forum threadBeautifulFang681 posted Nov 29, 2025 04:50 AM
forum threadBeautifulFang681 posted Nov 29, 2025 04:50 AM
$1350- Denon AVR-X3800H 9.4-Ch 8K UHD AVR Home Theater Stereo Receiver,
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If you need something now, have no brand preference & don't need 11 channels.
The RZ30 for $750 is probably the better choice ime.
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This AVR needs to be sub $1000 IMO
And its been lower than this many times in both public sites and side deals with local retailers( per AVS forum members)
if I recall correctly..it was about $650 open box at the Best Buy/Magnolia clearance that was going on in selected stores a few months ago
If we only had a Time Machine!!!
You would have to be a village idiot to pass that up!!!
If we only had a Time Machine!!!
You would have to be a village idiot to pass that up!!!
The better resale alone would have more than equalized that when I got rid of it 2-4 years later
But I didnt keep the Denon X4800 either
For me the Pioneer LX805, that I owned at the time, was the better fit
Then I threw the Marantz Cinema 40 in that mix as well...which I didnt keep either
I think that was $1250-1300.
I cant recall exactly
Pretty well known the 4800 doesn't offer that much more than the 3800.
$650 and you have everything the 805 has and more!
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Pretty well known the 4800 doesn't offer that much more than the 3800.
$650 and you have everything the 805 has and more!
Do your own checking for the history if you care to validate that
Been there done that many times...
Despite what you think or the " pretty well known" people you mention
The market will pay more on the used marketplace for the made in Japan Denon/Marantz models
$650 would have not gotten me anywhere close to the amp /power supply capability of the LX805
Then there are the Dirac license charges
This was never going to run my main listening area so the odds are I would not keep it that long, relatively speaking
There's a return window of 60 days so if I find a lower price I will return this and buy at the lower price.
I'm not really sure if this model is even worth it for me because I'm using it to power two Q11 metas, a Q6 meta, and SB-3000. I'll likely never go beyond a 5.2 setup.
Not to mention these are 4ohm speakers..
What did you hear when you did the same?
I would argue that extra power supply is only a benefit if you need it.
If your surrounds and or Atmos speakers don't need 150 watts why pay for it.
I would rather spend it on head & shoulders Dirac licenses than power I don't need.
Then there is the 805 doesn't have access to the best Dirac license they have.... ART .... the 3800 does!!!
Let's not forget A1EVO, gives you pretty much all of Dirac Live & Dirac Live Bass Control for free!!!!
That's not just my opinion, pretty much well known over on AVS.
I'm pretty sure you can go over there and validate that very fact.
What did you hear when you did the same?
I would argue that extra power supply is only a benefit if you need it.
If your surrounds and or Atmos speakers don't need 150 watts why pay for it.
I would rather spend it on head & shoulders Dirac licenses than power I don't need.
Then there is the 805 doesn't have access to the best Dirac license they have.... ART .... the 3800 does!!!
Let's not forget A1EVO, gives you pretty much all of Dirac Live & Dirac Live Bass Control for free!!!!
That's not just my opinion, pretty much well known over on AVS.
I'm pretty sure you can go over there and validate that very fact.
I like the looks of it better than the X3800
if I kept it for a few years I know it was not going to be any higher cost of ownership due to the resale advantage of the X4800...So I chose it over the X3800 that was available at the same time
I understand your opinion about A1EVO
That opinion is not the same with many people on AVS...certainly you know that if you have read through enough of the calibration threads
I cant speak to DIRAC ART and what difference I think it makes...as I dont have it in my home
What I will say is that my Arcam AVR31 is a sonically superior unit to my Marantz Cinema 30...same speakers ..same media..same room and level matched
There are AVS forum guys that say that Denon/Marantz has stepped up their game on their higher end models versus the boutique brands in this last generation
Their pricing has gone up considerably since the days of my Marantz pre/pro ownership
But for me to switch out my main listening pre.pro I would need something at least the sonic equal , to my ears, of the Arcam AV41
The price for the Marantz AV10 ...with all the licenses I would need to buy....doesnt make sense to me . This is assuming a 20% off MSRP which I think is realistic
This is also assuming I would like it as well as the Arcam, in the first place, and that Dirac ART would make a big difference to my ears
Will it power the 3(not 5?) metas, yes.
Will in do it to your satisfaction, no one can answer that.
If you have no brand preference & Dirac was a high priority.
I would suggest the Onkyo RZ30.
It's on sale for $750 right now.
Less likely to needing an external amp and less expensive.
There's a return window of 60 days so if I find a lower price I will return this and buy at the lower price.
I'm not really sure if this model is even worth it for me because I'm using it to power two Q11 metas, a Q6 meta, and SB-3000. I'll likely never go beyond a 5.2 setup.
Not to mention these are 4ohm speakers..
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Putting that $300 to getting Dirac Live(equivalent to what the 805 includes) would be more beneficial imo.
Heck $640(right now) gets you all 3 which includes ART.
That's $650+$640=$1,290!!!
I can tell you from personal experience that will easily compete(if not surpass) with even your Arcam sonically & costing much less to boot!!!
I read about plenty of Arcam owners not to happy they have no access to ART!
Yes I have read forums on A1EVO.
Not much different than in here.
Most naysayers imagine the performance based on reading.
What was your opinion on A1EVO again?
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