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EcoFlow 6144Wh Delta Pro Ultra Battery (EFDeltaProUltra-BP-US) for
$1599.
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Features:- LiFePO4 Solar Battery with 21600 peak watts/7200 running watts
- Online UPS, 0-ms transfer time
- 5.6kW-16.8kW solar input with up to 3 inverters
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why are you presuming to speak for everyone, as if you know everyone's needs? many people do not have an existing system, but are only exploring backup or energy savings for the first time. did that ever occur to you? what are you even doing in this thread if you think ecoflow is such a joke?
doesn't need to be outside, because the dpu is *quiet*, unlike much of the diy aio inverters out there. if i bought some of the eg4 stuff, i would need to put it outside in the cold, so i wouldn't have to listen to the hair dryer-like screaming fans all the time.
proprietary design, blah, blah, blah. you can plug in whatever sort of solar panels you want to it, even smaller ones to start out with. many aio's require a minimum of 120 volts or more just to get the solar going. you only need 80 with the ecoflow dpu for the high pv input.
once you have at least one ef battery paired with the inverter, you don't have to buy any more. you can add whatever cheap storage you want to it, if you're so inclined. you can buy a cheap 12v 100 ah battery for extra capacity, or you can buy any sort of server rack battery, or the 14.3 kwh wall mount eg4 battery someone mentioned earlier. all of that can feed the ecoflow if you want.
you are such a presumptuous prick, that i wouldn't want to deal with you or your company for a solar system. i don't need your help anyhow, i can do diy, or a combination of diy + ecoflow if i want. you apparently aren't invested in the ecoflow system, and yet you are here pushing your viewpoint, so aren't you proof that some of the folks on this thread (like you) are not substantially invested in ecoflow? so why do you make assumptions that folks like me are so invested in ecoflow, when you're here and apparently are not invested?
what about the fella who suggested eg4 was a better value. is he so heavily invested in ecoflow too? stop making assumptions and presuming to know what's best for everyone. if you don't like ecoflow, i don't care.
so, what are you doing here then?
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I am glad that I sent my Ultra back and went DIY though got way more for my money and can easily repare/replace/upgrade any components.
By comparison this ~6kWh battery on sale for $1600 is a super super low price.
$850 for a 5kWh battery from Eco-Worthy is your every day price.
Do the math, for anything whole home as the Ultra is designed for you are going to want a lot of batteries and it will add up to a lot, not to mention the main feature I wanted was EPS (emergency power) for the UPS function AND to use Solar to save money to help pay for the system.
Both the the Pro 3 and the Ultra modes cant use EPS and any of the money saving features like Self Power Mode at the same time, a really common feature for any whole home setup and the main way I intended to use it, so I sent it back.
I kept all my smaller stuff though. I love the Delta 3 Plus units and use them as UPS around the house and will permanently install one with the Alternator Charger in both my truck and my wifes SUV.
IMO Ecoflow is great for small portable stuff, once you step up to anything bigger than an RV there are much better options that have more capabilities, capacities, functionalities and still cost you less.
Now I am building a hybrid setup I'll be using a standard solar setup to actually power the Delta 3 Plus via 48v PV been working great for me as a way to keep cost low, production high, for a fast ROI.
I am glad that I sent my Ultra back and went DIY though got way more for my money and can easily repare/replace/upgrade any components.
then you have take into account the extra cost of wires, cables, lugs, crimpers, heat shrink, fuses, busbars, shunts, etc. all of it adds up to the total cost of installation.
what about those who don't own their own home, but are renters, and can't go around punching holes in the wall and modifying their main breaker panel, etc.
also, some of these diy setups are not necessarily to code, are considered a permanent install, and need to be permitted and inspected, while a power station like this is considered portable and not permanent, so one can get away with using one of these a lot easier without a permit or inspection.
there are many reasons why someone would want one of these, over piecing together a diy system. there are plenty of reasons why it might be better to go the diy route as well. to each his own. there is no one simple solution which is suitable for a plethora of different circumstances, and we shouldn't presume to know the specifics of everyone's use case and abilities.
i just find it's not quite as simple and cut and dried as the diy folks would have us believe. i for one, will not buy one of those noisy all-in-one inverters, with high idle consumption. these delta pro ultras are extremely quiet, which is one of its chief advantages.
the eg4 lacks one key feature, for those who already have an ecoflow delta pro ultra inverter. (the only people who would be interested in this deal).
that is....a way to charge it back up! your eg4 battery does not come with a charger built-in, now does it? and, how exactly do you intend to run the inverter off the external eg4 battery? by feeding it into the pv input of the ecoflow, simulating solar? then you have to sacrifice at least one solar input. and the ecoflow will not calculate your solar intake correctly, because it is receiving simulated solar from the battery.
this ecoflow battery is fully integrated with the matching inverter, and can be charged via ac or solar via the unit. how am i gonna do that with your "better value" eg4 battery? furthermore, since it connects to the dpu not via the solar input, you can charge and discharge the battery without sacrificing any solar input, and you can track your solar intake data properly.
also, this battery sits neatly below the inverter, which stacks on top of it. if you can't figure out why some folks would want this battery, which matches and integrates with their delta pro ultra inverter seamlessly, then i can't help you.
Most dont have all the ecoflow stuff, most just want batteries or power storage solutions that incorporate lower cost whole home power solutions that offer grid tied monitoring. Yes you would need an inverter, which the vast majority of people shopping for batteries already have. For whole home power and battery storage, ecoflow is a laughable over priced solution that zero contractors in the region use or install.
In summery, yes, if you have ecoflow and a very small and niche energy situation, this will work best. If you want something to add to an existing system thats outside of the ecoflow space, this is not it.
Cant be outside, doesn't self heat, has weak connections, and is a proprietary design.
Sorry you got so invested in ecoflow, should have reached out to me or one of my many vendors of solar solutions for a quote, we could have gotten you more power coming in, more power storage, and more power going out and ensure your financially benefiting from the system.
I remember installing 30kwh systems for nearly 30,000 bucks. That was in 2015. Now we can get a server rack 30kwh setup for 9k. Most of the time we avoid even installing the batteries unless we run out of space on-site. Panels are so cheap we oversize the systems so much we make 3x the 24 hour power need in the daylight and use solar credits at sundown.
I have a dual inverter, 48 panel, articulating ground mount, 30kWh battery, setup going in right now and its 28K. 10 years ago that would have been well over 60.
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$1600 new battery + $1800 refurbished inverter = $3400
vs
$3400 both refurbished (ebay).
I wonder if this is eligible for the 30% tax credit
proprietary design, blah, blah, blah. you can plug in whatever sort of solar panels you want to it, even smaller ones to start out with. many aio's require a minimum of 120 volts or more just to get the solar going. you only need 80 with the ecoflow dpu for the high pv input.
once you have at least one ef battery paired with the inverter, you don't have to buy any more. you can add whatever cheap storage you want to it, if you're so inclined. you can buy a cheap 12v 100 ah battery for extra capacity, or you can buy any sort of server rack battery, or the 14.3 kwh wall mount eg4 battery someone mentioned earlier. all of that can feed the ecoflow if you want.
what about the fella who suggested eg4 was a better value. is he so heavily invested in ecoflow too? stop making assumptions and presuming to know what's best for everyone. if you don't like ecoflow, i don't care.
so, what are you doing here then?
then you have take into account the extra cost of wires, cables, lugs, crimpers, heat shrink, fuses, busbars, shunts, etc. all of it adds up to the total cost of installation.
what about those who don't own their own home, but are renters, and can't go around punching holes in the wall and modifying their main breaker panel, etc.
also, some of these diy setups are not necessarily to code, are considered a permanent install, and need to be permitted and inspected, while a power station like this is considered portable and not permanent, so one can get away with using one of these a lot easier without a permit or inspection.
there are many reasons why someone would want one of these, over piecing together a diy system. there are plenty of reasons why it might be better to go the diy route as well. to each his own. there is no one simple solution which is suitable for a plethora of different circumstances, and we shouldn't presume to know the specifics of everyone's use case and abilities.
i just find it's not quite as simple and cut and dried as the diy folks would have us believe. i for one, will not buy one of those noisy all-in-one inverters, with high idle consumption. these delta pro ultras are extremely quiet, which is one of its chief advantages.
Whole home really is not one of them, because when used that way almost any benefits become null.
Its portable? Nobody ever takes an Ultra around from place to place. If you mean when you move residence both DIY and Delta are equal.
If you mean the panel installed on the wall cant come with you, well neither is your SHP2 that 99% of all Ultra users have because that is pretty much NEEDED to be a whole home solution, and in that case it is much more limited than DIY.
You will still need permits, you will still need an electrician.
You have to buy all of this highly priced unit and then spend extra for things like the panel, and once you do, you have a system more limited than DIY.
Self consumption? The ultra uses almost 750Wh a day with zero load just from the (1) inverter being on.
I have not seen a good DIY with even HALF that vampire drain.
The ultra is quiet, and so is the Pro 3 that I had, and the Delta 3 Plus I use now.
So is my DIY system, again not the cheap garbage crap or stuff from 5 years ago, anything modern and within the same tier is going to be equal and better.
But most people have a power room, not power in the room so it makes sense that sound is not the priority, function is.
If your that into DIY, learning to DIY fans is one of the things I learned as a teenager building computers
As a renter you cant tear the place up usually, but again why would I be getting whole home Ultra level equipment if not to use it for my home, and to use it for the home requires some form of install.
Any DIY setup used in the same capacity as the Delta will be subject to the same restrictions when it comes to code/permit/etc.
But to be honst I am not arguing with you or trying to pursuade anyone. I don't even know why you replied to me with the soap box speach because I clearly wasn't and I stated very clearly "IMO" meaning In My Opinion, as to wich you cant debate anything that has to do with my opinion.
I am not biased as I own both setups, and because I own both I can very clearly see the limitations of the Delta, things people love to hide or not talk about.
Go browse the forums, facebook groups, and reddit and you will find tons of problems and unhappy owners.
Go to the DIY groups, not so much...
Whole home really is not one of them, because when used that way almost any benefits become null.
it's the fanatics who want to insist that diy is always better, and won't even acknowledge that in certain circumstances or use cases, it might be preferable to just go with the ecoflow, that are the problem. they are clearly puffed up and proud of their skills and diy know-how, and look down on others who either don't have the time, or the ability, to install a diy setup.
diy can certainly be cheaper, but also a lot more time consuming, and you know the saying: time is money. some people value their time, and would rather pay more to have more of a turn-key solution, than spend hours learning how to build a diy system.
Go to the DIY groups, not so much...
perhaps the reason why people don't complain so much when they do diy, is because they like the challenge of doing something themselves, so they are willing to devote a lot of time and effort to troubleshooting and fiddling, and getting their system to operate properly. i read plenty of diy forums, and plenty of folks encounter all sorts of issues and problems with their builds, quite frequently. but they are passionate about their hobby, so they don't care, and they just devote more and more time to their build. that's fine by me.
some people have more time, and some people have more money and less time. let the people with more time do their diy, and let the people with more money do this delta pro ultra, or a tesla powerwall, or ep cube, or whatever floats their boat.
it's nice that we have choices, and we are not all *forced* to do diy if we don't want to, but for those who are so inclined, it's nice that they can save some money and take satisfaction in doing something themselves.
this is a thread about ecoflow products, not diy. if you think ecoflow products are such a waste of money and so limited in their capabilities, then what are you doing here??? why are you not spending your time on the diy forum, where you belong???
ecoflow customers do not need hecklers coming into their thread and telling them how foolish they are for overpaying and not building their own diy system for cheaper.
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why are you presuming to speak for everyone, as if you know everyone's needs? many people do not have an existing system, but are only exploring backup or energy savings for the first time. did that ever occur to you? what are you even doing in this thread if you think ecoflow is such a joke?
doesn't need to be outside, because the dpu is *quiet*, unlike much of the diy aio inverters out there. if i bought some of the eg4 stuff, i would need to put it outside in the cold, so i wouldn't have to listen to the hair dryer-like screaming fans all the time.
proprietary design, blah, blah, blah. you can plug in whatever sort of solar panels you want to it, even smaller ones to start out with. many aio's require a minimum of 120 volts or more just to get the solar going. you only need 80 with the ecoflow dpu for the high pv input.
once you have at least one ef battery paired with the inverter, you don't have to buy any more. you can add whatever cheap storage you want to it, if you're so inclined. you can buy a cheap 12v 100 ah battery for extra capacity, or you can buy any sort of server rack battery, or the 14.3 kwh wall mount eg4 battery someone mentioned earlier. all of that can feed the ecoflow if you want.
you are such a presumptuous prick, that i wouldn't want to deal with you or your company for a solar system. i don't need your help anyhow, i can do diy, or a combination of diy + ecoflow if i want. you apparently aren't invested in the ecoflow system, and yet you are here pushing your viewpoint, so aren't you proof that some of the folks on this thread (like you) are not substantially invested in ecoflow? so why do you make assumptions that folks like me are so invested in ecoflow, when you're here and apparently are not invested?
what about the fella who suggested eg4 was a better value. is he so heavily invested in ecoflow too? stop making assumptions and presuming to know what's best for everyone. if you don't like ecoflow, i don't care.
so, what are you doing here then?
Please explain in a way that's not dangerous, against building/electrical code, and homeowner friendly to install this interconnected to a home. I'm dying to hear this. (That's assuming people want to use this to power a house and not a single device)
You don't have or own any EG4 stuff and have no clue. What I mentioned is a battery doesn't make any noise. These greatly discounted are still more expensive than other options at MSRP.
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