reliable drives.
Wasn't that Hitachi?
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Jan 5, 2025 8:19 PM
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pcman2000Jan 5, 2025 8:19 PM
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Quote from RazorConcepts View quoted comment :
Boomer meme from 2001 when seagate made horrible deskstar (deathstar) drives that failed at an abnormally high rate.


Today they make the most reliable drives.
Well no and debatable, good try though.
Jan 5, 2025 8:25 PM
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outzJan 5, 2025 8:25 PM
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Quote from gamingdroid View quoted comment :
Yeah, I was going to say this. It was IBM, and then later HGST. That said, the Deskstar was still among the best drives at the time. It was just unfortunate one particular model damage the brand forever.



Briefly looking your source and based on AFR, it looks like both Toshiba and WD has much earlier failure rates. There's a spike on the Seagate drive, but overall they seem to be in-line.

What am I missing?



That's still pricey (for me). Say to backup this 20TB drive, it would cost roughly $80/month. Glacier S3 from memory also takes time to get access. However, it's likely among the cheapest options out there.
yeah, also depends which glacier options you choose. i don't mind there being an extended time to access as this is a backup of a backup.

there's a few glacier options to play with to get it even cheaper
i've got mine down to $0.00099 per GB-Month so ~$1/mo per TB.

cheaper/faster would be to buy several drives and just keep one offsite. bank vault etc and just cycle them out periodically with one you keep on-prem

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Jan 5, 2025 8:29 PM
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atomicdustJan 5, 2025 8:29 PM
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Quote from RazorConcepts View quoted comment :
Boomer meme from 2001 when seagate made horrible deskstar (deathstar) drives that failed at an abnormally high rate.


Today they make the most reliable drives.
They make hard drives, but wouldn't say that they're the most reliable ones.
Jan 5, 2025 8:35 PM
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teucerJan 5, 2025 8:35 PM
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Quote from FrozenBeer View quoted comment :
while I have done my fair share of research in the last couple of years, I still haven't decided if it's wise to use one of these giant hard drives as a backup for my secondary backups of my old family photos, videos and other junk. (currently around 15TB of stuff... they are currently on the original media, two 10TB hard drives, on the cloud(both Google Drive and iCloud), as well as data Blu-ray discs.

My thinking is that I can NEVER have enough back-ups.(of back-ups of back-ups) because any one of them can and probably will fail several years down the road? Smilie

When big SSDs4TB or 8GB+ are cheap enough, I may also look into getting some of those as another form of back up?

Sound paranoid... well... yes... becuase while I was backing up stuff, two of my back-up drives died within a day of each other, (one WD and one Seagate) and I lost all of my converted film and photos between 1980 and 1985. Frown That's why everythying that I have currently has at least 3 different forms of back-ups on different medias or the cloud, at a minimum, and stored at different locations(my house or with my other family members)
Sounds like you should build some sort of NAS storage solution.
Jan 5, 2025 8:49 PM
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gamingdroidJan 5, 2025 8:49 PM
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Quote from outz View quoted comment :
yeah, also depends which glacier options you choose. i don't mind there being an extended time to access as this is a backup of a backup.

there's a few glacier options to play with to get it even cheaper
i've got mine down to $0.00099 per GB-Month so ~$1/mo per TB.

cheaper/faster would be to buy several drives and just keep one offsite. bank vault etc and just cycle them out periodically with one you keep on-prem
FYI (although you probably already know), but Synology and other NAS do offer syncing between NAS. That is, whatever you put on one NAS, it will sync it to another NAS at a different location.

It's probably good enough for most people and considerably cheaper than paying monthly. Assuming you already have internet at both locations (with one having fast upload speed), it will pay for itself pretty fast.
Jan 5, 2025 9:02 PM
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AprilWatermelonJan 5, 2025 9:02 PM
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Quote from jsmith2 View quoted comment :
However does not include free shipping...
Very interesting the order I placed this morning included free shipping - now its extra $10
Jan 5, 2025 9:22 PM
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hw1234Jan 5, 2025 9:22 PM
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Quote from gamingdroid View quoted comment :
Damn! Where do you live that has such low sales tax?

Only lower I've seen is sales tax free states like Oregon.




Definitely bad warranty, but from what I gather these contains EXOS and IronWolf's drive (except for the recent Barracuda drive that may be HAMR drive to boot). Supposedly the inner drives are registered with a different warranty period, but I have not heard anyone claim on those to see if Seagate honors that.

If it's an EXO or Ironwolf, they're good enterprise drives.
I bought this same drive a week ago. Crystaldiskinfo shows a Barracuda drive.
Jan 5, 2025 9:24 PM
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sr27Jan 5, 2025 9:24 PM
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Quote from RazorConcepts View quoted comment :
Boomer meme from 2001 when seagate made horrible deskstar (deathstar) drives that failed at an abnormally high rate.


Today they make the most reliable drives.
Can you back this up? Not a boomer but they always failed. Anytime someone complained of failed drive, it was almost certain to say sea gate on it.
Jan 5, 2025 9:26 PM
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zopiJan 5, 2025 9:26 PM
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If these are Exos X20 drives, I found the second paragraph of this review at Storage Review to be interesting (that they are slower than Iron Wolf drives due to different firmware):

https://www.storagereview.com/rev...hdd-review

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Jan 5, 2025 9:36 PM
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gamingdroidJan 5, 2025 9:36 PM
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Quote from hw1234 View quoted comment :
I bought this same drive a week ago. Crystaldiskinfo shows a Barracuda drive.
Exact same in 20TB size?

You got manufacturing date you can share?

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