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expired Posted by cmdauria • Mar 2, 2025
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24TB Seagate Expansion External USB 3.0 Desktop Hard Drive
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I ordered 3, returned 2 and shucked 1 to toss in my NAS with an exos from a previous order. It's quite, runs at 7200 RPM, and didn't have any issues after a 2 day long self test. With a Synology DS1522+ set to max performance fan speed it runs ~4c hotter than the exos at an avg temp of 42c when writing, but light read/Idle is down to 33c and the exos is 32c. No noticeable difference in throughput in the array. When it was still in the enclosure it shipped in, I tested and saw ~240mbps write vs the exos @ ~270, and 48c max temp vs 40c for the exos.
I've heard of some people getting lucky and finding an Exos drive in the enclosure, but that seems to be for the earlier models manufactured before 2024. In my opinion, what you are most likely to get with both 20TB and 24TB is a Barracuda CMR 7200RPM drive with 512MB cache and a measly/terrible/unacceptable 1-year warranty [seagate.com].
I have the 20TB STKP20000400, and it has been working fine for about 2 months now. However, they are loud and slow when waking up from sleep/spindown; I would dare say they are the loudest externals I've ever owned. However, once they are initiated/started, they are quiet and quite quick. (I'm getting 250-300MB/s transfer speeds; the fastest I've experienced for externals.)
Overall, these are fine for typical backups and light Plex Media Server usage (I've been watching/streaming 4k content just fine for nearly 2 months now with the STKP20000400). However, for shucking and NAS applications, I would not recommend these due to the anemic 1-year warranty and Barracuda drives' terrible reputation.
Drive inside: ST24000NM002H-3KS133 (Exos)
Oh, and it comes with only 1 year warranty - which is disappointing and way less than the refurbs I bought from serverpartdeals (though the prices for server part deals now went up)
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Basically these drives are Trash, 150TB workload a year is drive just asking to give you smart errors , especially if the datasheet says it can only handle 100 days out of a year for power on usage.
20-24TB HAMR Barracudas have a work load rating of 150TB a year and can only be left on 100 days out of 365 days. This is not a NAS drive. Loud too because there is no anti vibration sensors. The new HAMR EXOs 30TB will certainly be quieter and can almost guarantee the white label 20-24TB drives from WD are 2-4x better when it comes to reliability especially if they have similar specs to a Red pro with a 550TB workload rating per year.
AI is more right than you right now.
Again not a NAS rated drive. Even WD shucked White label is a NAS drive. Barrcuda 24TB with a 120TB workload rating is pitiful even if it is CMR. This drive specs state for the 20-24TB Barracuda CMR that it is only rated for 2400 hours a year , or 100 days on . Practically the Same SPEC as the Barracuda 8TB SMR drives with 80MB/s faster transfer speed. This is why many on multiple threads this has gone on sale , they are returning them.
https://www.seagate.com/www-conte...-en_US.pdf
Again
These drives have inferior parts compared to a WD White Label , Seagate EXOs , Seagate Ironwolf drives.
The only good thing seagate is doing with this drive is giving the population cheaper alternative for TB per dollar. Which will ultimately drop prices. Even best buy is will be selling the 26-28TB enclosure with these Barracudas , Failed Enterprise CMR HAMR drives , with bad platters with a very poor FW.
I would not recommend this Barracuda in a NAS . Great for desktop use but not made to be left on 24/7 365 days a year. You are asking for trouble
Also AI is currently more right than you right now.
For NAS, it's recommended to use dedicated NAS hard drives like Seagate IronWolf or IronWolf Pro, which offer:
Optimized firmware for RAID setups and multi-drive environments.
Higher endurance for continuous operation.
Vibration sensors to reduce drive failure risks in multi-drive arrays.
Error recovery control to prevent excessive timeouts in RAID arrays.
Using a Barracuda in a NAS may lead to higher failure rates, performance issues, and potential data loss over time. If you're setting up a NAS, investing in a NAS-specific drive like Seagate IronWolf, WD Red Plus, or Toshiba N300 is a much safer choice.
Dead quiet, external, absolutely massive (so no need for multiple drives), EXOS enterprise reliability, had free $10 BB gift card so brought it down to just under $300.
Only takes 6 watts which 24/7 equates to $22 a year for me. This was the right drive for me.
I ordered two, lucked out with Exos. Ordered two more, then I learned about the Barracudas.
Here is a link to my post in another thread about the difference between the Exos and the Barracudas: https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=175907806&postcount=156&peid=e4fa5c39-a850-4f45-9c74-e3...
I will not be taking any chances of ordering online. They would have to be in stock in the store and the boxes able to be examined (not locked up) to tell if they are Exos or Barracuda.
What are you looking for on the box that states Exo or Barracuda? I assume the part number of either drive?
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New stock was replenished and best buy never had these drives available in store
so far reviews show 2.5 out of 5 stars
The only good thing about these drives is that These barracudas will bring the entire TB per dollar market crashing. This is the only good thing about this drive. Other than that I expect these drives to fail quickly. Good for loading up minecraft i guess. 279+ tax one can buy a recert exo and still will last longer because of the specs .
Everyone is already returning these drives and i am not the only person telling facts.
https://www.seagate.com/www-conte...-en_US.pdf
No one is spreading false facts even AI is not picking up the datasheet on this crap drive.
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A 24TB Seagate Barracuda CMR drive is not ideal for a NAS (Network Attached Storage) as it is primarily designed for desktop PCs and not optimized for the continuous read/write operations typical in a NAS environment; while it might work for basic storage needs with infrequent access, dedicated NAS drives like the Seagate IronWolf series are better suited for heavy usage in a NAS setup.
Key reasons why a Barracuda isn't optimal for NAS:
Not designed for high workload:
Barracuda drives are not built to handle the constant data access and write cycles that a NAS experiences, which can lead to shorter lifespan when used in a NAS.
Lower reliability:
Compared to dedicated NAS drives, Barracudas may have less robust error correction mechanisms, potentially impacting data integrity in a NAS environment.
Vibration resistance:
NAS drives often have features to counteract vibrations within a multi-bay enclosure, which Barracuda drives might lack.
Better options for NAS:
Seagate IronWolf:
Specifically designed for NAS use with features like advanced error recovery and vibration resistance.
WD Red:
Another popular choice for NAS storage, offering similar features to the IronWolf.
Sitting here with my 24TB EXOS drive at $270
I live in Bay area CA
This barracuda is not considered a NAS drive so sustained data rates will drop off a cliff
also depends on the RAID setup and what files are being moved. A bunch of tiny files like roms for emulation etc could slow it down.
i would return it and shuck a WD when they go on sale home lab community have been using these for years in true nas/ unraid /synology with no complaints. or go with a recert from SPD
i run 3 , 24 bay supermicros filled to the max, 2 disk parity in unraid, True nas core all running 10Gbps lan , and have rebuilt arrays over 50 times with unraid. not once have i had an issue with WD white label drives or a seagate exo x18, x20, x22, x24 they have been powered on for over 3 years. I monitor smart data through scrutiny container and do smart tests monthly.
I am running all 18TB+ currently managing over 1.2 PiB about to build another epyc 48 core using a 36 bay supermicro which will run true nas scale and will be filled with exos, WD white labels.
As long as you own a UPS and properly cool your drives they should last and be ok. However i would not trust barracuda specs even if it is a CMR
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