popular Posted by AJ619 • May 16, 2025
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popular Posted by AJ619 • May 16, 2025
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T-Mobile Business Unlimited Select - BYOD - 10 lines for $100
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You can add new lines, but as I said two pages ago, you can't swap.
Any lines you port out or cancel 90 days prior to adding new lines will likely cause the system to error out.
This prevents port churn, where you port the number out and add it back again with the promo.
I could be wrong, but if I had to make a guess I think this is specifically about people calling certain, let's call them "special", US phone numbers that offer 'chat' or 'conference' services. I'm actually kind of surprised this is still a thing, and it might be some outdated reference, but I know for a fact that, back in the day, there were regular US phone numbers that offered these free conference calling services that ended up making money off of high per minute surcharges that they would get from the outgoing caller's phone provider. Basically, it had to do with how phone companies bill each other. If you place a call from Telco A to a phone number owned by Telco B, Telco A had to pay a carriage fee to Telco B for that call. And vice versa. This was more noticeable back before "free unlimited nationwide calling" was everywhere, but still exists behind the scenes. It's usually very small amounts and often is a wash between two high volume carriers with fairly balanced caller vs callee distributions. BUT, the rates the phone company could charge varied a lot and were dependent on certain regulated factors. Small phone companies in very remote areas could charge a lot more than say Bell Atlantic in New Jersey (I'm probably dating myself here a bit).
Anyway, companies realized that this per-minute destination fee could add up to a LOT over time and they could make a boat load of money by just getting people to call into their network. But that would require a lot of inbound calls. Of course these were generally in small towns in places like Utah (801 area code was a common one of these things), and not many people would normally call there. So, what could they do? They setup 'free' conference bridges. You could call some number and talk to other people using one of these services. And they made enough money to not only pay for the conference calling infrastructure and overhead, but turn a tidy profit as well. It was 'free' for the caller, outside of long distance fees back when that was a thing, so people would use them a lot. And while phone companies would charge a flat fee per minute, or not if you had unlimited calling, they would pay a LOT more to place calls to these numbers. When it was just Bob calling Aunt Marie to wish her a happy birthday, it wasn't that big of a deal. But when you had thousands and thousands of people calling into these services for hours at a time, it added up quick.
So a lot of these big phone companies realized that this was costing them way too much money, was basically being exploited by a loophole, and not something they wanted to keep covering the costs of, so they created these exception clauses. So if you happen to call one of these numbers that would cost them say $0.10/minute, they would charge that to you instead of eating it themselves. Hence the weird exception for calls not "direct communication between 2 people" getting put into service contracts. Again, I don't even know if this is still a thing anymore with the advent of free calls across the board and I'd be willing to bet its more of a legacy T&C that they just keep in place in case it ever becomes an issue again.
Fun fact: like 20 years ago, a buddy of mine figured out an arbitrage situation where he could buy minutes in bulk from AT&T and setup one of these BS tiny phone companies in bumf**k nowhere. He would pay like $0.03/min and make $0.05/min, netting a profit of $0.02/min (or something like that, I forget the specifics, but you get the point). He automated the whole thing so it just burned through minutes and he started making like $10k+ a month for a while. A computer would place multiple calls to his numbers, another computer would answer and just sit there using up minutes. Until AT&T caught on and stopped paying him. I think he ended up suing but I'm not sure what happened.
Anyway, now you know one more useless fact. Enjoy.
It's called Traffic Pumping. It mostly died with VoIP taking off and Zoom, etc.
Technically still a thing, but the FCC rules have effectively nulled it. Very few people even have landlines to trigger it, since cellular largely bypasses with eased LD carrier switching rates and agreements (facilitated by, you guessed it, VoIP).
https://www.fcc.gov/general/traffic-pumping
45*36 =1,620 - 1,600
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He was forced out, and wanted to stay. I can't say all I know without getting sued... But he didn't want to leave.
SoftBank offered him a job and DT used it as a means of forcing him out - despite SB doing it unilaterally.
There are no promos that stack with this plan. BYOD only, no finance, no additional discounts.
It's $10. This is why.
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You can switch, but you would lose all your current active promotions and if you have phone promotions they become due. Switching is like creating a brand new account.
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