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Just a friendly note that ARC cards are not for everyone. They offer good price/performance but they have some downsides as well.
I picked up a B580 and have been testing it over the last few days.The results are interesting. On Windows, with mainstream modern games, it performs well overall. With older games, it is hit or miss. Many older games run perfectly but certainly not all. Some examples:
In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.
Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.
Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.
Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.
If you were considering an 8gb card, this is a cheaper upgrade.
However, the extra $40-100 for 12 or 16 is a sweet spot. I've had many apps want to reserve 8gb of vram.
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If you were considering an 8gb card, this is a cheaper upgrade.
However, the extra $40-100 for 12 or 16 is a sweet spot. I've had many apps want to reserve 8gb of vram.
If you were considering an 8gb card, this is a cheaper upgrade. However, the extra $40-100 for 12 or 16 is a sweet spot. I've had many apps want to reserve 8gb of vram.
This is accurate.
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Just a friendly note that ARC cards are not for everyone. They offer good price/performance but they have some downsides as well.
I picked up a B580 and have been testing it over the last few days.The results are interesting. On Windows, with mainstream modern games, it performs well overall. With older games, it is hit or miss. Many older games run perfectly but certainly not all. Some examples:
In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.
Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.
Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.
Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.
Good performance to price ratio, although not as tempting as bestbuy's 5060 deal at $250.
Indeed, lots of trade-offs to consider:
5060:
~25-40% better performance(Depending on whose numbers you review)
DLSS4 support
Supports more games and new game support comes more quickly
B570
$50 cheaper
2GB of additional VRAM
In most cases, the 5060@$250 will offer similar(or better) cost per frame than the B570@$200. The primary exception will be times when you exceed the 8GB VRAM window but also stay under 10 GB.
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If you were considering an 8gb card, this is a cheaper upgrade.
However, the extra $40-100 for 12 or 16 is a sweet spot. I've had many apps want to reserve 8gb of vram.
What 16GB card are you seeing for $300? The closest I've seen is that 9060 $330 open box BB deal and that is highly YMMV based on location. Or the Micro Center $350 but that is even less accessible for certain regions (such as mine)...but new though.
I'm personally not in the 'an 8GB card in 2026 will cause the sun to explode' camp so have been looking at 8GB and 16GB, of course would would rather a 16. Just not sure it is worth nearly double the money just to chase benchmarks or worry about FuTuRePrOoFiNg...which is a losing battle to begin with.
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Just a friendly note that ARC cards are not for everyone. They offer good price/performance but they have some downsides as well.
I picked up a B580 and have been testing it over the last few days.The results are interesting. On Windows, with mainstream modern games, it performs well overall. With older games, it is hit or miss. Many older games run perfectly but certainly not all. Some examples:
In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.
Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.
Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.
Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.
Excellent analysis.
Intel's B-series got significantly better on power management over the A-series, which was a major weakness. There are obviously better cards in the $250-300 price range, but this is solid at a $200 price point. Especially if you do a lot of video encoding/decoding/streaming as opposed to game play.
Resizeable BAR isn't necessary, but you are leaving 10-20% of the potential performance on the table without it.
Pure speculation, but any pre-DirectX 9 game (and equivalent OpenGL) is mostly being software emulated at the driver level. And it is hard to argue with that approach. 2 of the 3 games you mentioned are over 20 years old, which you cited. You could probably try Mesa3D for the games that don't work.
Just a friendly note that ARC cards are not for everyone. They offer good price/performance but they have some downsides as well.
I picked up a B580 and have been testing it over the last few days.The results are interesting. On Windows, with mainstream modern games, it performs well overall. With older games, it is hit or miss. Many older games run perfectly but certainly not all. Some examples:
In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.
Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.
Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.
Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.
They're also great cards to pair with Lossless Scaling if your primary card struggles with 1440P or higher.
It's going to be a long while before DLSS capable cards become affordable again, so I would not be surprised if a lot of users hang onto their 5060 or 4070 well into the era where 1080P is the most they can handle.
Excellent analysis.
Intel's B-series got significantly better on power management over the A-series, which was a major weakness. There are obviously better cards in the $250-300 price range, but this is solid at a $200 price point. Especially if you do a lot of video encoding/decoding/streaming as opposed to game play.
Resizeable BAR isn't necessary, but you are leaving 10-20% of the potential performance on the table without it.
Pure speculation, but any pre-DirectX 9 game (and equivalent OpenGL) is mostly being software emulated at the driver level. And it is hard to argue with that approach. 2 of the 3 games you mentioned are over 20 years old, which you cited. You could probably try Mesa3D for the games that don't work.
Arc cards only natively support Vulkan and DX12. Anything other than that is handled with wrappers. For lower versions of DirectX I believe they are using DXVK.
Just a friendly note that ARC cards are not for everyone. They offer good price/performance but they have some downsides as well.I picked up a B580 and have been testing it over the last few days.The results are interesting. On Windows, with mainstream modern games, it performs well overall. With older games, it is hit or miss. Many older games run perfectly but certainly not all. Some examples:
In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.
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I picked up a B580 and have been testing it over the last few days.The results are interesting. On Windows, with mainstream modern games, it performs well overall. With older games, it is hit or miss. Many older games run perfectly but certainly not all. Some examples:
In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.
Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.
Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.
Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.
However, the extra $40-100 for 12 or 16 is a sweet spot. I've had many apps want to reserve 8gb of vram.
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However, the extra $40-100 for 12 or 16 is a sweet spot. I've had many apps want to reserve 8gb of vram.
their cpu situation isn't so bright.
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Nothing touches this... New..., BUT make sure that your PC has REBAR and ABOVE 4G DECODING enabled in your bios...
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I picked up a B580 and have been testing it over the last few days.The results are interesting. On Windows, with mainstream modern games, it performs well overall. With older games, it is hit or miss. Many older games run perfectly but certainly not all. Some examples:
- In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
- In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
- Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.
Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.
Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.
5060:
- ~25-40% better performance(Depending on whose numbers you review)
- DLSS4 support
- Supports more games and new game support comes more quickly
B570- $50 cheaper
- 2GB of additional VRAM
In most cases, the 5060@$250 will offer similar(or better) cost per frame than the B570@$200. The primary exception will be times when you exceed the 8GB VRAM window but also stay under 10 GB.Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.
However, the extra $40-100 for 12 or 16 is a sweet spot. I've had many apps want to reserve 8gb of vram.
I'm personally not in the 'an 8GB card in 2026 will cause the sun to explode' camp so have been looking at 8GB and 16GB, of course would would rather a 16. Just not sure it is worth nearly double the money just to chase benchmarks or worry about FuTuRePrOoFiNg...which is a losing battle to begin with.
I picked up a B580 and have been testing it over the last few days.The results are interesting. On Windows, with mainstream modern games, it performs well overall. With older games, it is hit or miss. Many older games run perfectly but certainly not all. Some examples:
- In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
- In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
- Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.
Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.
Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.
Intel's B-series got significantly better on power management over the A-series, which was a major weakness. There are obviously better cards in the $250-300 price range, but this is solid at a $200 price point. Especially if you do a lot of video encoding/decoding/streaming as opposed to game play.
Resizeable BAR isn't necessary, but you are leaving 10-20% of the potential performance on the table without it.
Pure speculation, but any pre-DirectX 9 game (and equivalent OpenGL) is mostly being software emulated at the driver level. And it is hard to argue with that approach. 2 of the 3 games you mentioned are over 20 years old, which you cited. You could probably try Mesa3D for the games that don't work.
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I picked up a B580 and have been testing it over the last few days.The results are interesting. On Windows, with mainstream modern games, it performs well overall. With older games, it is hit or miss. Many older games run perfectly but certainly not all. Some examples:
- In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
- In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
- Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.
Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.
Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.
It's going to be a long while before DLSS capable cards become affordable again, so I would not be surprised if a lot of users hang onto their 5060 or 4070 well into the era where 1080P is the most they can handle.
Intel's B-series got significantly better on power management over the A-series, which was a major weakness. There are obviously better cards in the $250-300 price range, but this is solid at a $200 price point. Especially if you do a lot of video encoding/decoding/streaming as opposed to game play.
Resizeable BAR isn't necessary, but you are leaving 10-20% of the potential performance on the table without it.
Pure speculation, but any pre-DirectX 9 game (and equivalent OpenGL) is mostly being software emulated at the driver level. And it is hard to argue with that approach. 2 of the 3 games you mentioned are over 20 years old, which you cited. You could probably try Mesa3D for the games that don't work.
- In Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic 2(2005), some of the UI elements don't render
- In Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag(2013), enabling MSAA causes improper display and application crashes
- Return to Castle Wolfenstein(2001) simply didn't launch
I only tested 15 games, so finding 3 with issues is material in my opinion. That being said, a lot of people aren't playing games from 20 years ago so this might not matter to you. Also, some of these issues can probably be worked around. For example, in AC: Black Flag, you could simply not enable MSAA. Likewise, for RTCW there is an alternative engine.Additionally, this probably won't matter to most people, on Linux, my results are much more dire. Performance is mostly bad and many modern games have major compatibility issues. It is bad enough that I am wondering if I am doing something wrong there.Lastly, be aware you must have a motherboard/CPU combination that supports enabling resizable BAR when using ARC cards. Also, it is an x8 card so make sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 and preferably 4.0.Overall, I still think it is worth buying as long as you don't primarily play older games and you have the right motherboard to support it.Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.
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