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popularcvp33 posted Dec 24, 2025 04:19 AM

Automatic Divers Watch MVMT X Nigel Cabourn - $157

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**Usually not a fan of MVMT watches, but this one checks some boxes with automatic movement, exhibition caseback, ISO-certified, 120 click bezel and limited to 500 copies. Wish they would've gone sapphire with the crystal.

Limited edition MVMT x Nigel Cabourn divers watch. Inspired by vintage British military tactical clothing, this 1 of 500 ISO-certified watch pulls its colors and winter camouflage pattern from a rare 1960's SBS waterproof wool gabardine smock and covert mission canoe. Featuring a barley green 120-click unidirectional bezel, an olive and orange NATO nylon strap + interchangeable Admiralty Grey NATO nylon strap, and custom collaboration packaging.

SPECIFICATIONS:
  • Case MaterialStainless Steel
  • Case Size40
  • Case Thickness14MM
  • Interchangeable StrapYes
  • Movement TypeTmi Nh38a
  • Glass TypeK1 Hardened Mineral Crystal
  • Water Resistance20 ATM + Screw-Down Crown

https://www.mvmt.com/new-arrivals...00041.html
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$448 LIST
$224 SALE
$156.80 w/coupon code SUPER30

*FREE SHIPPING

**Usually not a fan of MVMT watches, but this one checks some boxes with automatic movement, exhibition caseback, ISO-certified, 120 click bezel and limited to 500 copies. Wish they would've gone sapphire with the crystal.

Limited edition MVMT x Nigel Cabourn divers watch. Inspired by vintage British military tactical clothing, this 1 of 500 ISO-certified watch pulls its colors and winter camouflage pattern from a rare 1960's SBS waterproof wool gabardine smock and covert mission canoe. Featuring a barley green 120-click unidirectional bezel, an olive and orange NATO nylon strap + interchangeable Admiralty Grey NATO nylon strap, and custom collaboration packaging.

SPECIFICATIONS:
  • Case MaterialStainless Steel
  • Case Size40
  • Case Thickness14MM
  • Interchangeable StrapYes
  • Movement TypeTmi Nh38a
  • Glass TypeK1 Hardened Mineral Crystal
  • Water Resistance20 ATM + Screw-Down Crown

https://www.mvmt.com/new-arrivals...00041.html

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Quote from InRainbows :
You can get solid pre-owned/vintage Seikos for under $500 though.
I know, I have several grails….all vintage though. Citizen bullheads, King Seikos - definitely worth it. New stuff though, try to stay well under $300.
Dec 24, 2025 06:25 PM
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warezdogDec 24, 2025 06:25 PM
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Quote from cuoreesitante :
This watch notwithstanding (I don't know anything about it), this company is mostly marketing and slapping overpriced price tags on watches assembled from bargain bin parts. You'd do much better with any Seiko or Citizen at the same price points.
100% this ^ it looks like another henrys watches deal which I almost fell for.
Dec 24, 2025 06:37 PM
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cuoreesitanteDec 24, 2025 06:37 PM
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Quote from cvp33 :
- All watches are marketed…..that's how they are sold

- Many, in fact most Seikos and Citizens are overpriced and built to a price

- I don't know of any limited edition Seiko or Citizens that are ISO-rated dive watches resistant to 20 bar.

- The Prospex line would be 20 bar rated, but not limited, numbered editions and would be north of $350……this watch is $150.

- This watch is running a Seiko automatic movement and comes with a 2 year warranty like many microbrands.

- Generally Seikos and Citizens are not mentioned when folks are looking for quality watches that punch above their weight.

Finally, 'you'd be better off' with any Zelos, Armida, Helson, Revelot, Helm, Baltic or San Martin before you buy a Seiko or Citizen if you're looking for watches that are limited, hold their value and punch far above their weight.
Quote from cvp33 :
Yes, I think he is. As a collector, when we hear people mention Seiko and Citizens as watches to buy, we gringe. There are collectible, high quality Seikos, no Citizens though and anyone looking at a $150 watch isn't thinking investor-grade. LOL

And Seikos under $500 are notorious for bad builds. Poorly aligned hands, bezels, chapter rings…..just hate when newbies give bad advice….
Oof, there's so much misinformation I can't fathom how it's coming from a "collector".
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Quote from Fade2White12 :
As a collector myself, my opinion is you have no idea what you're talking about. Only the most pretentious and close minded "collectors" would cringe at someone recommending Seiko/Citizen.
Over 500, all my Seikos and Citizens that I've collected are 40+ years old (bullheads, King Seikos, etc). Only a pretentious newb would make a blanket recommendation to go buy Seikos and Citizens.
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Quote from cuoreesitante :
Oof, there's so much misinformation I can't fathom how it's coming from a "collector".
I can't fathom how a real watch enthusiast wouldn't know about the ongoing quality issues with Seikos.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Seiko/co..._of_seiko/
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cuoreesitanteDec 24, 2025 07:00 PM
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Quote from cvp33 :
I can't fathom how a real watch enthusiast wouldn't know about the ongoing quality issues with Seikos.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Seiko/co..._of_seiko/
Ah yes, a dozen or so people complaining on reddit 3 years ago about a brand that sells something like 5 million watches a year is indicative of the brand's quality. Got it.

And somehow you think MVMT, of all brands out there, would be better quality??
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MunkynutssDec 24, 2025 07:14 PM
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Quote from cvp33 :
I can't fathom how a real watch enthusiast wouldn't know about the ongoing quality issues with Seikos.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Seiko/co..._of_seiko/
If you'd bothered to read through your own link, most of the dorks on reddit don't even have a problem/issues with Seiko's QC at the right price level. It's a mass-produced product sometimes made in countries where "good enough" is.

And I've had Seikos with bezel alignment issues. But every seiko I've ever owned punched way above it's weight. And all have functioned flawlessly for decades. From Grands all the way down to a sub-$200 beater.

I've never heard of this "brand", but from my brief reading, they're trash. Polishing turds for the uninformed/ignorant who fall for marketing without doing research. Essentially a "as seen on TV" level product.


All that to say buy a Seiko, Bulova, or Citizen for the same money. Don't buy this junk.

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Watch collectors love being called dorks.

AI Overview

Yes, Seiko is notorious for chapter ring misalignment and other QC issues, even on higher-priced models, frustrating many buyers who find it unacceptable for a brand of its size, leading to a "meme" status, but these watches are often repairable or replaceable under warranty, with fixes involving crystal removal and re-gluing the ring.

Common Issues
  • Misaligned Chapter Rings: The inner ring with minute/second markers doesn't line up with the dial's indices or bezel pip.
  • Misaligned Indices/Bezel: Hour markers or the bezel insert itself can also be off.
  • Loose Chapter Rings: Sometimes the ring wiggles due to its mounting notch.

Why It Happens
  • Mass Production: Seiko produces a massive volume of watches, and tolerances in the tiny notches for the chapter ring can lead to slight shifts.
  • Acceptable Tolerances: Some argue Seiko considers slight misalignment acceptable for tool watches, but it's still a significant complaint.

Solutions & Buyer Advice
  • Buy in Person: If possible, inspect the watch before buying, especially from grey market dealers, to ensure alignment.
  • Return/Exchange: If bought online and obviously misaligned, return it for a new one.
  • Warranty Repair: Get it fixed under warranty; Seiko should correct it, often by removing the crystal and re-gluing the ring.
  • DIY Fix: A watchmaker or experienced hobbyist can realign it by removing the crystal and securing the ring with adhesive, though it requires care.
  • Is it Still a Good Watch?

Many Seikos are durable, reliable, and have great movements (like the NH35).
The misalignment issue is a known flaw, but doesn't necessarily mean the entire watch is bad, just that you might need to check or fix that specific part.
Last edited by cvp33 December 24, 2025 at 12:33 PM.
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BASS4URFACEDec 24, 2025 10:54 PM
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Well, it looks cool to me. Probably tells time pretty well.
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Quote from Munkynutss :
If you'd bothered to read through your own link, most of the dorks on reddit don't even have a problem/issues with Seiko's QC at the right price level. It's a mass-produced product sometimes made in countries where "good enough" is.

And I've had Seikos with bezel alignment issues. But every seiko I've ever owned punched way above it's weight. And all have functioned flawlessly for decades. From Grands all the way down to a sub-$200 beater.

I've never heard of this "brand", but from my brief reading, they're trash. Polishing turds for the uninformed/ignorant who fall for marketing without doing research. Essentially a "as seen on TV" level product.


All that to say buy a Seiko, Bulova, or Citizen for the same money. Don't buy this junk.
The funniest part is Chinese homage brands like Pagani Design actually provide far better quality than Seiko does at lower price points (and they even use Seiko movements). But Seiko is at a low enough pricepoint (like Citizen, Bulova, and Tissot) where you are still able to get some heritage/history with the watch you buy so that also has to factor into the price.
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nunhgraderDec 25, 2025 09:09 PM
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I have collector watches (mostly bronze dive watches - all automatics) and I regularly wear my Zelos, Seikos, and a Citizen dive watch that looks quite ridiculous on me. I stay away from most fashion watches but, I do often purchase from some micro brands.
Dec 25, 2025 10:38 PM
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OliveGorilla1006Dec 25, 2025 10:38 PM
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Using a mineral crystal on a $157 watch from an obscure brand is difficult to justify. You can easily find watches with the same NH movement and a sapphire crystal for well under $157
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zechs77Yesterday 03:13 PM
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I bought two MVMT watches years ago and never use them. One died completely just sitting in a drawer and won't even turn on with a battery. I've also had poor customer service from MVMT they were very condescending and closed my case without discussing anything. Shame.
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