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My friend lives in NJ. His car was stolen, stripped, and abandoned. The city is making him pay for the towing and impound fees.

26,675 2,340 September 3, 2010 at 06:15 AM in Rant
Does that seem right to anyone else? It's basically costing him over $350 to have his car stolen and, since he didn't have theft insurance, it's a total loss. The only possible redemption is going to be today if a mechanic offers him any money for the scrap.

WTF?

I'm not even going into how rude the city employees were to him or how they turned him away yesterday afternoon because they didn't think he could get a tow truck (at his own expense) to the impound lot before they closed at 4:45. OR how they wouldn't help his wife when she was there at noon, because they were all at lunch.

Please reserve any comments about him being dumb for not carrying a theft clause or whatever you call it on his insurance policy. It was an older Honda Civic and he didn't think it was worth insuring for very much. I'm not sure how all of that works but his deductible might even have been more than what he would've gotten for the car, if that applies.

I think it's infuriating that the city is forcing him to pay towing and impound fees when his car was stolen! Does he have any recourse here? Maybe he can deduct the cost of the fees from his taxes or something? Who should he contact?

My friend is a really nice guy--I would've raged out on those impound lot employees for sure. My buddy said he knows when he's defeated and he's licking his wounds and counting his losses, and that his anger is reserved for the car thieves. I understand that, but really, it looks to me like the city's just adding insult to injury here.

Anyone have any experience with this?

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R1Budha
09-03-2010 at 10:05 AM.
09-03-2010 at 10:05 AM.
it's NJ.
enough said.
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09-03-2010 at 10:09 AM.
09-03-2010 at 10:09 AM.
Quote from R1Budha :
it's NJ.
enough said.
agree! redsux and patriots should move there. fits their personalty.
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emelvee
09-03-2010 at 10:23 AM.
09-03-2010 at 10:23 AM.
Why should the taxpayers in that city in NJ have to pay to remove your friend's car?

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jj.12321
09-03-2010 at 11:13 AM.
09-03-2010 at 11:13 AM.
I think you can claim this loss on your taxes if he itemizes.. I think high dollar thefts are deductable under causality losses, much like if your house takes 5k damage in a storm and insurance only gives you 2k, you can deduct the 3k difference.

HOWEVER, I think there is formula with your income involved, so he might not benefit from this.

I am not a professional, I am just trying to remember what I have read.
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emelvee
09-03-2010 at 11:24 AM.
09-03-2010 at 11:24 AM.
Jon Corzine wouldn't have done this to your friend.

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Schooby
09-03-2010 at 11:45 AM.
09-03-2010 at 11:45 AM.
That sucks for your friend.

Cities are in such financial trouble they are collecting money any way they can.

I think it was Royal Oak MI where they decided anyone that got into a car accident there would now have to pay for the clean up and emergency responders time.
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zzyzzx
09-03-2010 at 12:16 PM.
09-03-2010 at 12:16 PM.
Can't they just let the city keep the car and sell it at auction? Isn't that how it normally works when you don't pay the impond fee? Seems like if they do nothing the problem solves itself.

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09-03-2010 at 12:16 PM.
09-03-2010 at 12:16 PM.
He should have jumped into the front seat naked.
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veritablequandary
09-03-2010 at 12:18 PM.
09-03-2010 at 12:18 PM.
Quote from zzyzzx :
Can't they just let the city keep the car and sell it at auction? Isn't that how it normally works when you don't pay the impond fee? Seems like if they do nothing the problem solves itself.
They told him they will put points on his driver's license if he doesn't pay the fees and take the car.
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J03
09-03-2010 at 12:21 PM.
09-03-2010 at 12:21 PM.
Quote from DealCrazy :
Since your "friend" already knew the car was not worth the insurance, he should not complain now. I feel bad about the person who stole the car. Imagine how desperate he must have been to steal a beaten up Honda Civic Rofl2
I guess you don't understand why people steal cars. You've been watching too many movies like 'gone in 60 seconds'.

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The popular 1995 Honda Civic continues to be the top pick among thieves, holding onto that position for the 2007 calendar year. The most recent NICB report listed the 1991 Honda Accord as the second-most-stolen vehicle, followed by the 1989 Toyota Camry. In fourth position, the 1997 Ford F-150 was the highest-listed pickup truck as well as the most stolen domestic-branded vehicle.
See a trend here? Value of parts, not value of the car itself. In 2007 the number one stolen car was a 12 year old Honda, followed by a 16 year old Honda, followed by an 18 year old Toyota.
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09-03-2010 at 12:22 PM.
09-03-2010 at 12:22 PM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
They told him they will put points on his driver's license if he doesn't pay the fees and take the car.
Put points on his license for what? I wouldn't believe that unless they could prove it.

I'm also assuming they they filed a police report when the car was stolen.
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09-03-2010 at 12:26 PM.
09-03-2010 at 12:26 PM.
Quote from J03 :
I guess you don't understand why people steal cars. You've been watching too many movies like 'gone in 60 seconds'.



See a trend here? Value of parts, not value of the car itself. In 2007 the number one stolen car was a 12 year old Honda, followed by a 16 year old Honda, followed by an 18 year old Toyota.
Iagree The thieves took stuff like door handles, the sunroof (?), cosmetic stuff. It may still run actually. My buddy is thinking about trying to fix it back up.
Quote from zzyzzx :
Put points on his license for what? I wouldn't believe that unless they could prove it.

I'm also assuming they they filed a police report when the car was stolen.
Dontknow What are you going to say at that point? "I dare you?" He did file a police report.
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Iaaaiws
09-03-2010 at 12:58 PM.
09-03-2010 at 12:58 PM.
Eh, I feel bad for him but then again I don't care to see tax dollars go to help someone who could have covered the loss with insurance but already pocketed the savings from not doing that.
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09-03-2010 at 01:13 PM.
09-03-2010 at 01:13 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
Eh, I feel bad for him but then again I don't care to see tax dollars go to help someone who could have covered the loss with insurance but already pocketed the savings from not doing that.
Seeing as how his taxes already (supposedly) paid for the cops, the detectives, the prosecutors, etc. I'd say forcing him to pay for the recovery of a now-useless vehicle is just rubbing salt in the wound. Dontknow
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Iaaaiws
09-03-2010 at 01:18 PM.
09-03-2010 at 01:18 PM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
Seeing as how his taxes already (supposedly) paid for the cops, the detectives, the prosecutors, etc. I'd say forcing him to pay for the recovery of a now-useless vehicle is just rubbing salt in the wound. Dontknow
I think they could make an exception for the impound fees and such, but if a private towing company was used they need to be paid by somebody, and other taxpayers just don't seem to be the correct choice. The amount he saved and pocketed by not purchasing the insurance has to be considered in this case as well. When you subtract that amount from what he has to pay now the ultimate outcome probably doesn't seem so bad.
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