forum thread Posted by supermanrob • 4d ago
Jun 23, 2025 2:35 PM
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forum thread Posted by supermanrob • 4d ago
Jun 23, 2025 2:35 PM
Pioneer ELITE VSX LX805 11.4 Channel AV Receiver Black VSX-LX805 - OPEN BOX - Best Buy - $1838
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If you haven't, might check in store Best Buy(s) near you.
As reported they are closing some of their Magnolia section.
Clearing out products, people reported seeing/getting the 3800 for $679 and the Cinema 50 for $1050.
No luck here I would have grabbed the 50 for that price to replace my 3800!
What license are you talking about?
Stay away because of this supposedly license issue?
Additionally, there was a Dirac bass control bug that was fixed with this LX805 the RZ70 and Integra 8.4
I personally own the Pioneer LX805...if I recall correctly I paid about $1450 late last year
This unit handle all but the heaviest speaker loads at reference volumes and not break a sweat
Outstanding one box solution if you dont have the desire to go with separates.
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It depends on what features are important to you.
Assuming you have no brand preference & they are both OB/refurb.
There are a few features that stand out.
This powers all 11 channels internally & has 25 watts more per channel.
The 40 needs external power to do it, you can assign channels & has preamp mode.
This includes Dirac Live Full Bandwidth RC, the 40 has purchase access and also has access to A1EVO.
If Dirac is important, the 40 will have access to Dirac's latest RC(ART) very soon.
I would point out, for an extra $80 to the $400 difference would add DL & DLBC to the 40 right now(until the 30th).
The 40 has 4 independent sub outs, this has 4 but 2 run parallel/mono.
This has balanced outs for L/R fronts & two subs.
Here is a comparison: https://www.zkelectroni
I own the unit in this thread
I am also demoing the Cinema 40 right now on my home
This unit is closer to the Cinema 30… which I also own… in performance
I would say there is substantial power difference. These units actually outperform their posted power ratings
If you are not planning on using external amplification my choice would be pioneer all day
If planning on using external amplification and paying for all the Dirac licenses is something you plan on doing this has the advantage is Dirac ART availability
This is assuming Dirac ART adds a meaningful difference . I do not own a Storm Audio product so I can't comment on what Dirac ART adds in my personal ownership evaluation
I am also demoing the Cinema 40 right now on my home
This unit is closer to the Cinema 30… which I also own… in performance
I would say there is substantial power difference. These units actually outperform their posted power ratings
If you are not planning on using external amplification my choice would be pioneer all day
If planning on using external amplification and paying for all the Dirac licenses is something you plan on doing this has the advantage is Dirac ART availability
This is assuming Dirac ART adds a meaningful difference . I do not own a Storm Audio product so I can't comment on what Dirac ART adds in my personal ownership evaluation
Within in that "all" licenses, Dirac's subwoofer/bass license is a paid option for everyone, including this.
If you use any subwoofers in your system, Dirac's RC(DLBC) is one of the best in my experience.
As a matter of fact you will need DLBC to upgrade to ART for that very reason(per Dirac).
Here is Dirac's explanation of what ART offers:https://www.dirac.com/live/art-technology/
On a side note you said you own this(LX805),RZ70,Cinema 30,Cinema 40,RZ50.
Did you add DLBC to any of those, if so which ones?
Did it add any meaningful difference to the sonic performance?
FYI there is a 20% off sale going on right now for "all" Dirac licenses for Denon & Marantz products until June 30th.
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I am also demoing the Cinema 40 right now on my home
This unit is closer to the Cinema 30… which I also own… in performance
I would say there is substantial power difference. These units actually outperform their posted power ratings
If you are not planning on using external amplification my choice would be pioneer all day
If planning on using external amplification and paying for all the Dirac licenses is something you plan on doing this has the advantage is Dirac ART availability
This is assuming Dirac ART adds a meaningful difference . I do not own a Storm Audio product so I can't comment on what Dirac ART adds in my personal ownership evaluation
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