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does any one else on SD watch this show. i have watched each episode and i'm hooked its a mystery going on in each episode and makes it worth wild to watch .


EDIT April 12 2007- you can watch LOST on abc.com (streaming) also but its just one day after.

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

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02-17-2010 at 11:28 AM.
02-17-2010 at 11:28 AM.
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So somehow Locke hooking up with Ms Bundy means she doesn't get a brain aneurysm?
I can think of 3 possible explanations to that:

1. The "reset" timeline appears to have affected the lives of people who haven't visited the island as well. For example, the woman who was the psychic that Hurley and his dad visited in the original timeline, works at the temp agency that Hurley bought in the reset timeline. Maybe Helen's life was directly affected somehow as well?

2. Staying with Locke exposed her to different environmental factors that made her less likely to have the aneurysm. Maybe in the original timeline, she went into some sort of self-destructive cycle (remember, Locke DID meet her in group therapy) that led to the aneurysm?

3. We don't know for sure that Helen ever died in the first place. Matthew Abaddon seemed to take his time trying to find her, maybe he was arranging to have a fake tombstone planted to show Locke? After all, if Locke found her, he may very well have lost his motivation to return to the island (or convince anyone else to do the same).

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I dont get why they only showed Hurley, Sawyer, Shepard, and the Kwans as "canidates"
None of us do. That's why you have to keep watching the show Smilie
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02-17-2010 at 12:35 PM.
02-17-2010 at 12:35 PM.
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02-17-2010 at 02:20 PM.
02-17-2010 at 02:20 PM.
Quote from Putts :
I can think of 3 possible explanations to that:

1. The "reset" timeline appears to have affected the lives of people who haven't visited the island as well. For example, the woman who was the psychic that Hurley and his dad visited in the original timeline, works at the temp agency that Hurley bought in the reset timeline. Maybe Helen's life was directly affected somehow as well?

2. Staying with Locke exposed her to different environmental factors that made her less likely to have the aneurysm. Maybe in the original timeline, she went into some sort of self-destructive cycle (remember, Locke DID meet her in group therapy) that led to the aneurysm?

3. We don't know for sure that Helen ever died in the first place. Matthew Abaddon seemed to take his time trying to find her, maybe he was arranging to have a fake tombstone planted to show Locke? After all, if Locke found her, he may very well have lost his motivation to return to the island (or convince anyone else to do the same).
Crap, somebody reminded me its 2004 in the parallel univers and Helen didn't die until 2006.
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02-17-2010 at 02:57 PM.
02-17-2010 at 02:57 PM.
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02-17-2010 at 07:22 PM.
02-17-2010 at 07:22 PM.
Quote from ASG :
So somehow Locke hooking up with Ms Bundy means she doesn't get a brain aneurysm?
Thats the worst change. LOCKE is paaralyzed but seems to be in good standing with his father. QUE?!?!
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02-18-2010 at 07:43 PM.
02-18-2010 at 07:43 PM.
Last night's was a slow episode, but it answered the question about why those people are on the island. Pretty interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing the party at the temple and seeing Jin and Sun reunite. I'm also looking forward to MIB (impostor Locke) vs. Claire confrontation b/c that's what I think will occur.

That was funny of Hugo to offer Locke his job back after he assaulted his car. laugh out loud

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You can't rank what is more or less stressful for another person, it's subjective. In fact, I'm not even sure that you can rank potential stressful situations for yourself if you've never experienced them. For all you know, you wouldn't be stressed out at all during an emergency like the plane crash, maybe you'd be calm, collected, and heroic. Or maybe you'd go into psychological shock and not even really know what's going on.
Yes, you're right that I've never been in either situation, so I can't say for sure which is more stressful, but I'm just predicting on what I'd think would be more stressful..
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02-21-2010 at 07:29 PM.
02-21-2010 at 07:29 PM.
Okay 1st...what was on Helen's shirt ''----- & Karma''?
2nd - what was the inside joke about the white/black rocks on the scale?
3rd how was the ??? of why they are on the island answered just because the names were on the wall they were canidates? but the manipulation of Jacob?
4th someone said MIB was recruiting, por que?
5th Richard? I dont even know where to start.
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02-21-2010 at 07:37 PM.
02-21-2010 at 07:37 PM.
Quote from Dazzledby5 :
Okay 1st...what was on Helen's shirt ''----- & Karma''?
2nd - what was the inside joke about the white/black rocks on the scale?
3rd how was the ??? of why they are on the island answered just because the names were on the wall they were canidates? but the manipulation of Jacob?
4th someone said MIB was recruiting, por que?
5th Richard? I dont even know where to start.
2nd - Smokey was the black rock and Jacob was the white rock, Jacob was killed so white rock is taken off. Since Sawyer doesn't know about Jacob, Smokey calls it an inside joke. That's the only thing I can think off. The whole show is an inside joke to me.

3rd - Didn't Locke/Smokey say that Jacob was looking for his (Jacob's) successor? So they were on the Island because Jacob chose them specifically.

5th - I think Richard was looking for candidates for Jacob's successor. remember the episode where he tested child Locke to see if he was qualified or whatever. Basically Richard is Jacob's bitch, that's what I gather.
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02-21-2010 at 09:31 PM.
02-21-2010 at 09:31 PM.
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2nd - Smokey was the black rock and Jacob was the white rock, Jacob was killed so white rock is taken off. Since Sawyer doesn't know about Jacob, Smokey calls it an inside joke. That's the only thing I can think off. The whole show is an inside joke to me.

3rd - Didn't Locke/Smokey say that Jacob was looking for his (Jacob's) successor? So they were on the Island because Jacob chose them specifically.

5th - I think Richard was looking for candidates for Jacob's successor. remember the episode where he tested child Locke to see if he was qualified or whatever. Basically Richard is Jacob's bitch, that's what I gather.
3rd - Okay but why Jack? Hes a non beliver in the island right?
& 5th yeah, funny have we decided who MIB and Jacob are yet & why Richard would be so scurrred of MIB

Honestly I am more confused and pissed off about it now than ever before. I soooo have just as many NEW questions piling on top of all the old ones!

I would really like it if "the answer" is so simple and laid out perfect & we all go Facepalm
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02-22-2010 at 05:30 AM.
02-22-2010 at 05:30 AM.
yay....repeat last night was the one where Neil gets "fire"
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02-22-2010 at 06:04 AM.
02-22-2010 at 06:04 AM.
Quote from Dazzledby5 :
Okay 1st...what was on Helen's shirt ''----- & Karma''?
2nd - what was the inside joke about the white/black rocks on the scale?
3rd how was the ??? of why they are on the island answered just because the names were on the wall they were canidates? but the manipulation of Jacob?
4th someone said MIB was recruiting, por que?
5th Richard? I dont even know where to start.
1.) Helen/Peg Bundy is apparently a hippie.
2.) Jacob is represented by the white rock and MIB by the black rock. Now that Jacob's dead, so is that white rock.
3.) Well, we know how the names are on the rock (Jacob wrote them), but we still don't know why Jacob recruited those candidates.
4.) I thought it was Jacob who was the island's recruiter, before Ben killed him.
5.) I know we'll eventually find out why Richard doesn't age. And maybe also his actual age! EEK!
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02-22-2010 at 06:50 AM.
02-22-2010 at 06:50 AM.
Quote from beowulf7 :
1.) Helen/Peg Bundy is apparently a hippie.
2.) Jacob is represented by the white rock and MIB by the black rock. Now that Jacob's dead, so is that white rock.
3.) Well, we know how the names are on the rock (Jacob wrote them), but we still don't know why Jacob recruited those candidates.
4.) I thought it was Jacob who was the island's recruiter, before Ben killed him.
5.) I know we'll eventually find out why Richard doesn't age. And maybe also his actual age! EEK!
I think the scale may have more to do with that than the simple explanation that you offer. Maybe it represents the balance of power or something like that.

We don't know that Jacob wrote anything. We know that Richard thinks Locke/Smokey is trying to manipulate people. It's entirely plausible that what Locke showed Sawyer was all done by himself. He certainly knows how to navigate those rickety ladders pretty well.

I think Jacob is the recruiter as well. Richard seemed to be recruiting candidates for leader of "The Others", and only really went to Locke as a child because future Locke visited him in the past, not because he was actively recruiting.
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02-22-2010 at 10:43 AM.
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Quote from shhaggy :
I think the scale may have more to do with that than the simple explanation that you offer. Maybe it represents the balance of power or something like that.

We don't know that Jacob wrote anything. We know that Richard thinks Locke/Smokey is trying to manipulate people. It's entirely plausible that what Locke showed Sawyer was all done by himself. He certainly knows how to navigate those rickety ladders pretty well.

I think Jacob is the recruiter as well. Richard seemed to be recruiting candidates for leader of "The Others", and only really went to Locke as a child because future Locke visited him in the past, not because he was actively recruiting.
Well, the fact that the guy is black when he's smoke or when he was himself indicates that he's some kind of evil guy. Well, at least you'd think so, but maybe ABC is misleading us w/ those stereotypical color associations (where white is good and black is evil).

I know we'll eventually find out, but I'd dying to know who that kid is and why MIB/fake Locke was so surprised when he realized that Sawyer saw him, too.

What happened to that tall, skinny black guy that Richard hung out w/ a few seasons ago and visited (the real) Locke back on the mainland?
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02-22-2010 at 10:55 AM.
02-22-2010 at 10:55 AM.
Quote from shhaggy :
I think the scale may have more to do with that than the simple explanation that you offer. Maybe it represents the balance of power or something like that.

We don't know that Jacob wrote anything. We know that Richard thinks Locke/Smokey is trying to manipulate people. It's entirely plausible that what Locke showed Sawyer was all done by himself. He certainly knows how to navigate those rickety ladders pretty well.

I think Jacob is the recruiter as well. Richard seemed to be recruiting candidates for leader of "The Others", and only really went to Locke as a child because future Locke visited him in the past, not because he was actively recruiting.
I had to read that like 5 times to understand.

Yea scale represents some balance of power/good/evil/ying/yang thing. I am still not judging smokey to be the evil one or whatever, it could be Jacob for all we know. It would make sense that Jacob wrote it because he wanted them to go back no? Didn't he meet with the Oceanic Six in the main land last season?
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02-22-2010 at 11:10 AM.
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I had to read that like 5 times to understand.

Yea scale represents some balance of power/good/evil/ying/yang thing. I am still not judging smokey to be the evil one or whatever, it could be Jacob for all we know. It would make sense that Jacob wrote it because he wanted them to go back no? Didn't he meet with the Oceanic Six in the main land last season?
Yes but that doesn't mean that he wrote all of that and crossed some of them out, nor does it even mean that what MIB said he was doing is accurate. For all we know this is HIS little lair, not Jacob's, who was seemingly living under the foot.

It does seem that Jacob has always been the one that wanted to bring people here and MIB didn't though, so I could be wrong. It's just not established yet is all.
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