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expiredMalaibazaar posted Jan 05, 2025 04:50 PM
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expiredMalaibazaar posted Jan 05, 2025 04:50 PM
24-Month Lease on 2024 VW ID.4 RWD Electric Vehicle
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one of the worst cars i've ever owned, technology is very poorly designed and frustrating, countless recalls and range is mediocre at best.
there are many more comparable options when it comes to EV. Chevy Equinox being one that is also very well priced.
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The hundreds of thousands of paid users of it would suggest otherwise.
The Y has many trims, across a wide array of pricing, that has changed significantly over time.
Same as lots of car models with various trims and price points that adjust over time....
So not even sure what you're trying to communicate here by citing vehicle pricing and pretending it's a single number-- which it never has been.
This is flat out false.
The features you list are not part of FSD- they're basic features that come free with the car.
FSD adds, among other things, automatic supervised driving on city streets- a feature nobody else in the US offers on a consumer vehicle.
(it's also adds more advanced highway functions beyond the basic stuff- those things ARE offered by other car companies- but they all charge for them and generally don't work as well or as in as many places).
Again flat out untrue- 0 companies in the US sell a driverless car in the US to consumers.
Again this is flatly false.
Their 2023 results are here:
https://digitalassets.tesla.com/t...Update.pdf [tesla.com]
Regulatory credits were 1.79 billion for all of 2023.
Total auto sales for 2023 were 78.5 billion.
Total auto leases for 2023 were 2.12 billion.
Leasing ALONE was more revenue for 2023 than credits, and auto sales were more than 40x higher than regulator credit revenue for 2023.
Is there a reason you keep, wrongly, believing all your expert friends aren't correct?
Can you cite where that was announced, specifically- and WHAT was announced, specifically?
It's not though.
Check out the EPA efficiency rating of say a GM BEV truck vs a Tesla one. The Hummer EV has nearly 2x the battery size of the CT, but has only about a 20%ish greater range.
Can't even tell what this sentence means. FSD has been active in hundreds of thousands of Teslas- for years now in the US. It doesn't need to "pass" any tests for that- it's already in use and legal.
Again- outright false.
SpaceX has been doing doing contracts vastly cheaper (and with a much higher rate of success) for the government than all the "blank check" defense contractors like Boeing were doing before them.
They've largely REPLACED the overspending you describe with a much better alternative.
Anyways- lets get back to the deal.
If you know any place that is giving me $149 lease with 0 down for a Model-Y (or even Model-3) then I will get one today. If not then its a moot point on whether Tesla is world leader or not; because if you read my response with your blinders off and shoot straight then you will get the point I was trying to make.
Regarding the driverless cars and taxis- I know Waymo already has this tech and its in use. Regarding, Level-3 autonomous driving Mercedes is selling cars with it. Its something that Tesla has been trying to do forever but have never gone Beyond Level-2. Of course with relaxed regulations under the new administration they will be able to push that through.
And with regards to carbon credits and the EV credits that Tesla fully used to its advantage you again scoot around and show me the revenue numbers. For most people on this forum that do not understand accounting a Revenue of 80 billion vs carbon credit of 2 billion will sound quite low. But they will not realize that you are using revenue numbers instead of income numbers.
Again, its pointless arguing with you because clearly you are argumentative and will not get the general gist of the message but will pick and choose to twist wherever it suits you. An Example being when I mentioned a Model Y cost 65k it did not mean that every single Model-Y ever sold was 65k. Most people with a common sense would have gotten the gist of the message and realized what the point was. But instead you chose to argue on that as well.
Ohh- and just for the knowledge for the many folks that may be read this- FSD stands for Full Self Driving. Everyone who is reading this please read each word slowly and please think what it means. Full......Self........Driving. Last I heard and read, Tesla does not have that yet. So its 15k down the drain. I wish those owners who you claim are "happy" would have just bought 15k of Tesla stocks instead of the FSD; the value of the stock itself would be about 50k (maybe even more) at this time, and with covered calls in these many years they could have made even more.
Anyways, peace out as this is going nowhere. Arguing about anything on any online forum is just a waste of time. This is not paying me anything, but the stock market was closed today, so I got nothing better to do.
should come with 3 year EA supercharging, but no preconditioning.
What is that about? why even call me in that case.
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